My PC is having some very strange issues and I am not sure what the exact problem is. A couple months back I noticed that the mouse would sometimes lag and or audio drop while doing basic tasks. I started getting back into gaming with FFXIV and noticed right away that it would refuse to run in DX11 mode without constantly crashing within minutes or flat out refusing to start. I switched it to DX9 mode and it ran longer without issues, but crashed all the same. So I tried other games and all had the same issues. I reinstalled drivers, even wiped my pc clean yesterday and reinstalled windows 10; thinking that perhaps it was a windows issue. But the problem remains, very hard crashes(black screens, frozen screens with audio, frozen screens without audio) but through these past two months, I have NEVER had a single bluescreen. I have checked each and every time after these crashes or slowdowns in the even viewer and found zero anomalies or errors reported by windows. I even took my computer apart yesterday, cleaned each and every single component, applied new thermal paste, new bios battery, everything. And the problem persists, to top it off; windows/bios are saying I have 8GB of memory, when I have 16 installed. I tested the memory using memtest overnight and all sticks passed with no issues either. I'm about to lose my mind.
I removed memory sticks, removed the Nvidia GPU and used the onboard graphics, reinstalled every driver known to man, reinstalled a clean copy of windows, gutted the pc and cleaned everything, applied new paste, checked the PSU, EVERYTHING. Even just being on the desktop, I get lag. Can anyone help me please? Please find attached the results of my monitoring programs.
Videocard would be my first guess as reason for freezes (my HD7770 caused so many freezes with corrupted screen but only few times it was a BSOD). You did check event log, right? Also, my motherboard has 3 out of 6 SATA ports broken somehow. Maybe it's because it got 40V through LPT port two years ago but it did freeze my PC even though the drives were fine.
Isaiah Gomez
So, try all SATA ports. nb4 M2
Luis Harris
That's what I went to from day one, but the GPU has not given any issues except being loud at times when under heavy load for games. I didn't clean the GPU fan though when I cleaned everything else as it looks fine. And yes, I did check the even logs and found there were no errors or logs of any kind. Even with this fresh install I'm currently running. The graphical errors, audio/video slow-down happen when using the cpu's integrated graphics or the GTX 770. I did change sata ports as well last night when I reinstalled windows. I got this message then and again when I reset just now.
I would be fine saying it's the GPU and throwing it in the garbage, but the memory errors and the weird thunderbolt message from the bios combined that this happens with the integrated graphics(slow-downs, not freezes), makes me think it's something else.
Gabriel Butler
Have you started getting these issues out of nowhere?
Ryan Nguyen
About two months ago. I mainly used my system for light browsing during that time period as I wasn't into gaming much. I noticed slight hiccups here and there, youtube videos freezing briefly/slowing down and same with the mouse. As soon as I started playing games again though; the severity of the issues became apparent and now I'm even getting bios/memory issues.
Ryder Nelson
I meant if your PC was running fine until two months ago. If the issues started overnight, it's likely hardware related. You said you used onboard graphics and still had issues, so the GPU should be fine. The most likely culprit could be the mobo failing since it has issues detecting the ram sticks. Get a new one from amazon, test it and if the issues persist return it.
Nathan Roberts
That's what I was afraid of(the motherboard or memory controller failing) fml. Is that the only logical way forward? I know there's some connection between pci-express and the thunderbolt on the board; so I've been wondering if the pci-e slot itself may be the culprit, or one of many. I guess the result is the same though, dying board.
Is there any way to test the board without purchasing another one? I don't have any money at all right now.
Henry Wood
I was having similar problems with my 2500k. Reinstall of windows didn't fix it. Changing to onboard graphics in the fresh install didn't fix it. Just using 2 of my 4 sticks, and then the other 2, didn't fix it.
All I can figure was the chip was regrading and using backup routing. Or something was going bad on the board. Dunno. After changing board/memory/RAM, it was fine.
Bentley Turner
I'm running a 4670k! Interesting to see that you had similar issues as well. Was your board an Asus?
Jack Cook
>I removed memory sticks, removed the Nvidia GPU and used the onboard graphics, reinstalled every driver known to man, reinstalled a clean copy of windows, gutted the pc and cleaned everything, applied new paste, checked the PSU, EVERYTHING. Even just being on the desktop, I get lag. Can anyone help me please? Please find attached the results of my monitoring programs. >Is there any way to test the board without purchasing another one? I don't have any money at all right now. it's the only thing besides the CPU and PSU you haven't tested yet You could make an Windows OTG flash drive and unplug the SATA hdd to see if it helps any
Angel Lee
Jow Forums is not /v/'s tech support, go fuck yourself
Jordan Garcia
Nope, Gigabyte.
Oliver Barnes
Ugh. Well what do you think, just live with this and forget gaming for now; save money and build a new pc with AMD parts; or buy a used z87 chipset board? I have 16GB of DDR3 memory that I really don't want to just throw away. But a part of me is just sick of these issues and I'm really thinking it's the PCI-E slot/controller that's causing these issues. I think I'm going to try MSI next if it's the board, tired of Asus and half their drivers/utilities not working or being updated.
Well the 4670k is getting old. I just went from 4690k to ryzen 2600 and the difference is unreal. Building an AMD rig is not expensive either. You can find used ryzens for really cheap, DDR4 prices have lowered a lot and you can recycle your PSU and hard drives from your current PC.
Easton Mitchell
Well I left it running after removing the gpu and switching to the integrated graphics and this is what it's saying as of now:
Now it's my network driver/hdd? I don't even know. I think the board might just be dying or something, it's the only logical conclusion. I can't have that many components failing all at once.
HDD or mobo. Shit's fucked, this is not normal. Just to be certain boot some linux live cd.
Jackson Reyes
Don't listen to that retard, I had storport issues and it was just the crucial software fucking with it. If it were the HDD the SMART would've warned you.
Isaac Peterson
I think I'll just do that then. I'm tired of troubleshooting this thing and spending so much time on it. I'll retire this pc and use it as a backup PC/htpc or something. It can't be used for intensive stuff anymore.
Thank you all for trying to help me, I appreciate it.
Aaron Ortiz
you faggit. Isolate problems. 1: test memory. use memtest86+ on your old computer. Run for 24 hours+ 2: Check drive SMART status. Crystal disk info works well 3: Disconnect your computers hard drives and use another drive, load a clean copy of your operating system, updates,. etc. and see if you have the same problem.
Ryan Smith
Everything seems to be pointing to the motherboard as the culprit. From the GPU, to the thunderbolt, to the memory to the storage; something is wrong with the base of the build itself. That everything would just start dying at once is illogical. I purchased the parts in 2013 and it's only been 6 years. Never buying Asus again.
Parker Baker
Is your computer properly grounded?
Jayden Brooks
I did do all those things. I also ran the intel SSD toolkit and it said the drive was perfectly fine. Memtest passed all the memory sticks, yet the system will not boot at times with all of them in, or it'll register only 2/4 or 1/4 or 4/4. It's always a gamble how much memory I have when booting up. Now I'm getting thunderbolt errors, drive errors, network errors? I'm not buying it.
Dominic Harris
No it's not. I use a glass open air case for it. But I've also used it for years and never had any issues. The PC never moves, nothing new has been added to it or removed either.
>forget gaming for now Suffer with me faggot, I'm on an HD3870 because I sold my i7-2600K PC for a 3700X and ran out of cash for a GPU. I don't think there's any point in saving a quad-core i5 when you can have a 6c12t CPU for $130 brand new on newegg. >I have 16GB of DDR3 memory that I really don't want to just throw away. sell it then, it should sell for a decent price if it's not some 1333MHz trash.
Anthony Hernandez
go to Jow Forums
Jace Wright
lmao, didn't you budget the prices before you sold everything? How did you come up short? And yeah, school starts for me soon here so no gaming isn't a bad thing.
Zachary Rivera
I did, I dug out the HD3870 way ahead of time to check if it's still alive and planned to get a ~$400 Navi before they even came out, but the reference coolers turned out to be shit so I allocated more of the budget to CPU and RAM and decided to buy Navi when it comes out with a non-shit cooler. What I didn't account for is how painful living with a reference HD3870 is.
