/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>Assemble a part list
pcpartpicker.com/
>How to assemble a PC
youtube.com/watch?&v=IhX0fOUYd8Q

Want help?
>State budget & CURRENCY
>Post at least some attempt at a parts list
>List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)

CPUs based on current pricing
>Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on most mobos with the right BIOS)
>R3 2200G - Minimum 30-60fps gaming. The stronger 3400G sells for $150. (R3K APUs OCs better than R2K)
>R5 2600 - 60fps+ gaming CPU with great value
>R5 3600 - Great gaming CPU
>R7 3700X - Overkill gaming CPU
>R7 1700X - Budget production
>R9 3900X - Professional tasks

RAM
>Do not use a single DIMM. 2 sticks for a typical dual channel CPU
>CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 3200CL16 or Micron E-die ("AES" in P/N) recommended
>AMD B & X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP
>B-die is EOL, stock is limited

GPUs based on current pricing
1080p
>RX 570/580 8GB - Can be found on sale/used for cheap. Look for 570s which are >1240MHz boost
>(GTX 1660TI @ ~$230/Vega56 @ ~$270) - higher fps / more demanding games
>RX 5700 - higher FPS
1440p
>RX 5700 - standard, 75-100FPS+
>RX 5700XT - higher fps
2160p (4K)
>RTX 2070S OC - budget option. Turing scales better into 4K than Navi does. OR upscale from lower resolution with RIS
>2080Ti - best for 4K but expensive

>Navi AIB models come within a week. 5700 non-XT blower is alright, due to low power.

General
>Yes, adaptive sync (free/g/sync) is important for gaming
>NVMe isn't better than SATA SSD for gaming
>Don't use Speccy
>Beware sites which rank CPUs by arbitrary, obfuscated scores (eg userbenchmark, passmark, cpuboss)
>Beware and report the permaban evading Jow Forums spammer who posts fake benchmarks
>AM4 VRMs + Monitors + SSD Guide under "more"

more rentry.co/pcbg-more

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pcpartpicker.com/list/p9TsyX
samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/gaming/27--chg70-gaming-monitor-with-quantum-dot-lc27hg70qqnxza/#specs
hackaday.com/2018/08/13/modern-pc-crammed-into-an-original-xbox/
twitter.com/NSFWRedditImage

Planning on buying dual 27 inch monitors soon. Will 1080p be ok or is 1440p really the minimum for that size?

>Why yes, i treat every place like home

24 1080
27 1440

just got a noctua nh u12a for 75 dollars
used - very good

I'm a poorfag that's gonna buy a 2200G, one I might upgrade to a 3600 later and buy an actual graphics card. The X470/570 range is too expensive for me, so which B450 motherboard should I go for? No matter where I look, there is always some kind of issue. Gigabyte B450s are apparently hotter than an oven, ASUS is overpriced for its features, MSI apparently has worse audio than others and I'm not fond of their DUDE GAMER LMAO thing, and I don't know enough about ASrock mobos. I plan to overclock conservatively, I don't plan on using anything bigger than the stock cooler.

thanks in advance Jow Forums

Consider Corsair PSUs

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DDR4 RAM

2400mhz CL14 or 2666mhz CL15?

whats the deal with ryzens dying easy as fuck?
is this a incel psyop?
com/r/Amd/comments/cojus9/3900x_bit_the_dust_goodnight_sweet_prince/

>inb4 leddit

i'll buy a TX650M. Everywhere on the internet loves that shit, so i hope i dont fuck up.
3200 cl16

>2200G
a board that has hdmi/dp outputs on the board? b450 strix or something along those lines if its decently priced

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both are garbage tier
3000c15 or 3200c16 ballistix

CPUs die when retards dont know how to overclock cpus, must be a newbie playing with the voltages of his cpu, Its impossible that a cpu could die of natural cause with a month old.

The high voltages kill them early

how long do i have to lurk to understand

I would get a RM or a Seasonic Focus+ Gold instead as they are around the same price

Oh I guess shit is super expensive in your country.
If the Vega56 is within 10% of the cost of a 1660, then yeah I'd say go ahead and buy the blower card. Just be prepared for maybe needing to modify the cooler to replace it with better thermal paste, thermal tape, and stuff like that.

The reviewers for the MSI airboost v56 aren't actually THAT bad, but maybe people are used to loud reference cards idk.
It's also $260 US right now, plus that $30 game subscription, which is eh something.

fuck dude just get the 2400G it's only $120. It can drive a decently powerful GPU fine. The 2200G is going to stutter once you pair it with a decent GPU, forcing you to upgrade CPU at the same time.
>which b450 board
Steel Legend, TUF PRO(NOT the PLUS), Mortar, Tomahawk.

Those are basically the same. If same price, the later. I would imagine they're also the same price as Ballistic Sport LT, so wtf?

CPUs die sometimes. I've heard of some dying from that CCX overclock hack, but doesn't look like OP did that as it's not mentioned.

ok thanks, but is there some kind of problem with corsair im not aware of? i can get it for 85 euros, but if i can get seasonic for the same price i'll get it.

>overclock
cpus running stock tho

>Its impossible that a cpu could die of natural cause with a month old.
what is manufacturing defects. so no

thats not how it works though

You have to go see it in person. I like my 1080p 27" monitor but 1440p is great too but seeing the resolution difference is best dine in person. There's a lot of decent/good 1440p 144Hz TN monitors like the Dell 2719 something. Forgot the exact name but freesync version of the monitor is more newer and recent then the g-sync one.

Of course your current setup also factors into this.

I booted a 4670k without cpu heatsink because I didn't want to add another paste. Reached 100c on desktop but it didnt shutdown, pc was freezing hard anyway. Did a kill the cpu? I left it open for 30 sec max

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No, the TX series is fine
The RM series and Seasonic's focus+ series are just slightly better for slightly more money (like $5-10 more)

In Europe everything is expensive as fuck sadly my man.

Current setup is a 580, Ryzen 2600 and 16gb of ram using a 1080p TV as a monitor. Of course these specs would change over the new few years. I can't think of anywhere in the UK where I would even go to see monitors and the difference

1440p 144hz ips (or 240hz 1440p TN) monitors are expensive so unless you want to go for a monitor and not change at all for several years that option should be kept in mind when making a choice.

Nice I can get the seasonic for 94€ sweet.

>fuck dude just get the 2400G it's only $120.
in US, i imagine it. however, the 2400G is closer to 200$ where i live

the ryzen 3700x has a beautiful stock cooler
but its probably bottlenecking my 1080 tis capabilities, isnt it?

No unless you play at 720p.

So is it actually 1ms IPS panel or are we getting jewed?

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The latter but it's a good monitor anyway.

>Seasonic Focus+ Gold

The RMX is actually more quiet though vs the Focus Gold according to cybenetics.com.

15.08 DB(A) compared to the 30-34 DB(A)

>1ms
more like 8ms real life

if u want a fast panel just get a 240hz tn 1440p or 1080p
or get ips jewed

Optiplex 990

What's the difference between the nitro 590 special edition and the nitro gold version? The specs look the same so is it just the color that that's different?

It's 1ms in some turbo mode that makes all the text look like shit.

I figured you guys would know - what appleshit to get purely for xcode and ios development? 2014 mac mini or something? Already built a pc

How's this?
pcpartpicker.com/list/p9TsyX

Wait for aftermarket 5700XT

I'm looking for 27 inch 144hz 10-bit monitor with a maximum budget of ~450 euro. This is the best thing I could find, is there anything better than this for my price range?

samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/gaming/27--chg70-gaming-monitor-with-quantum-dot-lc27hg70qqnxza/#specs

How long? I wanna build this shit by the end of August.

August 16th or something like that. not 100% sure.

literally next week

5800 seems to be what to wait for

Whats the point of 2.5Gbe really? If you’re going through the trouble of buying adapters and switches wouldnt anyone go 10Gbe?

if your budget goes up to 600-650 yes

bump for this

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B550 rumored to be Q1 2020
B450 is hit and miss with 3000 series

what is AMD's game plan?

get a max msi mobo

That is some based ass shit

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They are shit
They have the same defective bios

How come? They have a bigger memory chip now.

How are we supposed to tell idiot. Boot it up and see if it works. My sisters laptop (according to the sensor) reached temperatures above 100 degrees and it still works.

Your Ryzen can do this, can't it?

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Is he playing Max Payne?

Almost done purchasing my new build.
R7 3700X
Radeon 5700XT
MSI B450 pro carbon ac
G.skill tridentZ 2x8 3200 CL16
Focus Power Gold Full Modular 750 PSU
Samsung 860 QVO 1TB
Fractal Design Meshify C - TG
Noctua nh-d15 see am4
Arctic 140mm silent case fans

I have everything except the heatsink, case, case fans, CPU and obviously GPU (waiting on AIB in-depth breakdowns)

I realize the heatsink may be Overkill but I don't know if any other air cooler options that match that level of performance and quiet according to extensive research. Is there a sleeper on missing it on?
Also have we had any more 5700XT fan models leaked?

CALLING ALL X570 AORUS MASTER/ULTRA USERS:

Can this grill be easily removed for access to the fan in case it gets dusty/breaks?

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No worries user. I tested it again with heatsink it works. Intel really does good cpu lol, imagine booting an amd cpu without heatsink

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Very precise needs I have for a sleeper build

>Smallest AM4 board or Intel with iGPU Good as Vega 8

>Compatible with a 200GE, 2400G or 3400G preferably right off the bat, no BIOS update first

>Laptop DDR4 RAM 2666MHz minimum

>16GB Minimum

>1 PCIE 16X port

>External power supply, DC input

>Must fit in a 2001 Xbox shell (That's why I need external PSU)

Bonus: Some way to use an extension and adapter to use my RX 580 externally without huge performance loss

Will be used mostly for Gamecube and Dreamcast emulation in 1080p to 4K, external GPU for some games if I want to
(I don't need to reinstall drivers, right?)

based nigga

dang, that's a based af setup. I'm curious about the battery setup. Dude probably has a car battery hooked up to an inverter in that bag. I wonder what kind of running time this guy gets with that kind of setup. Probably runs the whole train line from both ends and is addicted to /v/ideo games

Mafia 2 lad.

Nice pizza

I'd stick with 1080p with your setup. Since in your location you don't have stores to check in person I'd stick with a 24 inch just to be safe.

I have a 1080ti with a year of microcenter warranty on it, does it seem like the 5800 is coming soon? Hoping it drops 2080 ti prices

Bump this

why the fuck does my nitro+ 580 clock to 1400mhz for a game that runs fine at 60fps at 1200mhz? Isn't this what the different power states are for?

you seem to underestimate the amount of custom work you are going to have to do.
You're better off gutting a small laptop and putting the components in.
You should go to the forums of people who are dedicated to doing this sort of tomfoolery

hackaday.com/2018/08/13/modern-pc-crammed-into-an-original-xbox/

yes just get 10Gbe instead

I don't know why people spend so much extra money and destroy their thermals just for the same of 'LOL IT XBOX!!!!'

For a while the price was justifiable if you wanted quick peer to peer network however 10gbe adapters are getting cheap on ebay making them redundant.

Will AMD Athlon 200GE bottleneck my Nvidia RTX 2080Ti The Way It's Meant To Be Played™?

Amazing but perfectly understandable if you think it's expensive or would rather opt for other 1440p 144Hz monitors.

Nope, you're are fine.

2060 super or 5700xt for 1080p high frames linux gaming?
my 1060 6gb is starting to chug on some things and want to upgrade it

>linux gaming
you just answered your own question
5700 XT

does it really make that much of a difference driver wise?

>Go to bios
>3700x looks like it's running at high voltage
>runs at 50c in menu
Is it always running this high during boot or is it a bios thing?

>driver wise
Never mind, amd drivers are dogshit

so go nvidia? I just want the least headache method. I am a fanboy of neither. just want better frames

50c on idle is totally normal

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Real question why is AMD marketing so slimy now?

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When I'm out of bios it idles at 35c in ryzen master. Also it's summer so I'm impressed with the stock cooler performance

If you're willing to go used, 1080s are going for ~$320 on eBay, that's pretty equivalent to 2060 Super.

I'd still wait for 5700 aib though, that should push prices down across the board.

Why waste a Xbox shell? I will use it mostly to play console games with a controller anyway

Use the default drivers, works way better
t. RX 580 user w/ Ubuntu

Go nvidia if you want plug and play
Go amd if you want to wait a year for a proper driver on a new card

They will die if their latest products dont succeed.

if you dont monitor it, its low :)

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>tfw you know exactly what parts and build you would do due to extensive research
>but you are poor

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which aib amd partners are trustworthy? ive heard good things from sapphire & powercolor

I know exactly how you feel

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How is QLC, nvme for gaming?

both have their flaws and all the shilling you heard is just that, shilling.
Do not buy into brands and marketing. For god sake.

>NYC
>Spanish signs
why

holy fuck lmao.
Alright then, wahtever is cheap.

Even the fastest TN isn't truly 1ms, you retards.
It's a good monitor.

Pretty much all the brands except Gigabyte are capable of making a really good card. They just often don't.
Sapphire, XFX, ASUS, etc, have made great high end cards... but also problematic ones.

Powercolor is the one I'd buy if I had to do so blind without reviews, as their high end cards are always really good. Never seen coil whine or thermal issues from them. But I suppose this time might be the time they fuck up in 6 years. I guess I can't think of an MSI high end card that's had issues either, but they also sometimes don't even make high end ones for certain models.

consult the manual.