Hey guys, i'm a 19 year old fuckwad who doesn't know what he wants in this life yet. All i know is that i love the idea of programming. Be it games, backend stuff or whatever. I would just like to see myself progress. Anytime i started to learn any programming language, the closest i got to anything palpable was a fucking GUI with buttons that didn't do shit. If i come up with an idea, welp, out of luck there buddy, turns out you are way to inexperienced to apply it.
Sorry for the long ass read, so, all i want to know, is what language should i stick with and learn, if i my dream jobs are in pentesting, data analysis or even financial stuff (i guess that goes into data analysis).
again, sorry for the rant > inb4 you're too old to start
you are too old to start after certain age your brain doesn't function as good as it used to especially when it comes to different ways of thinking (something required in programming) if you haven't started around age of 15 I have bad news for you son
just try something else, art, business, whatever
Evan Bell
apply yourself
Evan Flores
>tfw the majority of senior developers in your country didn't even have acces to pcs at that age
There are jobs for literal women there. You can't be dumber than a broad.
Connor Taylor
are they fucking 90 or do you live in africa?
Robert Hernandez
Yeah, i've been oscilating between choosing python and C#. While i find python really neat, how could i actually see something sprout from it. Are there challenges or something for beginners ?
Nathan James
Ex-soviet/communist and by sprout i mean, see something happen. (i know it's vague but like remember the first time you wrote some text in an html page and it appeared on screen ? i noticed that if i don't have that "oh, i did something" feeling, i get frustrated)
Benjamin Rodriguez
Love the idea of programming? Imagine being this much of a pussy. What is holding you back from actually sitting on your ass and study this shit? It's not like "I love the idea of getting to the top of Mount Everest" where is virtually impossible for normal folk to do it. Just fucking look up for resources and do it. Lucky for you, I'll fucking spoonfeed you the resource that helped me get a job: theodinproject.com Now quit being a whiny bitch and get to fucking WORK. You don't even need to make your stuff pretty, just functional is enough. Power through this course and you will land a job.
In ctf there are challenges you need to solve that range from reverse engineering to cryptography and binary exploitation. Trust me it really helps to solve them
Dylan Sanchez
Idiot.
James Jenkins
I'm pretty well paid and started working seriously in university. And that with many failed years, borderline a dropout. He can still do it.
OP, start programming shit and put it on GitHub. Join Discord servers, and ask for potential good projects+ask for support in case shit hits the fan. Wait for udemy offers (usually 10-12 euros), they come once every 1-3 days. Work these projects, put them on GitHub. Write every shitty sub-framework/sub-concept known in your CV. Try to find some low-end job that can propel you up. Avoid tester jobs like the plague. Try being a frontend dev first, and start from there. Learn JS, React and PHP or Python for backend. Learn some MariaDB or MySQL and SQLite. After you get a job, aim for higher stuff. There you go, you aren't going to get any better advice here on Jow Forums, desu. So write it down. Ignore 99% of the spergs here with distrowars, mechanical keyboards and processor wars, and just do your programming work.
Brandon Ross
Common Lisp
Nathan Carter
Literally this, stop being a cuck and just learn the shit you want, if you can't learn it then you are not passionate enough for programming.
Landon Wood
Thanks a lot, and yeah i realise i'm a pathetic human failure, but at this point, you can't bring me down or insult me more than i did over time. So thanks again for the input, will check that out. At some point i tried it out, but i don't think i have the eye for it. Like I put out some websites that looked like shit, but worked. But who tf wants a website that looks like shit. Fuck, some people sacrifice functionality over looks, so i'm fucked in that department. Maybe backend would be ok for me ? idk
Angel Morales
Figure out a good way to kill yourself
Sebastian Sullivan
Obviously its gonna look like shit in the first few times, just try to improve each time and try new methods
Connor Foster
Didn't think i'd find you here, Me.
Cameron Mitchell
>All i know is that i love the idea of programming Everyone "loves the idea" of something, we all have our dreams and either you will chase them with all that you got or you give up. But the hardest thing to accept is that in the end it wouldn't have mattered anyway, achieving your desires and seeing the idea you love crushed under the weight of reality is just as awful as having failed.
If you actually want to do it,choose one language and one small sized project and try your best to make it happen.
As if you needed to be particularly smart to program... This isn't research mathematics.
William Gray
>if i my dream jobs are in pentesting, data analysis or even financial stuff Nobody will care much about your favourite language.
Go finish your degree at a reputable university, that's what will get you hired.
Evan Flores
You might like sysadmin it doesn't really require a lot of problem solving so you wont be at a disadvantage in that respect due to your age.
Kevin Reed
The duality of man
Andrew Scott
OH yeah, i would love it. But who hires a 19 yr old sysadmin with no real-world experience ? pretty-much no one
> jump start course --- 30% of my monthly rent. Thanks, i know i need structure. But i can't afford that platform.
William Richardson
>html >ruby DILATE
Kevin Gray
Theres a difference between loving the idea and actually liking doing it.
You're over the big hurdle by knowing that.
Now find all the things you are interested in at all, and try them. Once you gain some competence, you can develop a "why" that will get you through what you need to do no matter how smart you are. (Which is to say, if you're too dumb to, say, program you won't enjoy it as much as something you're at least remotely good at.
Problem with all of that is that it requires habit-forming first and foremost. So, either figure out a way to force yourself to militantly remain disciplined, or if you're like me, you restructure everything around you, including technology to incentivise yourself to do whatever.
A shorter way to say the above is, you need intrinsic incentive/motivation. Dreaming about programming is extrinsic, as you are enjoying the idea of the potential benefits of being one. Not enjoying the activity itself.
Find what your dumbass monkey brain actually likes first.
Ryder Roberts
Same user here.
If you wanna do low level game dev check out Handmade Hero.
Free (or 15 bucks if you want the source code)
Gabriel James
Haha, felt motivated until that last sentence. Thanks for the input, while i don't consider myself a genius, I don't think i'm THAT stupid. I'm currently working 12h a day, everyday of the week, so i can afford to live on my own. So i have to squeeze some programming in my office schedule when i ahve free time. Zero social life, no pc at home, i just try to get by and develop.
Wyatt Stewart
Make games user
Joshua Reed
Is the project complete? Been a long time since I checked it
Nathan James
Yep, he wants to learn a "real programming language™" or profit? there's a big difference
Jaxson Brooks
I would happily live on 750$ a month. 250$ is the rent, and so on. So as far as profit goes, i don't really care, i just want to work in this field, but first, learn.
Liam Long
Nah, Casey is being slow as hell. But right now he has the asset streaming system finished, so they can focus on improving the visuals of the game.
Really I would say a year more is all that would be needed to finish, but as it is a research/educational project, he will probably take all the time here and there to explain extra stuff like his overview of the X86 processor recently. (Which was really good.) So I'm gonna guess 2 years if the plan doesn't change.
Luis Nelson
>Anytime i started to learn any programming language dont do that learn liner algebra and C or python if you dont want to overkill it on your first sprint
Nathan Young
You're making money working at 19. That's a start you shouldn't feel shit about.
From here on, it looks like you actually do have the habits to put *some* hour count into a thing. You made it sound like you were sitting home alone. You gotta stop worrying user, you're currently stable, just take care of the human animal (don't let your life be defined ONLY by that job.) and you'll be fine.
