Sept 7 : Ryzen 3950X
Oct 7 : Navi 14 - RX 5600 (XT)
Nov 7 : Threadripper 3000, X599 chipset
Dec 7 : Renoir (Mobile Zen2 + Vega APU), mobile discrete Navi GPUs. Actual products at CES 2020
Sept : Comet Lake-U (up to 6 cores, 15W)
Oct : Cascade Lake-X
Nov : i9-9900KS
Dec : Comet Lake-H (up to 10 cores, "45W")
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>Ryzen 3950X
Might sneak in X590 chipset too
>Navi 14
RX 5600 XT is 24CU, 5600 is probably 20CU. Expect 1660Ti/1660 tier performance
>Threadripper
Will they go with the full monty 64-core? Do they need to?
>Renoir
Monolithic or chiplet? I'd go with monolithic 8-core + 14CU
>Cascade Lake-X
Bring in 28-core XCC die with LGA3647 too?
We will also get Ryzen 3900 (12c, 3.1GHz base, 4.2GHz boost, 65W? TDP), Picasso Ryzen 3550U (4c, 9CU) and 3750U (4c, 10CU)
I really don't get the point of those new Picasso models, unless Renoir is late.
What I hope is that Renoir is 8 core and the oems asked for some chips with higher base frequency because of idiotic consumers.
>Mobile Zen2 + Vega APU
why not Navi. i don't get it
That's a typo, it's Navi.
any 'info' on big Navi card or will AMD only give us midrange RDNA1 cards and hold their cards for RDNA2?
Typo for the 3750U. I believe it's 11CU
To look good (better) against Ice Lake's GPU?
No, it's Vega. Development started long ago, possibly on GloFo 7nm, and Navi would have taken too much time to port to low power.
Also, without HBM or ddr5 Navi would have at most something like ~20% performance increase over small Vega at 7nm.
No. It has been Vega since April. GFX9 = Vega. Navi = GFX10
fuck vega man. not that i need a laptop anytime soon but using an old ass gpu just sucks
They definitely have a 64cu card in the works, and since they are already talking about it, it's likely a RDNA1 gpu
Where's B550 chipset and Zen 3?
Vega at low voltage and low cu count is extremely efficient though. Especially at 7nm, which is something we still have not seen. Also, it gives more compute power compared to Navi.
Ye, I would prefer the latest technology for the apus, but at this point they can't even provide decent fps at fhd low, so why bother with integrated crap unless you need a 13' laptop?
so no competition with the 2080ti, whatever.
just give me a 5700XT THICC boy for 300€, thanks
>3950x
Was going to upgrade to that but in my shithole country I cant even get 3900x yet
For AMD, they probably don't really *need* Navi in mobile APUs, since they'd rather sell a discrete Navi card if you need GTX 1050 level performance in a laptop
Q1 2020 for B550 release, summer for Zen 3
>summer for Zen 3
so we..just™wait™...again..
>B550
Probably next year since there has been no signs of it at all. Surely they'd target the OEM product cycles in Q2 and Q4. Might also be released with desktop APUs. Though I don't really see the point of B550 when X470 and B450 exist.
>Zen3
Surely at least a year from Zen2, add another quarter so October 2020?
Maybe you, but I'm going to buy a Renoir laptop and likely doing a 3700x build once the price falls.
Oct 7 : Navi 14 - RX 5600 (XT)
I CANT FUCKING WAIT IF THIS SHIT IS REAL. I sold off my god damn Vega 64 thinking a GTX 770 would solve all my gaming needs but holy fuck is this the worst deal of my life.
>sell Vega64, bought GTX770
user, go see a doctor, you appear to have serious brain damage.
what'll be the PCI-power 560/570 equivalent?
anything below 20 CU's should be ~75W
>sold mercedes
>bought tricycle
I want to laugh at you, but it's like shooting fish in a barrel - with a death star.
the pic contains the only valid information
Forgot to add Comet Lake-Y. Not sure when, but definitely later than Comet Lake-U. Pic related is how 10th Gen Comet Lake-U stacks up versus 8th Gen Whiskey Lake-U
>sold vega64
>bought gtx 770
are you retarded?
Jesus christ it's another fucking rebrand
Also, that 6 core has a base frequency 64% lower then the 4 core.
For 50% more cores.
What the actual fuck.
With further hardware mitigation against vulnerabilities :^) . Most of the OEMs aren't even bothering to refresh their chassis. It's a straight CPU swap on the current laptops
It will spend most of its time on boost anyways, at TDP that's much higher than 15W. Compared to 10nm Ice Lake it's not that bad heh
>I sold off my god damn Vega 64 thinking a GTX 770 would solve all my gaming needs
Why are people giving up on Vega? It's not even close to being obsolete. I'll be using mine for years.
>but holy fuck is this the worst deal of my life.
GTX 770 now there's an obsolete GPU.
Zen 2 only came out last month, you fucking retard. Why were you expecting Zen 3 any earlier than mid-2020?
to be fair it could come a little earlier than that, just not before february
>Sept : Comet Lake-U (up to 6 cores, 15W)
>Oct : Cascade Lake-X
>Nov : i9-9900KS
>Dec : Comet Lake-H (up to 10 cores, "45W")
THE ABSOLUTE STATE
do you guys prefer the
9900K(ills)S(elf) or the
9900F(ucked)?
hold on, if Intel is capable of producing 10nm for their low power CPUs, why can't they do it for their mainstream desktop CPUs?
Because desktop parts need high frequency. Notice how the i7-1068G7 only boosts to 4.1GHz. Intel's current 14nm++ can easily do 5.0GHz. Even Ice Lake's increased IPC can't overturn the frequency difference.
10nm is also supposedly not yielding enough and/or too expensive. Intel need 16 cores to compete with AMD on the desktop, so they rather produce them for laptops and servers at much higher margin, albeit at limited volume.
Which is why we won't get 10nm desktop parts until late 2021, and even then that's an optimistic guess
At this point it's likely they'll skip 10nm for desktop and use 7nm in 2022.
Next year they need all the capacity for server chips and in 2021 they would lose anyway to zen4 @5nm
I don't believe they will use a leading edge node for their desktop parts anytime soon. I think by 2022 10nm++ will be good enough for desktop, leaving 7nm to servers, laptops and graphics. Of course, whether Intel can follow their own roadmap is another matter.
>Zen4
I don't doubt it will be the one to beat, but I feel the switch to DDR5 might tempt people to wait and see what Intel has to offer
On the other side I'm waiting for ddr5 and zen 4 so I can upgrade my mobo and ram
>24CU
>not bus powered
Fuck your just wait bullshit, I'm getting a 5700 XT asap
any word on 5700xt nitro+?
give us a release date for big navi
Before or after 2020
that's not very accurate or are you saying Q3 '19 till Q1 '20?
Q3 2019 till q4 2020
>5700XT
>300€
what
There are at least two big Navi(s). One with 64CU, which should be called the RX 5800 series, which might or might not make it this year. Priority is on the other launches (small Navi, Renoir). The other one, the first on RDNA2 and 7nm+ EUV, is definitely next year (Q2?). Might have real time ray tracing. Might be named differently, presumably the start of 6000 series
Should just rename it the 9900KYS if you buy one
thanks pals
So the best 4gay video card is?
>i5 1030g4
>700mhz base clock
What the fuck are they thinking?
Yeah I've been waiting for 7nm APUs but back when the code suggesting it's gonna be Vega came out, I pretty much decided I'm gonna wait for RX 5500/5600 and if the wait is too long I'll just get good ol' 570
2080 ti
10nm sekrit sauce
holy crap that intel desktop line up LMAO
this is sad i really hope they dont collapse or else amd will start holding back progress for max profit
Yeah but price/performance wise. I’m not going to get jewed $1k for that card
Not optimistic about the pricing, though. I cannot see 5600 XT being less than $250, which means 5600 should be $200. Minus $20 for both if we're being generous. There's simply no beating the 570's price/perf ratio, plus you don't need to wait™ for decent AIBs, drivers etc
there are none
>There's simply no beating the 570's price/perf ratio, plus you don't need to wait™
Yeah but I really dislike power consumption of this thing, I want to put together a fairly quiet, small form factor system, and Poolaris Housefire Edition really doesn't shine there (unless it gets so hot it emits visible light). I'm not buying right now so I can wait, but if the 5500/5600 pricing is really shit or the wait turns out too long I may reconsider, maybe get a 570 and UV+UC it. We'll see. In extreme scenario will have to get a Novideo.
The 570 undervolted uses about the same power as a gtx 1650
Dont cuck yourself with underclocking
>Dont cuck yourself with underclocking
Yeah I know but it's not really guaranteed to be stable after UV, that's a silicon lottery thing, might end up having to UC it a little. Anyway if Little Navi delivers, won't have to worry about that.
Who cares?
2300X and 9100F already exist.
>no mention of the 5900
thats how I knew it wasnt real, but I appreciate the thread so thanks
2300x is oem only retard
makes you wonder if HBM has been a mobile first effort.
And?
Still the best price/performance.
>700MHz base frequency
What year is this?
>Oct 7 : Navi 14 - RX 5600 (XT)
oh no no no no
who cares about low end models when it's probably going to be 300 dollars
Lets have faith, they could price Polaris extemely well so why can't they have affordable low end Navi?
5700xt or used 1080ti
hint: TDP is measured at base frequency
It doesn't even have a price
24CU so roughly 1660Ti performance provided everything else scale the same. Why would it be more expensive than a $280 1660Ti? $300 is also too close to the 5600
>can't compete with SSDs
>gets left behind in fabs and cpus
>optane is a meme forever
Can't wait for TSMC and Samsung to bury Intel and their retarded garbage products for good.
Optane is cheaper than SLC while performing better and faster. It's only a matter of time before it completely replaces it in the enterprise.
>and faster
wot
and lasting longer* is what I wanted to say :^)
We are already starting to see the first benchmarks of Navi 14, you won't have to wait long.
notebookcheck.net/AMD-Navi-14-8-GB-variant-shows-up-on-CompuBench-viable-NVIDIA-GTX-1650-1660-competitor-with-up-to-50-better-OpenCL-performance-than-the-Radeon-RX-570.429956.0.html
The Laura of wet blankets enters the thread.
Instead of participating in thread discussion, this Laura just wants to point out that you're currently at the edge of the board and about to die. =^_^=
Hi Laura