/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>Assemble a part list
pcpartpicker.com/
>Example gaming builds and monitor suggestions; click on titles above parts lists to see notes
pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/
>How to assemble a PC
youtube.com/watch?&v=IhX0fOUYd8Q

Want help?
>State budget & CURRENCY
>Post at least some attempt at a parts list
>List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)

CPUs based on current pricing:
>Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on most mobos with the right BIOS)
>R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming
>R5 2600 - Good gaming CPU with great value
>R5 3600 - Great gaming CPU
>R7 3700X - Overkill gaming CPU
>R7 2700 - Budget video editing
>R9 3900X - Professional tasks

RAM:
>Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended
>CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3200CL16 is ideal
>AMD B and X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP

GPUs based on current pricing
1080p
>RX 570/580 8GB - Can be found on sale/used for cheap. Look for 570s which are >1240MHz boost
>(GTX 1660TI @ ~$230/Vega56 @ ~$270) - higher fps / more demanding games
>RX 5700 - higher FPS
1440p
>RX 5700 - standard, 75-100FPS+
>RX 5700XT - higher fps
2160p (4K)
>RTX 2070S OC - budget option. Turing scales better into 4K than Navi does. OR upscale from lower resolution with RIS
>2080Ti - best for 4K but expensive

>Navi AIB models come this week. 5700 non-XT blower is alright, due to low power.

General:
>PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING
>Don't bother buying a new monitor for gaming unless it's high refresh with adaptive sync
>A 250GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor
>Bottleneck checkers are worthless

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Other urls found in this thread:

techspot.com/review/1885-ryzen-5-3600-vs-core-i5-9400f/
youtube.com/watch?v=cMK0tEyFbSU
steamcommunity.com/app/805550/discussions/0/1642038659011501294/
twitter.com/SFWRedditImages

what a fucking chad.

oof

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decent monitors that arent too expensive?

i want to upgrade my gpu but my current monitors only have vga ports

Nice pussymobile.

>the car is clearly the focus
>car is long rather than tall
>vertical photo
WHY

Ouch

techspot.com/review/1885-ryzen-5-3600-vs-core-i5-9400f/

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>sale prices
you have to go back, not even worth a (you)

cringe

>I nearly bought AMD
Thanks for saving me guys.

>Bought AMD
thanks for saving me guys

Because phonefags are braindead.

>it's real shill hours
youtube.com/watch?v=cMK0tEyFbSU

I got really fucked over in the silicon lottery then, as my 3700X won't boost higher than 4250 MHz

>what AMD shills don't want you to know
9900K is still by far the best choice if you're making a highend gaming rig, especially a binned one.
"Price-to-performance" is for poorfags.

Any word on when the tomahawk max boards are hitting burgerland? I've seen them available on uk and french sites, but nothing in america. What gives?

>intel aviv gets BTFO in every single productivity based task
wtf I hate AMD now

any indian user here? Want to buy a graphic card where should I buy it from?

why don't you game on a xeon? are you a poorfag?

weak bait

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pls sirs do the needful and buy intel Xer GPU

your bait isnt even subtle anymore mossad

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Was this imagine taken in California and is that a Subaru? Because I knew someone in school with a similar car. Him and his friend had anime wraps on their Japanese cars. It was the most pathetic thing ever.

They were always weird, but were hated due to their personality. They were the type of people who would run to class Naruto style and would read manga sitting down in the corner during lunch.

So sad... Imagine how bad their parents feel.

Xeons don't actually give you better performance in most games, take your
>muh cores
meme and shove it up your 7nm tight butthole.

>best choice
Yes
>by far
No

What's his name

I bough an laptop with a 950m for 270$ build something cheaper in desktop form

yes they do you poorfag nigger
>imagine being so poor that you can only have on game running at a time

Clearly a Mitsubishi Lancer

I prefer the clean looks of the Fractal Design Define R6 to the Meshify & variants. Would the thermal difference be noticeable?

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should i buy a used 580 from amazon?

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Post Xeon vs 9900K benchmarks of modern games then, i'd love to see.
Multiple benchmarks please, not the one game that happens to scale well with 28 cores.

no
they're crypto cards ie almost dead

The fans, maybe. The rest should still be fine

thank fren, think i have to settle with 1030

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all in all not really if you optimize your cooling setup properly

here's your memetracing futureproofing bro
steamcommunity.com/app/805550/discussions/0/1642038659011501294/
>>Assetta Corza (racing game) has dropped RTX support and will not even implement it in future games

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My brother bought his first ssd for his gaming pc. I told him to do a fresh install from the iso from the microsoft website. I just did this in january did those kikes actually remove the iso and force you to use the media creation tool now? Should we just use that? I just want to format a usb to be bootable with winshit

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It can work out, usually you will lose some performance from a mining card, will more than likely be degraded in performance to a 570.
But if he can get a 570 new for the same price its better to get one of those instead

again stephano is a incompetent dev, take this form somebody who has had to deal with him in his Assetto corasa autism.
Don't know why you are using a shitty indie tier dev as your example.

You can still do that with the media creation tool. Why do you think it's named that way

>indie games don't matter

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WHEN WILL THE SAPPHIRE PULSE OR RED DEVIL BE BACK IN STOCK
AHHHHHHHHHHH

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580 or 1660?

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thats not what I said.
I said he is incompoenent and what a 1 man show more or less? It's no surprise that he who has neither the skill or resources is dropping a more complex task that he hans't done before.

REALTIME RAYTRACING IS GREAT, IT'S THE CURRENT IMPLEMENTATION THAT SUCKS. GAMES MUST BE MADE WITH RTRT IN MIND. TACKED ON RTRT IS SHIT. WAIT™ UNTIL IT'S MAINSTREAM. NEW CONSOLES WILL HELP

Simple as

Ok i will try it

1660

5600

>$200 cpu beats $140 cpu
Great

which has better cost to performance™

What's the best price-performance xeon for lga1155?

>Just Wait™
by the time it's matured, 2070 super will be obsolete

As an update to these, for a Photoshop/Image workstation (with a windows 2000 VM controlling a photo laboratory machine, but it barely pulls any resources)
This is what I came up with, RAM already exists.
The 2x6TB drives are for a RAID-1 NAS and will be used as a backup, the 2x4TB will be running in RAID-1 in the system for storage/archive and the SSD for the system and current year work load.

Thoughts?
Not sure about the PSU. There's so many available and the 750W was cheaper than the 600W ones.
Since it's an ITX I thought fully modular will make it a lot easier to handle.
Maybe a 1TB Evo Plus would do fine too? But the TBW are a lot better, and I want the system to last quite a while.

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AWE GET FUKKIN REKT

>seagate

Which is exactly my point. Thanks for pointing that out

Why RAID1 in the system when you already have a NAS? I'd rather use that extra drive to offl-site backup the NAS

Get the Cooler Master H500 if you want a performance case.

To keep the system running even if a disk breaks down.
My mom has no idea how to recover from a backup and it might take a few days until I can get a day off and help.

>9900k originally $699.99
>9700k originally $499.99
I love competition, THANK YOU BASED AMD!

I bought a 2060. Am I rarted?

>2060
>rarted
Double retarded

Go back.

which RAM for a ASUS Prime X470-Pro AM4 AMD X470 +AMD Ryzen 7 1800X 4GHz

What 27" monitor for around $250 should I get in combination with a rtx2070 super?

I got pretty lucky with mine. It boosts to 4.45GHz and manually OCs up to 4.375GHz.

recommend me some good ECC ram for my r5 3600

now, stalker

What's the problem with gigabyte gpu's? Looking for 2070's to buy but from reviews it seems the evga ones have loud fans, the cheapest from msi and zotac are just that and I was told they have poor built quality and don't last long. How about an asus rog strix? Though that one is kind of too expensive.

purpose? budget?

do you want
>motion clarity
>viewing angles
>good colors
>good contrast/blacks?

It's been 3 and a half years since I built my PC and it's finally starting to crap out, besides another RAM stick what upgrades should be made? I don't do any gaming that's particularly stressful

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>AMD Ryzen 7 3700X (3.6 GHz)
>Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE
>DDR4 Corsair Vengeance LPX, Noir, 16 Go (2 x 8 Go), 3600 MHz, CAS 18
>Be Quiet! Dark Rock Slim
>PowerColor Radeon RX 5700 XT Red Devil
>Samsung Série 970 EVO Plus, 1 To, M.2
>Seagate IronWolf, 10 To 7200tpm
>EVGA 750 GQ, 750W
>Some random case mid tower
For gaming 1440p/144hz on Linux Cinnamon. Already got an aorus ad27qd. Want it to last 5+ years and probably wont OC. Dont know if I should split my HDD in two. What about SSD, maybe take a second one. Finally the case and venti, something better ? Thanks for the help. Already got some advice from anons in the last thread about getting a 3600x instead of 3700x, dont know if I should go for it.

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Is the 3700x stock cooler worth replacing?

All of those.

Only if you plan to manual OC.

Well thanks for the advice fucktard this tool is garbage. Back to looking for an iso

then you get none of those, tard.

P: gaming
B: depends
also the heatsink! this model doesnt come with one

So even if I have money to spare there's no point getting one of the smaller Noctua?

Why is it recommended on logical increment?

That is total system draw. It is really close to twice the power draw. Like 150W vs 80W. Or maybe the 3700X draws more than I think on blender. Most of the time it's in the 60-80W range for the package itself but I guess it could go higher.

The windows OpenGL driver sucks.
It's fine in Linux, better than Nvidia's, even.
It's fine for emulators which don't use opengl.
It's fine for older emulators which require piss all to run.

>faster in older titles.
Not true. Ryzen is the fastest in the really old games, games that fit most everything in the cache like CSGO does but even more extreme for even older games.

If you think it's too loud after getting it, yes.

Get a better board
Get a better or cheaper ssd instead of overpriced yet slow garbage
HDDs belong in server/NAS, not desktop.
PSU is way oversized. 500W would be fine, 650W max.

Whatever you're trying to say, probably yes.

By the time it's matured, 2080Ti will be obsolete.

for gaming, just buy the fastest 3200mhz cl14 ram you can get

Thinking about going for the 3600 and a 2080 super instead of the 9700k and 2070 super. I want the best possible gayman experience for older games at 4k60 if possible and 1440p60 for newer stuff.

you get what you pay for. their customer service and RMA process is shit

>The windows OpenGL driver sucks.
Because AMD is incompetent.
>It's fine in Linux, better than Nvidia's, even.
Because it's open software and people, not AMD fix it themselves.

So essentially the only time amd drivers a good is when they aren't responsible for making them and instead the free people are.

I don't really care, as long as non of those are totally bad
I need two of those monitors for working and maybe some occasional gaming
also want to record a video with a game engine, buy I am not 100% sure if that actually records the screen output or is rendered into a video format directly

alsois not me, who has actually asked the question

even the 9600k is better for gaming than any ryzen
the real advantage of ryzen is having more cores for work tasks

>I don't really care, as long as non of those are totally bad
then you don't have any options that fit that.
Well maybe you do but they are usually a shit ton more expensive.

So choose which ones you care about.

Is this a good 1440p 144hz monitor? I heard there were some possible flickering issues, but I'd like to take a chance anyway.
It's on sale where I live and it's really cheap

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anime website

How about KFA2? I hear they are good.

How long would a 9600k last? Since the only upgrade I could make would be an i7 or i9 because current z390 boards probably won't support 10th gen intel chips.

Intel is significantly stronger for gaming, but you'll still get better gains from a better GPU in most games.
Get the 2080S for sure, but maybe consider saving up a month longer to get the 9700K as well (or 9900K if you can find a good price for it).

looks pretty good to me just from reading the spec sheet

this

easily enough to get max fps for the next 5 years

no idea. Galaxy isn't widely sold here in US

viewing angles
contrast

NZXT H500 vs CM NR600?