Is there a more pathetic term than "freetards"? Are CIA niggers so good they managed to convince people that caring about their freedom is retardation? The saddest thing is that people are apparently happy of being slaves. Not even actual slaves during ancient times had such lack of dignity. Despicable.
BTW, obviously any post using that word (except those calling them out for that) holds no weight in any discussion, and can be safely disregarded.
This is the Cunny Intelligence Agency, you are under arrest for soliciting sex with adults using Rock CD's as bribes.
John Johnson
shut the fuck up cumbrain
Nicholas Wilson
>if you rent a car you're a slave, you should only own a car or not use one seems the term is accurate
Nathaniel Cox
>cumbrain Forced meme.
Dominic Barnes
>everything I don't like is forced cringe
Leo Hall
It is, /v/ was flooded with cumbrain threads and posts.
Elijah Cooper
/v/ was flooded with ecchi before that.
Joshua Foster
>Is there a more pathetic term than "freetards"? Animetards.
David Scott
based
op is just a incel weeb pedo
Levi Rogers
Yes I can confirm this CIA niggers for a long time and now exponentially after nuclear incident in Iran started too fish for internet agency
Blake Evans
It's no worse than the other popular words that mean 'I have no argument but I disapprove and you should feel bad'. There's plenty of those in this thread already. It's just cope in the end, or cheap bait. >Are CIA niggers so good they managed to convince people that caring about their freedom is retardation? The people have convinced themselves that their way is better because it is what the majority does. Viewing it more in depth, there are qualms and turmoil, but in practical terms, it's no different than smoking; addiction, harm and all.
Freetard is a good word. It describes the person who it is used against so well. A person who is so obsessed with freedom that he makes things needlessly complicated just for the shallow reasoning of >Haha i am so much better then them peasants i had to compile it all from source wasting my time in a silly attempt to justify his unwarranted self importance, thinking that the CIA/FBI want his ass for being an edgelord on Jow Forums and saying the Jews run the world. In other words, the world would keep turning if you kys.
Jace Bell
Is this what computer programmers look like?
Colton Jackson
why are those ribbons just painted on
Blake Bell
Making small sacrifices for an ideal is a noble deed. Materialist cucks such as yourself will never understand.
as a software developer there's nothing "free" about not being able to make money off the product of my labour
Austin King
anytime anyone tries to refute "african american slaves were happy to have jobs, be part of a comunity, live in peace" i will point to the current state of the computing industry w.r.t. free software
Jeremiah Evans
Who says you can't? Hint: not Stallman.
Jayden Nelson
Good luck selling a program if the source is available and some other asshole can just download and recompile and rerelease it and charge 2 dollars for it
Kevin Lee
how do i get a gf(male) like this?
Brandon Young
I think that caring about your freedom is different then the term freetard, freetard is when you start using something that is less in quality then another application. For instance Gimp and photoshop.
Adam Price
you can drum up support for your product ie hey im working on "abcdefg" heres some pictures and progress its gonna be rad please fund my progress/support my work and get money that way. it can work.
but once you release it whether its open or closed source its possible for it to be copied for free so really your issue is with the average consumer not free software
Carter Hill
million dollar gaming companies and billion dollar movies are pirated daily, what is your proposed solution to counter the common consumer?
Noah Adams
GPL, licenses compatible with it and licenses not-compatible with it but still regarded as open source do not prevent you from monetizing the code you have written.
Besides even if you do release software under a GPL license it does not become public domain, you're still the copyright holder.
From GNU.org website:
>Does the GPL allow me to sell copies of the program for money? (#DoesTheGPLAllowMoney) Yes, the GPL allows everyone to do this. The right to sell copies is part of the definition of free software. Except in one special situation, there is no limit on what price you can charge. (The one exception is the required written offer to provide source code that must accompany binary-only release.)
>Does the GPL allow me to charge a fee for downloading the program from my distribution site? (#DoesTheGPLAllowDownloadFee) Yes. You can charge any fee you wish for distributing a copy of the program. If you distribute binaries by download, you must provide “equivalent access” to download the source—therefore, the fee to download source may not be greater than the fee to download the binary.
Robert Nguyen
Based OP telling the obvious
Angel Brooks
so basically, everyone is a busker? this is how I can tell you've never actually sold software, or anything probably, stuff like that only works for a small minority of businesses unless you're a charity sure you can copy it for free now, but it's harder to do so, because of DRM and the fact that it's illegal
Christopher Mitchell
Get out, Pajeet
Jason Green
my point for those who intentionally missed it is even the most protected, and expensively protected software and movies, are cracked in a matter of days if not through zero-days.
drm doesnt work and it never has
once you release your product YOU ARE NO LONGER WORKING ON IT WHY SHOULD YOU GET PAID FOR IT ANY MORE LOL
Connor Sullivan
This is a much common problem of non-free software though. You're trying to pin it as if it was the fault of free software licensing rather then the problem of the perceived injustice regarding the price of software.
All of RedHat's products are open-source but they still make fat stashes of money and they even financially support their competition - CentOS because they realize some customers don't want the services they offer, they just want the codebase.
Parker Gomez
laws are not a guide for morality
Ryan Morales
>This is a much common problem of non-free software though No it's not, someone can't legally resell the software I've written
Jason Gutierrez
you make code, you say hey im making code i need to eat to make code i need to drink water to make code please payfor my water and food while i make code i get that.
you have released code and want to do nothing and get paid for doing nothing while the code sits in a repository somewhere i dont get that.
Dominic Kelly
yeah, busking, imagine having an economy based around begging You get paid for the work you put in to creating the product, what don't you get about that?
Jason Richardson
So? They will do it illegally if they have an incentive. You're saying all those things as if your products already made you a billionaire rather than making chump change that would easily be achievable by a single generous donor.
ok so i work at a pizzeria i make a pizza and get paid minimum wage you the coder eat the pizza and create a million dollar game while eating the pizza wheres my cut of the million dollar game that was impossible without my labor
Caleb Carter
>So? They will do it illegally if they have an incentive. Piracy rates are high, something like 70%, the 30% of users who pay are the ones that matter If someone recompiles my program and resells it for cheap on every major distribution platform (because it's legal) then the amount of paying users I have will drop from 30% to 1%
Levi Turner
It wasn't impossible without your labour, I could have gotten pizza elsewhere If you want to understand how economics work then read up on it, that's a stupid thing to say
You don't have a point. You don't understand what you're talking about. If you were the only person providing food on the planet, then you would be the richest person on the planet. But you aren't, I can get food anywhere, so you aren't rich
Brayden White
>If someone recompiles my program and resells it for cheap on every major distribution platform (because it's legal) then the amount of paying users I have will drop from 30% to 1% That's a big IF my friend. You're only obliged to provide source code to someone you sell the binary to and your only obligation is to have it sold in an equal-access scenario where if you charge someone 100USD for the binary you cannot charge them more then 100USD to get access to the source code.
Just don't sell your product to someone who will jew you on it
Hudson Perry
You don't get paid for doing nothing. You created the product. It's the difference between creativity and labour, labour only requires you to mindlessly repeat a process. People who have ideas are allowed to monetize their ideas. This has been proven to be a very good thing for the economy. It's got nothing to do with being "on top", if I'm a programmer writing a program on my own time I'm making less money than you are until it's finished
Evan Torres
>That's a big IF my friend. Reselling shit happens all the time. People wouldn't even bother to enter Asian markets until recently for example because no software piracy laws, everyone just bought pirated software, you'd make no money at all selling it for a fair price You're adding a bunch of rules there, open source on its own isn't THAT harmful to selling software (although usually you only stand to lose by releasing your source), but freetardism basically demands that you have to let people do anything they want with your code, except restrict other people from doing things with it too
Justin Hernandez
so how do you monetize your ideas w/o labor then
and if labor is only repetition how do you repeat a new idea?
Hunter King
If your product does not require support you can sell as a commercial service it was probably too small to be monetized.
Ryan Anderson
>so how do you monetize your ideas w/o labor then you dont you fucking freeloader, unless you have money to start with and can pay people to do the work for you
Connor Anderson
>You don't get paid for doing nothing you get paid while doing nothing, but im the freeload :)
Brody Reyes
you get paid for having the idea and then realizing that idea, which usually a big effort, harder than working a job
Justin Rivera
>open source Literal buzzword term cucks made up in order to avoid having to understand the actual ideals of free software, and which corporations push in order to cloud its original intention. Numales crying "I love open source!" don't even know what they're defending.
Samuel Reed
>Implying the CIA had anything to do with a decade+ old maymay You have to go back.
anyone can have an idea but the execution is what matters hence what you are paid for is the work done, and nothing more
Andrew Bennett
God I wish that were me
Ryan Cruz
what imaginary world do you live in? If I write a program I can sell it and get money from it. I don't get paid for any labour. Ideas matter more, anyone can do the work, having a good idea is much rarer
Christian Allen
writing a program is labour.
Nathaniel Sullivan
yes? you're not actually making any points here, you're just being a butthurt communist
Zachary Brooks
heres an idea: airplanes but five times as many passengers but the same size and shape as now so theres no additional scaling or fuel costs
id like my money please
Leo Jenkins
Bring that idea to life and you'll have your money
Kevin Mitchell
unless you tihk an airplane that costs the same as todays airplanes but can fit five times the passengers is a bad idea and can prove why thats a bad idea
Eli Cruz
so do labour and get money. im glad we can agree on that.
Andrew Kelly
Do labour for a good idea That's not a good idea, or even an idea, it's just an impossible scenario you brought up Good idea + execution of the idea = you're rich that's the foundation for innovation
Grayson Thomas
>Making small sacrifices Well user i can paypal you $5 to go buy a cross and nail yourself to it for whenever you feel you want sympathy for all those "sacrifices" you make. Or you could do as i said and kys, the world will keep turning without you.
Carter Young
lmao seething freetards
Austin Johnson
what a bugman, single-digit IQ post
Levi King
is there anything more pathetic than a weeaboo pedo?
Jack Roberts
freetards
Levi Harris
>Is there a more pathetic term than "freetards"? >Are CIA niggers so good they managed to convince people that caring about their freedom is retardation? >The saddest thing is that people are apparently happy of being slaves. Not even actual slaves during ancient times had such lack of dignity. >Despicable. >BTW, obviously any post using that word (except those calling them out for that) holds no weight in any discussion, and can be safely disregarded. Virtue signaling about being a paranoid retard doesn't make you intelligent