how do I even learn Vulkan all the tuturials fucking suck
How do I even learn Vulkan all the tuturials fucking suck
Zachary Wright
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Camden Price
just use opengl faggot
Nathan Nelson
You suck
Christopher Lopez
what's the point? it's really outdated by now
I don't want to waste my time on learning something I won't use
Gabriel Gomez
really outdated? Won't use? 4.5/4.6 is awesome, you not using it is entirely your choice if you choose to use Vulkan for something where you won't even end up needing the copious amount of control it provides.
Just because it's new and shiny and concurrent doesn't mean it's practical, especially at this stage.
If you want to feel all new/hip just use DSA and abuse framebuffers lol
Adam Hall
alright then what tutorials/guides do you recommend then?
by the end I wish to be able to write a simple game engine where I can walk around a cube
and how long would that take me to do? month? two?
Thomas Smith
the tutorials are written for people who already understand opengl
sorry bud, but you're a scrub and you'll stay a scrub
Tyler Hernandez
>it's really outdated now
Dude, we live in a time where you can write modern OpenGL and run it in your web browser and experience only like 30% memory bloat. You're not going to be hired by a AAA company to write their PBR algorithm by reading a Vulkan tutorial. Just use OpenGL.
David King
learn opengl first then vulkan is ez
Connor Hernandez
how do I do it
John Bailey
Nathaniel Gray
You can't. Vulkan is an awful, awful API and the only people who were able to make something with it are employed at game engine companies.
Use OpenGL if you want to make something cross-platform. Compared to other low-level graphics APIs like Metal2 or DirectX, Vulkan is just pointlessly verbose and buggy. And does that buy you anything? No. It's usually buggier.
Evan Baker
ROBERT NO!
Oliver Hall
>random online tutorial that's years out of date
Ok
Andrew Hughes
it's FASTER tho...
John Wilson
You're starting to sound pretty hopelessly out of touch with (or rather hopelessly and incorrectly presumptuous of) what the graphics world really is and what using this stuff really means.
OpenGL 3.0 is 11 years old. Learn to walk before you learn to bitch.
Dominic Ross
thanks I will try that
Jaxson Collins
I'm not OP you dumbfuck. And no, learning old ass shit doesn't help you.
Adrian Jenkins
Sure. But unless you're writing a AAA game engine, that won't matter. Modern OpenGL is fast, too. Ever since they moved to VBO rendering, it's really fast.
When people say that OpenGL is slow, they mostly refer to the olden days of immediate mode with glBegin() and glEnd() when CPU and GPU kept blocking each other and drivers were awful. Those days are over. Vulkan is only faster if you're better than the driver at managing resources, which most people won't be.
Joshua Gutierrez
learnopengl is shit though.
Just read through the docs, they explain everything more clearly.
Benjamin Campbell
>it's really outdated by now
And?
It still works and will continue to work for the foreseeable future.
Nothing you will ever do on you own will require more than what say OpenGL 2 has to offer (if that).
As long as your learn the general pipeline of buffers and shaders it will translate to every other API and version, just need to learn the minutia of setting those up.
Wyatt Bennett
This is painfully accurate
Aiden Thompson
No it's ok.
learn to manipulate buffers and transformations then you can dive into more complexe things like lightnings and animations
also opengl 3.3 to 4.6 is pretty much the same except some extensions added to main standard
Levi Campbell
which one would you recommend then?
Josiah Cruz
Use directx instead