/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>Assemble a part list
pcpartpicker.com/
>How to assemble a PC
youtube.com/watch?&v=IhX0fOUYd8Q

Want help?
>State budget & CURRENCY
>Post at least some attempt at a parts list
>List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)

CPUs based on current pricing
>Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on most mobos with the right BIOS)
>R3 2200G - Minimum 30-60fps gaming. 2400G/3400G may be worth to less likely require a CPU upgrade when adding a dGPU
>R5 2600 - 60fps+ gaming CPU with great value
>R5 3600 - Great gaming CPU
>R7 3700X - Overkill gaming CPU
>i9-9900k - Only worthwhile with a 2080Ti @ 1080p
>R7 1700 - Budget production
>R9 3900X - Professional tasks

RAM
>Do not use a single DIMM. 2 sticks for a typical dual channel CPU
>CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 3200CL16 or Micron E-die ("AES" in P/N) recommended
>AMD B & X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP
>B-die is EOL, stock is limited

GPUs based on current pricing
1080p
>RX 570/580 8GB - Can be found on sale/used for cheap. Look for 570s which are >1240MHz boost
>GTX 1660TI / Vega56 - higher fps / more demanding games; only worth it on sale as normal MSRP is to ohigh
>RX 5700 - higher FPS
1440p
>RX 5700 - standard, 75-100FPS+
>RX 5700XT - higher fps
2160p (4K)
>RX 5700XT - budget option. Upscale with RIS
>2080Ti - best for 4K but expensive

>Navi AIB models have low availability. 5700 non-XT blower is alright, due to low power.

General
>Yes, adaptive sync (g/free-sync) is important for gaming
>NVMe isn't better than SATA SSD for gaming
>Don't use Speccy
>Beware sites which rank CPUs by arbitrary, obfuscated scores (eg userbenchmark, passmark, cpuboss)
>Beware and report the permaban evading Jow Forums spammer who posts fake benchmarks
>AM4 VRMs + Monitors + SSD Guide under "more"

more rentry.co/pcbg-more

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Other urls found in this thread:

pcpartpicker.com/list/CCYCBb
youtube.com/watch?v=wxxUQcfq9vo
amazon.fr/Carte-Graphique-GeForce®-SUPER-Blower/dp/B07TXWLG34/ref=sr_1_5?__mk_fr_FR=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&keywords=2070 super&qid=1566156847&refinements=p_36:20000-56000&rnid=428393031&s=computers&sr=1-5
amazon.fr/gp/product/B07VYZL7HK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
pcpartpicker.com/list/xKWTvn
pcpartpicker.com/list/mmpYpG
rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/27gl850-b
forum.gigabyte.us/thread/7341/boot-problems-after-unplugged-elite
twitter.com/SFWRedditImages

>2160p (4K)
>RX 5700XT - budget option. Upscale with RIS
fuck off with your nigger shilling

>don't use Speccy
Why?

Will Huang skip pci-e 4.0? Any rumors out there?

Reminder to those considering navi

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>2018
you are on the same level as OP, fucking shills.

Fuck off Steve you balding fat shill nigger kike

Current PC
>i7 4790k
>MSI 980Ti
>Z97 MSI GAMING 5
>16GB ddr3 1866 ballistic
>Samsung 850evo 250gb
>H100i corsair aio
>Corsair obsidian 750 case

New pc for ultra max frames pcpartpicker.com/list/CCYCBb

>110C is expected

I'm not sure whether this is better for /sqg/ or here so I'm just going to ask here. For the past month or so my video output will switch between only coming from my motherboard HDMI output and my videocard HDMI output. Like I might wake up my computer one morning and realize my monitor is receiving no signal and have to switch where the HDMI cable is plugged in. Does anyone have any ideas what it could be that's causing this? Am I going to have to replace my motherboard?

It's not too big of a problem since I don't play videogames very much anymore, but having to sometimes settle for plugging into the motherboard and using my CPU's built in graphics is annoying.

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Reminder to all Eurofriends, please be aware that when AMD is usually recommended for best value, your market is not taken into account, considering that your prices are much different than U.S prices. Obviously, if the Nvidia counterpart is cheaper, purchase that card.

anything about i5 9400f?

Broken drivers isnt okay

Its a based gaming cpu

both nvidia and amd have the EU VAT markup, the gap is kept the same
please stop talking about things you have no clue about you utter retard

>here's your driver optimization bro
youtube.com/watch?v=wxxUQcfq9vo

About to pull the trigger on this n--ice case. It's a Silentium Regnum RG4T which is polish (I'm not, but I live in yurop anyways so it's not uncommon to have these things accessible).

Does anyone happen to own this? How good is it? On the surface it has every feature I need, looks really good and is affordable but I'd like to know if there's something I'm overlooking.

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>pcpartpicker.com/list/CCYCBb
kinda low end motherboard there
also you should go for at least 3600mhz ram, better 4000
case is also kinda low end
also get a Lenovo Legion Y27gq-2 for actual max frames monitor

my 3200c14 ripjaws are not stable on xmp
I even increased the voltage and my computer still fails to post every other boot
what software do I use to test the sticks?

Look at this dude getting physically agitated for somebody not praising his favourite brand of consumer electronics.

Monitor:
-Waiting for review of LG 27gl850

PC parts:
-CPU: RYZEN 7 3700X
-GPU: ASUS ROG STRIX GeForce RTX 2070 Super
-MB: X570 Aorus Elite
-Storage1: 970 Evo (250GB)
-Storage2: 860 Evo ( 1TB) 2.5" SATA
-RAM: Not sure which brand as want CPU might benefit from specific manufacturers but up to 32GB, maybe 16GB
-Cooling: NH-D15 Dual Radiator
-Case: Corsair OBSIDIAN 500D

Price:
-Plan to fit in ~1800-2300£ range

Still unsure about a few components, would be great to hear what others think. So
-GPU and MB custom versions. Both 2070 and x570 have number of custom editions and I am not sure which ones would work best performance/price wise.
-Monitor. Aiming at 2K 144Ghz monitor. Waiting for LG27gl850, however have a feeling that it will be trash so need some nice backup plan

he is right, you know
5700xt red devil are ridiculously priced in europe
might as well spend a little more for a card that performs better in games while being quieter and less hot

>lying on the internet when people can check for themselves
seek medical help or just neck yourself

amazon.fr/Carte-Graphique-GeForce®-SUPER-Blower/dp/B07TXWLG34/ref=sr_1_5?__mk_fr_FR=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&keywords=2070 super&qid=1566156847&refinements=p_36:20000-56000&rnid=428393031&s=computers&sr=1-5
amazon.fr/gp/product/B07VYZL7HK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

cheapest of each model, still a 100 eur gap

there's a 150-200 eur gap between a 3 fan 2070 super and the red devil
>NOOOOOOOOOOO you were supposed to compared high end 5700xt to low end 2070 super

Gonna go for it lads
pcpartpicker.com/list/xKWTvn

>sapphire pulse
lel might as well buy a stock 5700xt then

pcpartpicker.com/list/mmpYpG

I’m new to this, could I please get some opinions? I’m shooting for a 1440p 144hz gaming/entertainment build for around $2,000 USD including monitor. I want to get the red devil 5700xt when it’s in stock but couldn’t find it on the site to add it to the current parts list. I’m going for a 570 motherboard because frankly I don’t want to deal with the compatibility issues with the older ones.

Also, does anyone have a good 1440p 144hz freesync monitor recommendation? If I used the distance chart right, I’m looking for a 32 inch. Maybe the AOC CQ32G1? I don’t know if it’s shit. I wouldn’t mind going a bit overbudget for a good monitor since It’ll be a while before I buy a new one.

Finally, I know nothing about cases. I don’t really need it to look like HAL 9000 or anything, I just want something that fits the parts and has good airflow etc.

Thanks in advance for help with any of this.

how does that conflict with
>might as well spend a little more for a card that performs better in games while being quieter and less hot
?

if you spend a little more you end up with a garbage KFA2 that doesn't cool enough and end up losing clock speed over time
no one benchmarks a 2070super with a garbage bin card because they know it's not representative of the power of the chip, but the people that think that a kfa2 or galax will give them the same performances as the cards that are being benchmarked need to be warned

>a 1440p 144hz gaming/entertainment build for around $2,000 USD
that might be a bit too little with a decent monitor

mate obviously you buy a 600€ 2070 super and not one of the cheap ones
it feasible when a red devil is like 550€

performance and temp wise there is little to no difference between a pulse @450 eur and a red devil @550
might as well get the pulse and save 150 eur from the cheapest acceptable 2070 super

Will 3600 work fine with this mobo and RAM? I'm really concerned with RAM compatibility and I heard some people weren't able to start XMP on cheap mobos.

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You seem to get awfully angry about consumer electronics discussion on an interwebs forum. Maybe it is you who should talk to a professional.

I could afford to go up a few hundred I guess...

should i go for it or its better to throw more on 3600

You need a 2080ti for 1440p 144hz

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definitely get the 3600

fuck off nigger, i got a 2080 super almost brand new @ 650 eur from a retard that upgraded to a 2080 ti
i don't see the point of lying on the internet to shill for free and induce people in buyers remorse, if that's your coping mechanism to face the fact that you were uniformed at the day of your purchases, please refrain from dragging others with you

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it is budget option though, cheapest one if you are stuck with 4k monitor

Is it good idea to go with 3700x and corsair H150i?

H500 or H500M, which case should I buy?

>dx11

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Ive had my gl27850 for a weak. Its based af. Rtings has a review of it. They said its based af

3600 is better and will last longer

You dont have to play on ultra settings

>1080p

actually I checked and I literally couldn't find any other 32" monitor with low ms, except for the AOC one you already stated

You are right but it's still not easy on modern games even on lowest settings its good to have realistic expectations

Yeah i mean i dont like going below high settings. Some settings thank for fps for no real good reason like msaa

Can you give me a link to that review?

What settings for the graph

Been out of the loop for a couple of months now because I've been waiting for the new LG monitors to come out before I start deciding on a computer build for gayming.

Plan on grabbing a pair of LG 27GL850-B 1440p IPS monitors. Currently have a r5 1600, 1050 ti, 16 gb RAM & 2666 mhz. What are my options? I was planning on getting a 2070 originally, but is the 2070 super worth it? Also planned on grabbing a Ryzen 7 3800X, 3200 mhz 16gb ram. Thoughts?

Thanks for the charts. I don't necessarily have to maximize frames/graphics so it seems like the red devil might be good enough for the price range I'm in?

Thanks for the second opinion.

rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/27gl850-b
At the bottom they compare it to the older 1440p ips 144hz asus panels and say this one is better

I wouldnt worry about the cpu at the moment. I would get the 2070 super and see how things go from there

Asking in the new thread. Rivatuner has stopped working with cs go for some reason, but still works with my other games. Anyone else have this issue, or know how to solve it?

Have you tried simply reinstalling or updating the version?

How about the Dell 27 inch TN 1440p 144hz one?

I'll have to try and find some 1440p benchmarks for the zen CPUs because I really don't want to have a bottleneck. And I can't get my zen 1600 past 4.0ghz for the extra frames too. But yeah I think I'll heed your advice. I hate having to do a fresh windows install after all.

In not familiar with it

Lads my 970 died, should I get a 5700XT AIB or a standard non-super 2070 (supers cost like $150-200+ more than the 5700xt where I live and the 2070 reg is slightly more money than the 5700xt).

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I wouldnt worry about it, 1440p is already very difficult to push 200 fps in games with so the 1600 shouldnt be a bottleneck except in certain fucky games. If its been fine for you at 1080p so far it likely will continue to do fine

Hey bros, PC noob here so I hope i can get a good advice.

Planning to use a dual PC streaming setup and trying to build a cheap streaming PC atm. The sole purpose of this PC is to stream, so I don´t need a GPU.

My current thoughts are something like this:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 2200G
Capture Card: Avermedia Live Gamer HD 2
Mainboard: MSI PRO-E AMD A320
HDD: 1000GB Seagate BarraCuda
RAM: 8GB G.Skill Aegis DDR4
Power Supply: 450 Watt Corsair CX Series CX450
Case: AeroCool CS-102 Micro-ATX

Its about 400 bucks which is my budget.
What do you think about it? Any suggestion or opionions?

Has anyone used an xc ultra card? Is the 3 slot a meme or does it actually cool well?

Yeah, I re-installed it and it still doesn't show. I've fixed it now by changing the frame rate in the developer console thingy. I'm good now, thanks.

>being a corelet in 2019
>buying AMD GPUs in 2019
Hope y'all niggas aren't retarded

I have a 8 core 16 thread cpu but all I do is 4chin, do I need to upgrade?

>What's wrong with gigabyte wifi cards? I was gonna get one of those.
Was wondering the same.

For that much of a price difference the 5700xt seems like the only reasonable choice

Depends how broken the drivers are. I cant get a straight answer out of anyone about how bad it is

I have a 60hz 1600x1200 monitor lol so yeah what I have has never been truly tested.

gotta go 32 core, bro

Assuming that all else is equal, IPS or VA?

It really depends on what you want. Also va is cheaper, generally

IPS unless there's a good deal or you gotta go fast.

Tftcentral also has a review

As a follow up to this post, I'm now considering just getting a better case and/or CPU cooler. I'm satisfied enough with these improved framerates after OC'ing that buying a new processor/gpu just to get a slightly more stable 60fps wouldn't justify it. I'll worry about that with more taxing games in the future.

My main concern now is temps and fan noise. So I'm looking at an ATX Sharkoon M25-W (case) and a Cryorig H7 (cooler). Anyone know if these are any good? Is a case that can pack an extra fan at the front (3 total) worth it?

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Bros, i got a pretty fucking old monitor, is it really worth it to buy a newer one with better color quality and such? Its 2k a meme?

VA

lads blogpost here. I just need a GPU to complete my new system but the retards at AMD can't produce proper stock to save their lives

I'm pretty close to saying fuck the 5700xt and buying a 2070s instead

talk me out of it. I really want a 5700xt, it's cheaper and better in games I play, but $100 doesn't matter to me but waiting 2-3 weeks for a GPU does

did one pass with memtest86 and found no issues while on xmp
also found this
forum.gigabyte.us/thread/7341/boot-problems-after-unplugged-elite
turns out there are a lot of people with the same issue, seems to be some bios issue effecting all the new ryzen cpus
guess I'll just wait for another bios update

>i have to be a patreon to see the review
Well thanks lol

How do I use RGB aesthetically rather than rainbow vomit? Case has a window so I might as well use it.

Rooks great on ultrawide monitor

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2070s is the better gpu. Its faster. I am trying to find an xc ultra myself

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IPS if you care about games.

I mostly play battlefield, which is where the 5700xt destroys the 2070s, but yeah overall the 2070s is better

if there was evga stock I probably would buy a 2070s right now, but those are also oos everywhere

why are pc components always so limited in stock?

looking for recommendations for a good 1440p 144hz screen. my other two screens are 24' but i would consider a 27' screen. anyone have any suggestions?

VA is a fucking meme garbage worse than fast TN.

>Lads my 970 died
How?
My MSI 980 with 4GB is still alive, fueling 3440x1440 monitor.

Impressive arguments.

Jewish companies do paper launches before shit is actually ready to one up each other

Probably retardation. I sold my brother my 970 8 months ago

What do you guys think?
PC components are still too pricey these days man $600 for older components idk

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any opinions on the LG 27GL850-B? anyone?

Fuck, I didn't even change thermal interface after using it for ~5 years.
Well if it dies I'll have to buy 2080s/2080ti.

I'm in the same boat. The strong point of the 5700xt was supposedly good price to performance compared to nvidia. But when it's not available anywhere, and the EU pricing puts the partner cards close to 2070s territory anyway, the advantage is lost.

Its based

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