ATTENTION: Graphics card prices are excessive by historical standards; therefore, consumers should delay or completely forgo any midrange to high end graphics card purchases. The gouging has two root causes: lack of market competition and shortage/"new normal" pricing during the mining hayday.
Want help? >State budget & CURRENCY >Post at least some attempt at a parts list >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs based on current pricing: >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on most mobos with the right BIOS) >R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming >R5 2600 - Good gaming CPU with great value >R5 3600 - Great gaming CPU >R7 3700X - Overkill gaming CPU >R7 2700 - Budget video editing >R9 3900X - Professional tasks
RAM: >Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended >CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3200CL16 is ideal >AMD B and X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP
Graphics cards based on current pricing: >AAA or multiplatform games: Radeon card appropriate for your montior >PC centric or VR games: Nvidia card appropriate for your display >Used RX 570s can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty 1080p 16:9 >RX 570 8GB - good performance with great value >GTX 1660 - standard
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >Don't bother buying a new monitor for gaming unless it's high refresh with adaptive sync >A 250GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor >Bottleneck checkers are worthless
someone last thread said 6 Ryzen 3xxx cores will be better than 8 Ryzen 2xxx cores. How true is this? Microcenter has the R5-3600 for $200 or the R7-2700X for the exact same price.
Caleb Butler
Save your hundos and buy some land.
Josiah Martinez
You will get a better Mother board deal with the 3000 series as well as a discount on ram and gpu
Nicholas Hernandez
already have that. 21 acres to be exact. I'm trying to price out a sub $1400 build and I was wondering if it's worth getting Ryzen 3000 series. Are they still suffering issues with idle voltage/temps/etc? I'm not looking to invest into a headache
>4 year old monitors >that i plan on using another 6 years
Look at a benchmarks? dur
Nathaniel Ross
Which mobo do i pick?
-GIGABYTE Z390 GAMING X -ASRock Z390 Phantom Gaming 4 -Gigabyte Z390 UD -ASRock Z390 Pro4
It is for an i5-9400F build, i don't pan to do any OC
Brayden Wilson
>9400 None of them. Buy a cheap board
William Ramirez
Favourite PSUs at 750w?
Eli Carter
>9400F >Z390 Get better brain. You can get B450 and the much better 3600 for that money.
Gavin Thompson
i was talking about software >radeonpro.info/ basically im looking for the modern equivalent of that
Carter Howard
ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/X2Txhy I am in need of a cheap but not shit power supply, preferably without any of the visible color cables. They didnt bother me as much when I was a kid, but now the single simple color aesthetic is really something I like. Windowed case so I can see the 600 leaf red devil GPU I'm going to buy, but im not sure what's the cheapest/best at a low price. All on newegg.ca so when the instant the GPU pops up, I can add it to the cart and instant PayPal for it.
AMD gaming drivers are vastly better for professional software than Nvidia's are, so you'd be fine just getting a Radeon card for most workstation usage.
>ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/X2Txhy >red devil The RAM obviously isn't ideal and and you should at least overclock it, but the new stuff looks fine. Notable that that PSU can be a bit noisy. It's going to be the noisiest thing in your case over such a quiet GPU.
Gabriel Morales
>8 cores? Why do you need 8 threads? 4 cores without hyperthreading is more than enough.
Joseph Rogers
4 cores and 8 threads is the minimum everyone should have these days
Mason Morris
>i don't plan to do any OC you can't even OC on that CPU. Also, why waste your money on a 9400f?
Evan Davis
pcpartpicker.com/list/kTHTvn What graphics card card do you guys suggest I get with this build? I'm honestly sick of waiting and am seriously considering get a 2070S
Julian Smith
I was looking at a build and Ireally liked the asrock Pro4
But with Motherboards, you really "buy the features" since all of them can run the processor and have slots for a graphics card. Ask yourself, "Which features do I want/need?" and go from there. You may not want a board with integrated wifi if you already have a wifi card that can be plugged into a mobo
personally, I was looking at the ASRock z390 Pro4 - I liked the look.
Although, I did ultimately decide to not get the i3 9100f combo I had in mind and go slightly more expensive to the ryzen i5 2600x ASrock b450 Fatal1ty build instead. But i was seriously considering an intel build too.
Lucas Rogers
Get a Radeon 5700 for realzies
Jeremiah Hill
that is why i am here. I don't know anything about hardware since the geforce 4. Are you talking about AMD 3600?, well the choices and prices in my place are fucked. I look for something that isn't utter shit, the 3600 is like 80 dollars more expensive. Aren't AMD CPUs power hogs? I had once a fx 8300 and it was roaring like crazy
ye, ill check out some amd mobos. I really don't need any special features except a m.2 ssd slot
Cooper Barnes
Best gpu to pair with a 3700x "overkill" gaming CPU?
Is the ledditor responding to the OP here right that you can't output video over TB3 on this board with that CPU? Jow ForumsAmd/comments/cs0o30/amd_ryzen_9_3900x_advice_on_a_thunderbolt_3/
Will I have to buy a 3m long HDMI 2.1 together with a Thunderbolt cable?
Matthew Campbell
How long will I need to wait to get a hold of one? for realzies
Brandon Cox
I like that you're helpful but you have a hard on for AMD. Your posting style is too obvious and the majority of people who want the 5700 xt can't because AMD is being fags with poor launch decisions.
Aiden Baker
The 3600x has roughly the same power draw as the 9900k. You can't really see the line for Intel, but it's there.
Chances the reference blower 5700xt will plummet in price?
Mason Mitchell
6c6t works just fine
Brandon Morris
No, all va panels ghost. If you want lest ghosting get an ips, even less ghoasting, tn..
Logan Davis
Graphics card are designed to break down right after 3 years of daily usage. That's why their warranty stand that short period of time.
Dominic Hall
can I get IPS with VA level contrast?
Gabriel Hill
>break down In what way? My GPU is coming up on 10 years old.
Elijah Sanders
proof? Because I have a 980Ti since launch date that still works. I also have a GT210, GT710, and a GTX550Ti. All of them still work. Maybe when you buy AMD garbage it's designed to break.
Samuel Reyes
I'm and I have an AMD card
Christopher Murphy
well then that other user is talking out of his ass.
Cooper Williams
Nope. Just wait 10 years for micro led or dual layer lcd to be affordable.
Colton Hill
what should I get in the mean time then? IPS 1440 144hz 27"?
Zachary Evans
convince me to not get a 9700k
Blake Lewis
I ordered one and it should arrive in about a week t. binland :DDD
Lincoln King
no
Jackson Russell
I can't convince you to not get 9700 vulnerabilities
Asher Phillips
So an i5-9400F + mobo at cheapest is 350$ and 380$ at most expensive
AMD 3600 + GIGABYTE B450 AORUS ELITE is 399
Is it really worth the additional dollars? can the mobo handle the new processor?
Gabriel Sanders
Yes. Unless you dont care about shooting and drving games. Like if you just like rpgs and rts, get a va
Jaxson Garcia
I only paid 370 for my 3700xt and mobo
Dominic Edwards
I live in a shithole country where all tech is overpriced
Colton Watson
They benchmark about the same, tbqh. In general, the 3600 does slightly better in games since they value single-core performance so much (which the 3600 does better than the 2700X). In multicore performance, the 2700X is slightly better.
It's really just going to depend on your use cases. But if you're willing to stomach some of the weirdness of Zen 2, that's probably the best move, I think.
Grayson Wilson
He will get a better deal overall taking the 3600 because microcenter
Connor Smith
just finished my first pc thanks guys
David Wright
Well the thing is that games on the newer consoles are supposedly going to be optimized for 8 cores right? I'm not looking to have to upgrade for a long while and Ryzen 2xxx seems like the best series of the 3 thus far as far as it's "just werks" ability out of the box. Plus I don't have to worry about BIOS nonsense. Is the 7% or so IPC increase really worth losing out on 2c4t?
Benjamin Bailey
Yeah I know I should upgrade the ram, but bought that set right as I decided to build a computer, got it locally off some fat fuck who sold it for 50 leafs. I didnt really think the speed would matter that much, as long as I had the 16gb capacity, it does have the xmp and oc potential too, so I can bank on that if needed. Might just upgrade when ddr5 32gb becomes standard. Still would appreciate reccs for the PSU and case though
I'm in need of new storage. One of my external hard drives just failed sadly, but it was pretty old. I've never set anything up, just plugged in externals.
I mostly download and seed from private trackers and have a tendency to never ever delete anything, so i need a lot. I also watch movies/shows from them.
What's the best way to go for the highest amount of storage with the best lifetime/reliability?
gonna buy a used Sapphire RX 570 4gb Pulse for $90 wish me luck bois (it has a store warranty of 1 month so i guess it's ayt to gamble on a card that might have been used for mining) ((not america so this is very cheap since a new RX 570 is $180 here)
Gavin Carter
What parts of your build do you refuse to step down on?
I've chosen to go 3600 over 3700x, willing to go from 2070S to used 1080 or 1070ti (I'm not a big gaymer), because 7nm EUV is on the horizon for the next generation of CPUs and GPUs.
But I refuse to budge on a 27GL850, unless something better at the same price comes out of nowhere before the end of the year.
Josiah White
Guys there was a very organized pastebin containing links to activate Windows.
Do you have one to get and activate MS Office without getting some malware?
Joshua Thomas
Boomer user please don't take the OP that seriously, it's usually done by literal mentally ill shills. If you want an "overkill" gaming CPU, get a 9700K or 9900K, Ryzen only exceeds at lower price points or productivity tasks.
It's not really worth considering a high end CPU until you have at least a 2070 Super or better.
Ethan Clark
Based, great choices user.
Jackson Peterson
Should I buy a Intel I7 5930k, MSI X99 Deluxe with 32 GB of DDR4 3000 Patriot Viper Memory used for 275?
Currently Running 2600k on a Z97 with 32 GB of ddr3.
Benjamin Roberts
Yes absolutely, that's a pretty nice rig for that money.
I want something relatively future proof for light gaming, emulation, and photoediting related work. I'd like it to be dead silent and under 800 where I can just upgrade the card later, might get a Quadro for the 10bit color in the meantime. What CPUs should I consider if I'm going cheap on everything else and may just overclock down the road?
Xavier Mitchell
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Logan Cook
>can't find a decent 2070 Super in Canuckistan, everything out of stock >has been for days >last part of my build I need
help
Gabriel Young
Rate and dont tell me to not get 1070ti and to get a 2060 instead, i already have that gpu ill switch it out to the new pc pcpartpicker.com/list/gs7JFt
Alexander Morales
I want to listen to the amd shills but the 5700 xt aib's are still sold out and some are still unavailable
-Fractal Design Focus G >Good... brand I guess? >ODD >Includes 2 fans >Can only install 2 fans on the front >56€
-Silentium Regnum RG4 >ODD >Includes 3 fans >Can install 3 fans on the front >Not so recognizable brand outside of a few european countries >58€ >Windowless version available for 53€
Which one should I pick /pcbg/?
John Flores
>CoolerMaster Masterbox MB511 seems like meshify c clone but cheaper definitely go with that one >its $40 US on newegg with rebate right now dang, that's quite a deal
Noah Hill
Yeah, a shame yuropoors like me can't enjoy such deals
Andrew Wood
Is the performance diff between 2200g and 3200g big, should i go with the newer 3200g
Charles Sanders
>being this gullible
Matthew Williams
the 2200g is just Ryzen 1xxx cores with 7 Vega units. The 3200g is just Ryzen 2xxx cores with the same 7 Vega units. Unless you're getting a killer deal on the 3200g, waste of money imo. I'd get a 2400g (4c8t) before a 3200g.
Christian Young
Which x470 has the usb flash bios option? Is there an easy chance for something to go wrong doing this ruining the motherboard? That's one reasons I don't want to go with amd.
Nathan Thompson
Phanteks evolv X
Lincoln Hernandez
only msi x470 boards have bios flashback
Noah Perry
No
Luis Carter
Which case would be better, Cooler Master NR600 or NZXT H500?
Leo King
Can't go wrong with the H500
Hudson Jones
Hi, thanks.
For 1080p? It's fine. For 1440p? You're better off with a 3900X. You can disable SMT and lock FCLK for the same/better gaming perf as the 9900k anyway.
That's only true of the ones with shitty coolers, as explained in the OP FAQ.
Get a CPU which uses less power and doesn't stutter.
... you're asking if it's worth $19 more for a combo that's as good as an i7-8700 and far above the 9400F. I don't know what to tell you. The only problem you might have is you need a local shop to update BIOS for you as AMD might not ship bootkits to your country.
for 50 bucks, it's probably fine. Just make sure you overclock it.
5700XT or 2080Ti.
>spending twice as much money for a ~15% performance increase Wow such a chad
You can get a 3600 and 16GB of memory for that price which is a lot better, minus the having half the RAM. But I presume you won't even use over 16GB. I'd pay maybe $200 for that, only because I'd throw a GPU and SSD in there to resell and not actually use.
It's like 7-10% dif. I'd get the 2400G instead, as I've seen them for around $105.
Jonathan Wood
A 3600 is not as good as an 8700K you absolutely retarded shill. Go away stockholder-kun.
