/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>Assemble a part list
pcpartpicker.com/
>Example gaming builds and monitor suggestions; click on titles above parts lists to see notes
pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/
>How to assemble a PC
youtube.com/watch?&v=IhX0fOUYd8Q [Open] [Open] [Open]

Want help?
>State budget & CURRENCY
>Post at least some attempt at a parts list
>List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)

CPUs based on current pricing:
>Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on most mobos with the right BIOS)
>R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming
>R5 2600 - Good gaming CPU with great value
>R5 3600 - Great gaming CPU
>I7 9700K/I9 9900K - Overkill gaming CPU
>R7 2700 - Budget video editing
>R9 3900X - Professional tasks

RAM:
>Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended
>CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3200CL16 is ideal
>AMD B and X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP

GPUs based on current pricing
1080p
>RX 570/580 8GB - Can be found on sale/used for cheap. Look for 570s which are >1240MHz boost
>(GTX 1660TI @ ~$230/Vega56 @ ~$270) - higher fps / more demanding games
>RX 5700 - higher FPS
1440p
>RX 5700 - standard, 75-100FPS+
>RX 5700XT - higher fps (wait for AIB partner availability)
2160p (4K)
>2080Ti - best for 4K but expensive
>2070 Super is a viable option in lieu of AIB 5700XT availability as long as you don't pay more than $500us

>Navi AIB models come this week. 5700 non-XT blower is alright, due to low power.

General:
>PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING
>Don't bother buying a new monitor for gaming unless it's high refresh with adaptive sync
>A 250GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor
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General
>Yes, adaptive sync (free/g/sync) is important for gaming
>NVMe isn't better than SATA SSD for gaming
>Don't use Speccy
>Don't trust sites which rank CPUs by arbitrary, obfuscated scores (eg userbenchmark, passmark, cpuboss)
>AM4 VRMs + Monitors + SSD Guide under "more"

more: rentry.co/pcbg-more

>CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 3200CL16 or Micron E-die ("AES" in P/N) recommended
>AMD B & X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP
>B-die is EOL, stock is limited

This a good monitor?

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can somebody explain to me how there are graphs that show the benefit of going 3200 to 3800 is not worth it for zen 2, but then at the same time there are reviewers who showed you can get like +20fps by doing custom timings

I5 9600k or r7 2700x?
I want to use it to emulate hopefully at 4k. I already bought a gtx1070 for 150usd

3000 with custom timing will make +10 fps which is comparable with 3600 with stock timings.

What happened with the 3700x that its no longer recommended?

just depends on which shill that makes the op, I hope nobody actually reads our ops

Intel fanboy edits.

3600 for gaming.

I currently own a gtx 970 back from 2015. I got a used 1440p144hz freesync monitor for 200€. Should I now upgrade to an AIB 5700 XT?

It would make sense if your CPU is able to deliver the frames.

>Should I now upgrade to an AIB 5700 XT?
if you can find one: yes

How are Zotac GPUs? I wanted to grab an EVGA card but they've been out of stock here for a few weeks now, and there's a Zotac 2070 Super Twin Fan in stock at my local retailer right now.

3600 should not be a problem for 1440p

>2070 super way overpriced
>5700xt somewhat overpriced and not available anywhere
Reeeeeeeeee

shit
worse than niggabyte

Not the best, but if you really need to get one at least get the Amp version

anyone else really like the look of these cards?

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They look cheap to me

Has a late 90's/early 2000's vibe. Makes me think of the see-through N64 and gameboys.

yea thats why I like it. reminds me of old video cards but modernized with that nice big heatsink

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it's comfy but I don't like the lights

>now, stalker

I prefer this design because it’s simplistic.
>inb4 MUH MSI

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Would a gigabyte X570 aorus elite be good enough for a 3900x and 4x8GB (3600 CL18) memory?

Real thread

>AIB 5700 XT
Do you have a noise proofed outbuilding you can put the PC in?

BROS IM SO CONFUSED I THINK ILL JUST ORDER A 2070 since you faggots won’t answer my questions wth anything but brand pragmatism

>fucked up miserably the yt video link
yeah no

Is the Deepcool Gammaxx 400 better than Wraith Stealth?

Should be enough. I would get a crosshair at the $300 price point but I’m sure you’ll be able to do so.

Hey Jow Forums, I have kind of a situation here. I'm grabbing a new case that includes a whole whopping 4 fucking fans (one of which is 140mm as an exhaust, 3x120mm as intake) and now I'm left with two extra 120mm fans that I could possibly install at the top (which can take another 3 fans) or not, no idea. Thing is I don't know if that would be actually worse for airflow. Should I install them as intake, exhaust or just leave them there gathering dust? Bought them earlier this year.

Can't argue with going with quality.

Overpriced. I just got a 2060 since I only have a 1080p monitor

>I THINK ILL JUST ORDER A 2070
not even the nvidia shill will thell you to get a non super 2070 over a 2070 super, let alone over a 5700xt

buy a 2080

Go GO GO

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I dunno, but I would be surprised if it wasn't considering AMD cheaped out on the 3000 version of the Spire, and the Steal is the same shit but even smaller.

>youtube.com/watch?v=Lfrdy3wG_g0

Jesus Christ why are gpus so EXPENSIVE

bitcoin and shitvidia

$540? Really? The 2070S is kinda close to it at a similar price.

Oh btw I use a tower cooler.

How do I submit a new score to the cpuz website? When I try to submit a new benchmark it just takes me to the page for my old one.

Because of Nvidia's dominance in the market. BUT RETARDS STILL KEEP BUYING. I personally can't wait to pay $1000 for my next mid-range gpu!

Use the ones that have either better static pressure if you use a dust filter, or just use the more quiet ones.

$1000 is entry level in the world of $3k titans lmao

Kinda true. I would buy a 2070s if I cared about RTX but Ray Tracing is a meme. I’ll get the 1080ti for now.

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I'd still buy new because I'd rather want the warranty.

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>tfw know that feel
REEEEEEEEEE

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The niggardly anions from last thread have inspired me to try to finesse Amazon and get an extra m.2 drive. I honestly think it might work cause the one I bought is a warehouse deal so I can say some shit about how it's not working and I might prosper

hard yikes at that price

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>all AIB 5700XTs were given to influencers or were sold out within the hour
>MFW

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go for it pal
it's not like if bezos would mind

fucking hell you're obsessed
seek help

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Kek if you think that’s overpriced look at the price for the 2080ti or the 1080ti over a year ago.

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Fuck off faggot

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Time to start a gaymen YouTube channel

I don’t get you faggots.
>don’t get a 2070 get a 2070 super

No SHIT. But the 2070s are $420ish.

So the question is 5700XT (where are those?) or 2060 Super for $400 instead.

I honestly think after 2 years the 2070/2060S will be cheaper than the Radeon anyway after you pay for the power difference

Seriously get help

>But the 2070s are $420ish.
where

Real thread.

Do your fucking jobs you stinky smelly pedo mods

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My local Best Buy trying to get rid of the useless 2070s nobody wants

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go for it then
hope it's not some RMA shit

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What’s RMA

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someone sending it back

It’s like 6 2070 founders sitting in there in the new section

Is the case itself supposed to be getting hot when under load?

Ok but I’m worried that next year they will drop a RX480 style card that resets the mid range pricing back to $130-$240. Would it be retarded to buy right now? I’m moderately annoyed with my performance but it’s tolerable. $500 for a midrange card Seems lame

seems fishy
it's your call

I'm sourcing a build right now and may as well just wait until next year in case prices drop so I don't have to sit on a placeholder shitcard.

Is it better to keep buying low end cards every 2 years or high end cards. High end boys how long have your top tier cards lasted you?

I’m about $300 spent on graphics cards over 5 years. How long would a 2080 last me to ‘justify’ the expense

I still can’t believe the Radeon VII hasn’t gone down in price. If it goes down at least $150 it’ll be very competitive.

mid range is the sweet spot for long cyclers

Around a $300 GPU should suffice for 3-5 years. That’s if you’re like me and only only care about 1080p.

They can’t manufacture it for that cheap actually which is why they stopped production. It’s pathetic though that the Radeon VII fags think they can sell their used ones for more than $400 now that 5700 XT is out and you can get a new one with warranty and be only slightly worse for the performance

I’m 4k 60 FPS esports titles. My 480 is just now starting to let me down on single player stuff. Has no issues with dota. It just needs more VRAM honestly for what I use it for.

Yeah but you have to go high mid or hope you don't end up deprecated by a better card in the same cycle. A better question is die shrink or performance increase cycle

Alright, I'm gonna finally bite the bullet and buy all this, does anyone know If these parts all fit? also is this motherboard the correct MORTAR that everyone says is good or is it a different one?

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>falling for the MSI meme

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No too sure about the motherboard. Does it have updated bios already with it?