How do we go about tackling the problem of censorship on social media?

>we aren't interested
speak for yourself

>Social media sites are not public spaces.
Yes, they are. Online, there's no other place to talk about stuff except social media.

>durrrrrrr!!!
Social media platforms are not liable for what gets posted on them because they are legally considered public platforms. If they curate the content posted, they are publishers, and publishers do not get the exemption.

>we aren't interested.
Ah of course rabbi - er, I mean, "fellow Jow Forums user". Totally agreed :^)

>jewish conspiracy
It's not a conspiracy. Like, at all.

>we aren't interested.
And we aren't interested in your propaganda you astroturfing Jew scum. The public is turning against you. And next time you aren't just getting kicked out.

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>there's no other place to talk about stuff except social media
Assuming you're talking about the mainstream shit like Facebook, Twitter and Instagram:
>forums of all kinds
>text and image boards
>IRC, Discord (even if it's putrid shit), Mumble and other chats
>alternatives to mainstream social networks like Telegram, Gab, Voat and Mastodon

>Social media sites are not public spaces.
fucking what? lmao

That's literally exactly what they are. Fuck off IDF drone

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>Social media sites are not public spaces
They absolutely are. There's no other place where the public can talk about whatever they want. Social media is about socializing. It is the online equivalent of being in public and talking to whoever you want. No other places online can do that for you. There should be a law saying that social media is the equivalent of speaking in a public space IRL and that laws online like free speech laws should extend to it because that is where the public is doing a lot of socializing these days.

This is just a modern law that should have become law when the first social media site was created.

You can think that Israeli shitfuckery is not acceptable without hating all Jews or thinking they are all in on some conspiracy.

>inside privately-owned facilities
Ah so a business' autonomy depends entirely on who they're refusing service to? A-okay to block whites from supporting white-defensive ideas, but totally unacceptable to block gay people from from supporting gay-defensive ideas.

Really jogged my noggin and activated those almonds

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I can't believe you're dumb enough to save that NPC shit on your computer and repost it. Delete your meme folder, leave the internet and never come back. And tell all your shitty discord friends to leave too.
That isn't even true.
I am not here to debate this with you, you are wrong. They aren't public platforms. No one is entitled to host you. Make your own site and you can kick out whoever you want.
No, maybe they try to imply that in their marketing, but they are lying to make money off of you. You are dumb enough to fall for it apparently.

Jews literally worship themselves as "god's chosen psychopaths"

You know none of those are equivalent and forum/message boards/image boards are private spaces that are allowed to practice censorship, unlike the social media giants like facebook/twitter, so they arent really alternatives.

>T-that's not true!!
Cope. Bake your own cake, faggot.

Nobody said anything about hating all Jews. I have Jewish friends who are extremely cautious about telling people they meet that they're Jewish, because they don't want to be associated with the anti-western, anti-white psychopaths that own and control the media and have insane amounts of influence over western politics.

The ones at the top use MY friends as human shields. They're hated by pretty much everyone, except their other (also) ultra-wealthy friends.

>n-nuh uh!
Lmao yikes. That works on reddit, maybe you should go back there, Israeli astroturfer.

"Oh no," he says, "I've been found out."

>>forums of all kinds
>>text and image boards
>>IRC, Discord (even if it's putrid shit), Mumble and other chats
Those are all interest-based and the last one is mostly private servers. Social media is about 1 thing: Socializing.

If your social media site is only about being social, you should unable to ban anybody unless they break a US law.

This is no different than the court ruling saying that Trump cannot block people from his Twitter. He is a public figure on a private company's server yet he is beholden to public laws on that private server.

I don't have anything else to say to you idiots because all you will do is insult me and call me faggot, jew, etc, learn to speak like a real person and not an NPC and we'll talk. I am white and don't even like facebook you dunces. But this will not stop you from thinking you know anything about me. Make your own goddamn website and stop begging them to host your low-effort NPC memes

No they aren't.

If I let people into my home and say they can have a discussion, that doesn't make it a public place. I can make whatever rules I want about what happens in my home and I can throw you out if you break them.

Jow Forums is "social" after a fact but they still have rules like "no porn on blue boards". It's no different for Facebook or YouTube. And there are plenty of places to talk about things online besides "social media" - from imageboards to irc, to newsgroups, to forums, chats etc...I find it more worrisome so many of you can't remember how the Internet worked prior to 2006 or whenecer the fuck Facebook arrived.

>S-stop calling me names!
Stop talking out of your ass then, retard. I think reddit might be more your speed.

>They aren't public platforms. No one is entitled to host you. Make your own site and you can kick out whoever you want.
This is something liberals say when conservatives are winning the public debate, so they can censor them.

A social media site like Twitter is the online equivalent of speaking to people IRL. It is how you have a voice online.

Anybody who denies this is a either a luddite or a lying liberal asshole. This is exactly how laws should work in 2019. There is no reason not to extend free speech to the internet, because that is where most people do their speaking now.

memo.cash

>Make your own goddamn website
This is literally a Jewish talking point anytime a white person gets censored.

Make arguments. But you can't, because you have to follow your script, because you're an astroturfer.

So phone companies can block all your communications if they determine they don't like what you're talking about on "their" infrastructure?

Contrary to what your life on the schoolyard has taught you, calling me names on the internet does not intimidate me and in fact just makes you look like a fool who cannot formulate arguments.

Porn isn't protected speech, fucktard -- "hate speech" is. You're making a misleading comparison. Look into obscenity laws.

You guys really, really need to update your scripts for Jow Forums. Pro tip: people on Reddit talk *drastically* differently than people on Jow Forums.

t. spreading legal FUD and being an uninformed asshat, in general

Just admit you're wrong, if only to yourself

>You know none of those are equivalent and forum/message boards/image boards are private spaces that are allowed to practice censorship
It's ok to ban people from places that are interest-based. If somebody is on a dog forum and he comes in there saying fuck dogs, he should be banned for the sake of furthering the interest of the forum.

However, places like Facebook, Twitter, etc, are not interest-based. They are only about socializing. They are the equivalent of having free speech IRL. There's no other way to speak to everybody online except social media like Facebook, reddit, twitter, etc so those sites must follow modern US laws that say free speech must be observed.

Ask Facebook and Twitter how much government funding they got. Ask them how much of the public infrastructure they depend on to reach people. This is how people communicate today and thus, they have to be beholden to the laws of that country.

they're shapeshifters man. they turn white to tell white people it's bad to serve your own interests, and then turn jewish to serve their own interests.

If they aren't public why are they subsidized by my fucking tax dollars?

I don't know or care what "liberal" or "conservative" means, I don't subscribe to your pathetic political theories, I don't even use twitter, take your shit somewhere else before you give the rest of us your disease.
What am I astroturfing for user? I already told you I don't like facebook. You're the one apparently BEGGING to be let back on that site acting like it's the pinnacle of society and you will die if you can't post your mspaint merchant memes there.

>Just admit you're wrong, if only to yourself
He's paid not to. Hell he probably doesn't have a choice, military service is mandatory in Israel.

Because your government is corrupt and you elected a con man in 2008, and then again in 2012, and now once more in 2016.

>If I let people into my home and say they can have a discussion
That's not the same as a public space you idiot. Or even Facebook. Those sites are inviting everybody to come in and socialize as they would in public, but they refuse to follow the same laws in public. They should be made to follow the same laws.

Phone companies are completely different and are specifically common carriers, not for opinions but for service. But yes, even they can block you if they get told you're pirating, hosting illegal content, or doing something in breach of TOS. This is to say nothing about net neutrality which is how things should be, but it was removed by jerks.

However none of this has to do with the discussion at hand. Telecoms are regarding publishers vs carriers or whatnot, but that is not the case with any social media site, much less one run by a private for profit endeavor

This. We must develop a concept of decentralized social network, that wouldnt allow one single company to have a monopoly on personal data, conversations, etc.

>Jow Forums is "social" after a fact but they still have rules like "no porn on blue boards".
1) Jow Forums is not social media. It is interest-based. Facebook is social media because the only point of it is to let people communicate aka socialize. If laws allow people to speak freely without being forced to be quiet, arrested or fined, the same should apply online because it is the online equivalent of speaking in public.

2) Porn isn't free speech. It is highly regulated from minors and cannot be posted in public due to indecency laws. If i cannot flash my dick in public, I also cannot post a huge picture of a naked man with his dick hanging out in TImes Square.

>Phone companies are completely different
Hahahaha, wow. Post discarded.

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>Phone companies are completely different
how fucking transparent can you get, seriously

I hate PragerU, but they have a very succinct video about Youtube and it's status as a public forum.

youtube.com/watch?v=d6C6_NVj964

Ok, I'm wrong. You should continue doing nothing and insulting me because it means you won't have to think and question your own beliefs. Is that what you want to hear?
>No arguments, make the same lame JIDF accusations as has been thrown around for years
Who exactly is reading from a script here? Stormniggers, not even once

>I don't even use twitter, take your shit somewhere else before you give the rest of us your disease.
Here's a concrete way to show you are wrong, Jew.

If a court can rule that President Trump cannot block people from his Twitter account because he is a public servant, isn't that the same thing as enforcing public laws on a private server? Twitter should say he can block anybody he wants because he is on their server, but yet public laws say he can't do block anybody. Therefore, the same thing can be done to Twitter as a whole. They should, as a whole, be subject to public US law. They should not be allowed to ban anybody from speaking within US law as they are a US company.

... people complain about facebook, google, twitter, reddit censorship, but dont want to migrate to the platforms where censorship is impossible

I don't know or care about him, he should be banned, impeached, put in jail along with Hilary, and then twitter should be shut down permanently. Make your own site if you want to say whatever you want and stop begging other people to accept you for your shitty beliefs.

Exactly go to voat or gab. No matter how much they seethe facebook, twitter, google these are companies. The only thing that's public space is things that belong to the government . They can and, will censor you if they don't like you. Even libertarians know this.

Facebook and Twitter are there exclusively to make money by gathering data and/or selling advertising. The fact you can socialize on them is secondary, a way to entice people. They are not a public space.

Again, they are not a public space. If you treat my living room as your primary place to go for socialization, that doesn't make it public - it's still my living room and under my rules, no matter if I invite people over openly etc.

In this analogy, Facebook and Twitter have put up painted backgrounds of the public park and changes their furniture to benches and the like, but it's still in their fucking house - it's your fault if you decide to go to Zuckerbergs faux park instead of the real one because everyone else does.

There is another discussion to be had about the conduct of social media companies, their role/power etc...and what is actually public, but none of these social media sites are public in the same way that the "cloud" isn't some mysterious ethereal location, it's other people's servers!

>Phone companies are completely different
If I cannot have my phone service shut off for saying nigger, I should not be able to be banned from Twitter for saying nigger because it is a public space and how people speak online.

Or are you liberals going to say the internet is not a public utility now?

Except in real life the person who doesn't serve the gay gets ruined unless they say sorry, pay a fine, and allow it from then on.

Facebook ought to face the same thing.

This entire thread has little to no technology discussion.

Maybe not all of them.

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But Twitter isn't a public space and isn't how people speak online. Nobody I know even uses it. You might have been able to argue this with facebook, but that is also not a public space and instead is an advertising service masquerading as a social forum.

The Internet is not the same thing as "a site on the internet" . You're not being banned from the internet, you're being banned from a single site if you fuck over it's rules.youre welcome to go elsewhere, or make your own.

To put it another way, under your ideology I should be able to go on Gab or Stormfront and talk about the inferiority of the white man, demand they support 56 genders and not make any microaggressions etc...all without getting banned?

But quite a bit of them. (This is a very small sample size)

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Just like many other threads on Jow Forums

Why do you have these images saved exactly?

The fact these websites can be accessed by anyone publicly around the world means they are public spaces. Legal definitions are out of sync with what's reality.

A private ftp server that isn't advertised with a password is more of a private space than a website anyone can make an account for free that's totally free and even gets free promotions from advertisers being like "like us on twitter and facebook"

I save a lot of things.

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So he can post them and you can save them too

Again, you are lying and idiotic.
> I’m not arguing
Proceeds to argue
> I’m done
Argues more.
> gets owner on idiotic points
Shifts goalposts.
And no, you cannot “do whatever you want” to a guest in your house. You cannot enslave, insult or otherwise abuse them. Also, if they establish residency, which they do in short order, you cannot just “kick them out.”
If you did house people without proper zoning and make money from it YOU would go to jail. Twitter calls themselves a public square. This is how they get around liability. Drop the stupidity you dumb fucking lolbertarian nigger cocksucker. You’re a disgrace to your failure of a father who hopefully died of stomach cancer for failing to raise you.

Have you ever asked yourself why or do you just not think about it and save whatever shit gets the most (You)s? Honest question.
Why would I save them?

>Why are black comedians allowed to be racist towards whites?
>Why are black comedians allowed to be racist towards jews?
>Why are gay journalists allowed to be bigoted against straight people?
>Why are female musicians allowed to be sexist towards men?
>Why are white journalists allowed to be racist towards blacks?
>Why are muslim newscasters allowed to be racist towards jews?
>Why are white loan officers allowed to be racist towards blacks?
And on and on and on and on. All stupid fucking questions, and the whole notion of being "allowed" is retarded. No one is stopping anyone from being racist, and the dumbest part is that most people who complain about being silenced in this regard, are only complaining because they feel they can't be racist themselves. Go and be racist, bigoted, prejudiced, or go and be tolerant, progressive, and multicultural. Just shut the fuck up about it and stop trying to convert people.

Random people on Twitter saying provocative shit has little to do with real world ideology, much less scale of it. it wouldn't be hard for me to make a collage like that "proving" any stereotype if I took the time . Go find a bunch of Hispanic named posts joking about or claiming to be lazy, find a bunch of actual Chinese propaganda about CNStrong etc..

So you can post them too. It's fun.

Before:
>get banned from some site
>move to a different one (or make another account on that site)
Now:
>get banned from some site
>REEEEEEEEEEEEE
You retards only are contributing to the centralization of internet with your rants and your unwillingness to use better alternatives.

Why is it fun? That desperate for (You)s?

Last I checked, you're not required to respond to me. You're allowed to just look at the images if you feel like it.

Why would I look at the images?

Extremely useful video. Also interesting because I didn't know much about it. And I fucking hate most of what PragerU teaches, by the way.

Watch this to learn what a "public space" vs "publisher" is: youtu.be/d6C6_NVj964

Pro tip: Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter are all public spaces, and free speech laws apply to them.

They will never do that. They're triggered and have to react. Because regardless of who it is, they want the last word to prove their point or to dismiss legitimate points.

>none of these people are banned from twitter
>literally every single one is still active, still verified, and all the tweets are still up
... what the fuck?

How is this allowed?

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Jimmies are rustled.

What the fuck are you on about? Instead of addressing the point, you throw up some strawman and go on a tirade about housing missing the point of the analogy entirely.

I'm going to assume since you've gotten to the name calling you have nothing more to say about the actual topic.

I will not be watching your youtube video as I don't use shitty sites like youtube. Summarize it if you think it's that important. Facebook, youtube, and twitter are not public spaces, they are advertising companies. Your socializing is permitted there as long as it makes them profit.

They aren't licking boots user. They're the ones wearing them.

just build your own lol!!

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>Begging facebook to not "deplatform" him
>Calls me bootlicker
Ironic

>gets proven wrong
>"nuh uh"
yikes

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>stonetoss
Don't post this here again.
It is perfect feasible to build your own despite what that cartoonist thinks.

>Don't post this here again.
"no"

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I will post it everywhere I fucking want, because to people without brain damage it easily shows that you're insane. EVEN BETTER if the person who made it makes your anus spontaneously weep semen.

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Visiting an image board and not looking at the images seems counter intuitive, user.

>haha look i'm shitposting and you can't stop me
That wasn't a request, child.
You are incapable of doing something basic like setting up a website, and reposting a comic that makes setting up a website seem like some kind of monumental task that no person is capable of doing just to push a contrived political point, and you accuse me of being insane and butthurt?

That is a very slanted representation. The difference between publishing / endorsement vs simply acting as a carrier / forum / user created content hosting is indeed important, but things are more granular . For instance, there is some moderation allowed even on the latter, without giving up the definition.

The issue is that some call a site that offers non-endorsed user created content a "public space" is not accurate in that it has never had the same properties of a real world "public space/ square" . There needs to be a better distinction in the vernacular

You know the public is turning against Jews like you, right?

Even Jews not involved with the media are turning against you. Everyone is noticing what you're doing, and none of them like it.

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>there is some moderation allowed even on the latter, without giving up the definition.
Show me in the bill exactly where it says "public spaces must allow for free speech *except* if you don't agree with it then you can censor it lol"

These shitty stormnigger scare tactics won't work on me, and I'm not jewish. Get a new bit, yours was old years ago before Jow Forums even existed

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Why would I look at a bunch of images that are not technology when this is the technology board?