ATTENTION: Graphics card prices are excessive by historical standards; therefore, consumers should delay or completely forgo any midrange to high end graphics card purchases. The gouging has two root causes: lack of market competition and shortage/"new normal" pricing during the mining hayday.
Want help? >State budget & CURRENCY >Post at least some attempt at a parts list >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs based on current pricing: >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on most mobos with the right BIOS) >R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming >R5 2600/X - Good gaming CPU with great value >R5 3600 - Great gaming CPU >R7 2700 - Budget video editing >R9 3900X - Professional tasks
RAM: >Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended >CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3200CL16 is ideal >AMD B and X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP
Graphics cards based on current pricing: >AAA or multiplatform games: Radeon card appropriate for your montior >PC centric or VR games: Nvidia card appropriate for your display >Used RX 570s can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty 1080p 16:9 >RX 570 8GB - good performance with great value >GTX 1660 - standard
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >Don't bother buying a new monitor for gaming unless it's high refresh with adaptive sync >A 250GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor >Bottleneck checkers are worthless
stop linking that PC build guide video, it's trash
Levi Murphy
>2070 super FE finally back in stock >but they've increased the price from £475 to £489 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Now I'm right back to square one, looking at how much cheaper the 5700xt is for only slightly less performance. £380 for a blower 5700xt (since I'm going to eventually water cool anyway) makes the 2070s 29% more expensive now. Can I still justify that?
Sebastian Harris
You need to add the cost for a block too.
Easton King
>red devil at 550 eur fucking scalpers
Angel Thomas
>FE literally why?
Christopher Gutierrez
>finally replace my 6 years old system >waiting for asus 5700 models >give up and go with the sapphire pulse instead >Meshify C is out of stock EVERYWHERE in the EU Man, I wanted to avoid having to build this in my old case, it's so bad to build in.
Aaron Jones
If you're going with water, which has better potential for overclocking? I seem to remember someone saying the 5700xt is fairly limited in how far it can be pushed over stock, but I don't really know how that compares to the 2070 super (if true).
Levi Wright
2060 Super or 5700? They're exactly the same price in my country
Jackson Cox
Why pay extra for an AIO fan if it's going to be replaced by a water block anyway?
Jayden Torres
*AIB
Aaron Cook
Ok /pcbg/ shill me your best monitor with these specs: - 27" - 144hz - freesync - vesa mount - TN VA IPS all ok, quality over tech - €600 max
Juan Brooks
fractal meshify c
Jacob Evans
The new LG NanoIPS
27" IPS panel 144hz Freesync (but G-sync certified) 100x100mm VESA mount $499 USD.
Also has 2-3ms G2G (though it claims 1ms, that's only with the fastest preset that has a ton of overshoot) Still THE fastest IPS panel for pixel response times currently on the market.
Ryan Bell
It's not an actual guide, more like a meme/it's legos than anything else
Michael Evans
Either that new LG nano IPS monitor or the Aorus AD27QD that came out this past year. Based on reviews the LG panel has great response times and color but really bad contrast, whereas the Aorus has better contrast but a bit worse response times. The overdrive settings also seem to be giving some people problems. The LG is out of stock everywhere so you're probably gonna be waiting a while for that.
Aaron Hughes
has anyone tried putting on the chromax corner pads on the regular tan noctua fans? I was thinking of maybe getting a set of white or grey to soften the looks a bit compared to the brown corners they normally come with
Jonathan Bell
it goes back in-stock on amazon regularly.
I've seen it pop up 4 times in the last 2 weeks, though it sells out VERY quickly.
David Wood
Any recommendations on software for monitoring System Temps such as CPU and shit? Cooler is getting to the point it may shit the bed and I wanna know when its coming so i can get a new one.
Jonathan Watson
>but really bad contrast It's not really bad contrast though, it's 850:1, which is pretty standard for an IPS panel, there are some that will hit around 1000:1, but 850:1 is still pretty common if you look at various IPS panels from the last year or two, many will be in a similar range around 800-900:1.
The AD27QD is one of the few IPS panels that actually manages 1100:1 static contrast, and as you said, it makes up for it with much slower pixel response.
Carson Mitchell
not budget boy you are replying to, but ive been eyeballing the 32 inch freesync VA panel. How would it fare compared to the nano IPS?
>>ATTENTION: Graphics card prices are excessive by historical standards; therefore, consumers should delay or completely forgo any midrange to high end graphics card purchases. The gouging has two root causes: lack of market competition and shortage/"new normal" pricing during the mining hayday.
Should also add this "due to no point in upgrading cause new games are shit or you don't play new games anymore"
Carter Thomas
Tips for getting a black gf?
Jeremiah Smith
For a $500 IPS monitor that's pretty poor. Going off of tftcentral's review it has one of the lowest contrast ratios of all the IPS monitors they've reviewed. Not as bad as some TN panels but still. Hell, even rtings mentioned that the contrast was really subpar for an IPS panel on their review.
I'm fucking glad I'm out of the gaming scene. No more having to pluck down $200 or more for a quality card to get high fps and quality from new titles when they come out.
Can kick back and enjoy my existing games and save my cash for other shit. Games are shit anymore. Either re-hashes of what's been done or "remakes" of classics but they totally fuck them up so the end result is nothing like the classic game its based on.
well intel doesn't exist anymore but the waiting and the scares pushed me away from the 5700.
Samuel Phillips
Picking an AMD cpu was an easy choice. The GPU decision is proving much harder.
Julian Fisher
I wanted to but then I got a free i9.
Matthew Ortiz
are curved monitors a good or bad meme?
Lucas Lopez
I've ordered an ultrawide, so I'm hoping for good meme.
Xavier Long
at 27" or under you basically don't notice it.
For larger panels it becomes more noticeable but is only really needed for ultrawide panels, especially larger ones.
Christopher Bell
I kind of like it, I keep going between light blue and white but it looks stupid when it says red devil
Aiden Stewart
pulse is great, quieter than my strix 1070 was
Joseph Adams
I have this old lady in my built along with an i5 2500k running on a piece of shit Asrock Z68 Pro3 Mainboard.
Would updating to a newer GPU result in better gaming experience or would I need to update the whole system? What GPU would you recommend? I don't want to spend more than 200 bucks on this.
Cont Thanks kurahen user from I guess that's finally a wrap With some suggestions I've dropped from 3239PLN(814 USD) to 2449(616USD) My use case is focused 1080@60 as I got used to it and I don't see any reasons to go higher I would occasionally connect to 4K screen to play some racing games (Dirt Rally) or play some videos
ASRock Phantom Gaming D Radeon RX570 8GB GDDR6 (Phantom G D Radeon RX570 8G OC) 729,27 zł Note: Other polish user was convincing me to buy 5700 however this is twice the current GPU. Plus it would be overkill for 1080@60 as seen on multiple YT videos. According to reviews it is NOT noisy (unlikely to sapphire).
Freebies: - Hitachi 3TB HDD from old server. Good for porn storage and such - Some used 1080 screens
Xavier Jackson
I do not like tweaking CPUs, it gets me top 6 core perf out of box.
Charles Kelly
how does the GTX 1660 compare to AMD Vega series? on gpu.userbenchmark.com AMD seems to provide more performance for value
Jacob Reed
What's the best nvidia gpu for 1080p 144hz at high/ultra right now?
Camden Garcia
AMD's shit compatibility with older windows games makes AMD a tough recommendation unless you know for a fact the games you play are fine with AMD drivers.
Nathaniel Sanders
rule of thumb: do not get vega unless no other monetary choice
John Torres
hi, you are still fervently pushing this meme? good on you, lad, memes don't make themselves
Colton Cook
lmao, by AMDs own admission, they wont be fixing older titles that they break with driver updates, so why the fuck do you insist it's a meme?
Cooper Martinez
honestly vega isn't the best series of gpu that amd made unless you have a very beefy PSU to sustain the massive Watt spikes get a 5700 instead
Carter Flores
He claimed he had a $200 budget, the 5700 blows that out of the water. Cheapest ones are $150 above his budget.
Carter Kelly
because you are lying shill and i'm tired of you. you are right about KOTOR though, give you that
Brandon Thomas
a shit well maybe a 590 could do
Jeremiah Allen
Nice
Jeremiah Hall
For a second I imaginated the stupid card actually saying "RED DEVIL" on a shitty toy like speaker with an edgy voice, hahahaha
Ryder Clark
not him but >you are a lying shill even tho you made a solid point about amd having lesser support on older games do you even read yourself
Leo Hill
I'm a lying shill, but i'm also right. Lmao okay whatever you say shill.
I had an HD 5770, a 7950, and an RX 260 (in a different build from the HD 7950).
But i've since moved to Nvidia GPUs due to better power draw, and better support for older titles.
I personally play KOTOR about once a year, a full playthrough. And other older games get played frequently enough where i don't want to rely on a lottery to hope AMD hasn't fucked another older game I want to play.
Jose Butler
>3900x out of stock >3950x is about to release rev up those F5 keys boys, cause we're in for a race
James Collins
1 good point and 3 false points. tw1 - false quantum break - false sacrifice - false and he has no other points because it's the only games nvidia marketing could find that misbehave
Josiah Green
>ATTENTION: Graphics card prices are excessive by historical standards; therefore, consumers should delay or completely forgo any midrange to high end graphics card purchases. The gouging has two root causes: lack of market competition and shortage/"new normal" pricing during the mining hayday. based
Alexander Allen
You're confusing me for someone else, just so you know.
I don't have or play any of those games
Ryan Gray
there's only going to be 10 3950x's available for purchase in september, the next 10 will be available in october, and then another 5 in december
Chase Jackson
I chuckled.
Gavin Lopez
well he's not wrong by any means, but these shitty practices doesnt justify over 60% increased price in your GPU for less than 10% boosts
Samuel Ward
Any news on when GPU prices may drop?
Joshua Collins
It's still a question of "if" as much as "when".
Hudson Phillips
they'll drop if amd releases something juicy this fall, and again next year. there will also be some major sales.
Asher Roberts
Should I wait for black friday/cyber monday deals to finally pull the trigger on my build? Do you really think we are gonna see any deals on 8gb gpu's?
Also final question, to anyone who got pc parts during last year BF/CM, is it true they were cheap because they used refurbished parts but sold as brand new? Can someone confirm this?
3900x is rejected 3950x, the 3950x did not score that many bad ccx so rev up your engines.
Blake Sanders
>just finished assembling my first pc >mobo doesn't post time to kms
Christian Young
Anyone?
Julian Long
based
Kevin Miller
even the 2080 ti can't get every game to 144fps on ultra
Connor Flores
if you can wait you should probably wait, there's always tons of deals and you would save money on a lot of parts if you want to but then again it's always a clusterfuck shopping on those days and stock runs out on the best deals so who knows
Luis Rodriguez
i just blew 1k eurodollars on parts and this post gives me the cold sweats
here's hoping i don't retard it up when i start building
Brandon Perry
Vega 56 is around 40% faster than the 1660. Don't use userbenchmark. The downside of vega is though the average power consumption could be worse, it does spike so you need a good PSU that doesn't shut down just because it's over current for 10ms. I ran mine perfectly fine on a 600W but others with really bad 600W PSUs could get random shutdowns.
They just dropped when Navi released. Don't know what else you're expecting.
590 is fine if you get it significantly cheaper than the 1660. Like AT LEAST 15% cheaper is ok. Performs about 5% worse, but also uses a lot more power. Vega is actually more efficient.
Logan Richardson
fuck up the cpu pins fuck up putting on the heatsink don't insert something all the way (ram, gpu, power cable, fan cable, etc) use the wrong ram slots or pci slots
these are the main fuckups
Evan Reed
can someone give me that troubleshoot flowchart for motherboards?
Sebastian Lewis
>wait for threadripper or buy 3950x boys I'm waking up at night in cold sweats over this decision