ATTENTION: Graphics card prices are excessive by historical standards; therefore, consumers should delay or completely forgo any midrange to high end graphics card purchases. The gouging has two root causes: lack of market competition and shortage/"new normal" pricing during the mining hayday.
Want help? >State budget & CURRENCY >Post at least some attempt at a parts list >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs based on current pricing: >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on most mobos with the right BIOS) >R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming >R5 2600/X - Good gaming CPU with great value >R5 3600 - Great gaming CPU >R7 2700 - Budget video editing >R9 3900X - Professional tasks
RAM: >Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended >CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3200CL16 is ideal >AMD B and X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP
Graphics cards based on current pricing: >AAA or multiplatform games: Radeon card appropriate for your montior >PC centric games, VR games, or ray tracing: Nvidia card appropriate for your display >Used RX 570s can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty 1080p 16:9 >RX 570 8GB - good performance with great value >GTX 1660 - standard
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >Don't bother buying a new monitor for gaming unless it's high refresh with adaptive sync >A 250GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor >Bottleneck checkers are worthless
will do some programming/ gaming on it, tried to stay on the budget side thoughts?
Zachary Baker
Pic related
Agreed, although I think 6c/6t vs 6c/12t is likely to be less drastic than 4c/4t vs 6c/12t. Really depends on what happens with devs/engines/req after new consoles get Zen2
Is 3600Mhz really worth it for ryzen? I'm aiming for 32GB, which seems to really drive the price up, but the performance benefit compared to 3200Mhz doesn't seem that significant.
Then there's all the talk of overclocking, but finding the right dies is a challenge in itself.
Gavin Powell
>ATTENTION: Graphics card prices are excessive by historical standards; therefore, consumers should delay or completely forgo any midrange to high end graphics card purchases. The gouging has two root causes: lack of market competition and shortage/"new normal" pricing during the mining hayday. based
Xavier Cruz
Elaborate.
Levi Russell
nigger
Alexander Long
>which seems to really drive the price up
Get some Micron (Crucial) rev. E (E-Die) DIMMs and OC them. No reason to go for some expensive meme kits.
It's even Buildzoid approved :^)
Levi White
>It doesn't. >I just wanted 9 fans. absolutely based
I have option to get a vanilla red MSI GTX 1080 for 400 Euros or an RTX 2070 SUPER VENTUS OC (why the fuck are those names all caps?) for 500 what should I do?
Case thermals is blowing my mind, I bought both the Meshify C and H500 and after fucking around with the fans, the mesh front and top of the Meshify C just doesn't make any difference. The CPU is like 2-3 degrees cooler in the Meshify C, and the GPU is 2-3 degrees hotter.
I don't know how, but the tiny little front/top intake compared on the H500 compared to the entire mesh front/top of the Meshify C seems to do just as good.
Isaac Gomez
Probably neither because a 6GB 2060 is the same perf as a 1080 and the 2070 has been replaced by the 8GB 2060 Super
Jordan Mitchell
2070 Super, not vanilla 2070
Brandon Scott
This is the encouragement I needed not to buy one one of those ugly ass mid 2000s looking ratchet cases
I'm buying an H500 as we speak
Fuck you guys
Alexander Walker
Yeah kind in my I'm cooling with an air cooler, I have no idea how it would be with a radiator, in both cases you need to mount the radiator in the front which theoretically should be better in the Meshify C as far as I understand.
The H500 looks better so I will keep that, though the Meshify C has slightly better fans so keep that in mind. Personally I already have Silent Wings 3 custom fans so I wouldn't use stock fans either way.
Logan Edwards
In that case the 2070 Super. A 1080 at 400e is just crazy
Connor Nelson
keep in mind*
Also my CPU is a 9900k and 1070 GPU for reference.
we're in the middle of an edit war, there's a bunch of changes that could and probably should be made but you'd have to convince the guys at war to do it
Eli Williams
Nice resource but pcpartpicker calculates the wattage for you (upper right hand corner of build)
Austin Turner
Is upgrading to a 75hz 1440p freesync monitor worth it from 60hz 1080p with my current hardware? I'm running an ryzen 3600 and vega 56, I'm worried I'd have to upgrade my GPU or suffer sub 60 frames.
Robert Cooper
>75hz No, >95Hz or bust, preferably >120Hz so that you're not locked to one graphics card vendor
Gavin Lewis
Do anyone has the list of upcoming monitors? Im interested in 240hz/2k specs.
Adrian Hughes
h500 and its variants are based
Dominic Richardson
anyone got the msi mech oc 5700? how is it?
Hudson Perry
>120Hz so that you're not locked to one graphics card vendor What do you mean?
Jonathan Johnson
I forgot to mention that the new monitor would be IPS as opposed to TN.
How's this for pure gaming. No streaming, no flashy LED's. Just want a nice PC to last me 5+ years. Mainly play shit like PoE, WoW, occasional AAA new release.
Basis of design was around the 3600 & 5700xt combo, coupled with the 144hz 1440p monitor.
Things I'm not dead set on are RAM, Mobo, SSDs. Basically just been watching other peoples pickers and selected things I thought were reasonable. Open to suggestions.
The fans are because it gets fucking hot in Australian summer and I don't want it too noisy. Was planning to replace the stock case fans.
Additional question I have an ASUS PCE-AC56 wireless PCI-E card I want to reuse to save me from having to get a wireless mobo. Will that fit in this build? Or should I just pay more for a wireless mobo?
I'd say my total budget would be the $3k mark including that monitor, happy to spend more if it's reasonable but obviously if less that's better.
Isaiah Young
HOLY SHIT WHY IS IT SO EXPENSIVE
Lincoln Evans
Australia :( the land of cunts
Brayden Rogers
looks like a very good build, I wouldn't change much except if you can find better deals on something regionally cheaper
Nicholas Ross
Looks good my dude
Juan Rogers
a-anyone?
Gavin Thomas
Waitfag or buyfag?
Anthony Thomas
Thanks, any thoughts on the PCI-E wifi card fitting? I'm not sure how it all goes with the GPU and the NVME stick etc
Angel Clark
I'm waiting for the 3950x then also maybe waiting for threadripper and then buypigging hard
Elijah Young
Nvida framedoubles at less than 55FPS and AMD framedoubles at less than 48FPS. Anything less than 95Hz can't get LFC from AMD, and anything less than 110 can't get LFC from Nvidia. AFAIK the closest standard monitor Hz greater than 110 would be 120
Chase Roberts
it should usually fit, but I would recommend getting a wifi motherboard if you're willing. you can save a lot of headaches. I'm biased because I had a wifi card die and prevent my computer from booting that took almost a week to diagnose, because I couldn't believe the wifi card could crash a whole system but it did.
Ethan Garcia
Wait for Intel 10th Gen
Austin Kelly
Is the guy that wanted his sacrifice gog testing on 5700xt here?
Nathan Nelson
sitting on 3900x, got lucky and received it 20th august instead of today.
Jaxon Kelly
Even if he's not, post your results anyway
Eli Diaz
post your results every day for a few weeks and also argue with everybody
Lucas Powell
literally my setup everything works perfectly and that monitor is fantastic
Zachary Turner
Unless prices come down it seems like you can get a 2070 or maybe even 2070s for fucking cheaper by Black Friday. I’m doing whatever is cheapest
Christopher Watson
I doubt super series are gonna fall in price but 2070 and 2080 fill 100% fall, especially since 2080 stopped production if I'm not mistaken? Either way, 2080>2070s but I'd still personally go for better cooling on those cards then to go for something like msi ventus
Jordan Johnson
alright this is what i got 5700xt pulse latest drivers 19.9.1 windows ltsc r5 2600 3200mhz cl16
don't know if this is good or not but the first part i spinned the camera 360° then i ran straight line until the end of capture
do you have a use case? then it's fine otherwise it's a meme
Landon Campbell
no, but IPS is
Dylan Garcia
Thinking about buying a 2060, what is the best monitor for it? A 1440p monitor?
William Green
don't know much about the game to have a reference it didn't stutter but the frames seemed locked at 25 also the sky was going all white from time to time not sure if glitch or if it was representing the thunder it was on tutorial 1 btw
Cameron Morgan
>BX500 no
Nathaniel Barnes
What are the lowest clock and voltages you should get on a 3900x ON WINDOWS ON IDLE?
Joshua Carter
If you are talking about physical dimensions it will obviously fit, if you are talking about bandwith or shared lanes. The M2/nvme slot and the GPU slots do not share bandwith, and the PCIE x1 for the network card does not either.
Cooper Sullivan
4K, it's more cinematic.
Adrian Lee
>mfw don't want to get a 144hz monitor as that would mean by gpu would have to run much harder and therefore hotter/louder
Asher Lee
just done testing generals zero hour the skirmish works here's proof
>cinematic why, because it's gonna be running at a lower frame rate?
Camden Brown
>i can predict the future
Kayden Taylor
unironically I went from TN to IPS and I don't have to wear polarized glasses nor do I have eye strains and headaches.
Nicholas Smith
27GL850
From what I've heard, depends on what software you're using to monitor
Nicholas Foster
alright here's a problem when you alt tab with c&c general the whole screen is frozen and although apps are running the only way to unfreeze is to sign out or restart computer alt+F4 doesn't work
no, your pc is infected with a virus. you should reeeinstall win10, or even better install gnu/linux. that should solve your problem.
Samuel Rogers
well it was gtx460, haven't installed on the new system yet. It depends on the version, some torrents worked for me, some didn't, for example yuris revenge from cd the first decade edition runs without a problem and I can even alt tab, some torrent yuris revenge had problems from the start and my first decade cnc generals simply didn't want to run even after patching. I think it's game and OS related not just amd related, but I could be talking out of my ass. I experienced same problems on r7 370 and gtx 460 with yuris revenge.
Ryder Ortiz
I have an i7-3930k.
Should I wait for R9-3950X for the sweet 20 compute units gains, or should I go with r9-3900X and hope the difference is not that big?
Logan Martin
buy a 9700k like a normal person.
Jaxson Parker
tried c&c generals non-zero hour skirmish works and campaign work
Ian Gray
I couldn't take the wait anymore I bought a 2070 super I'm really looking forward to playing Minecraft on a $700 card
Lucas Walker
But Intel's security holes make it slow. That's why I think 3900X may be comparable.
Not to mention that R9>i7
Aaron Bennett
I'm waiting >intel garbage
Jaxon Gray
will try kotor1 GOG what is it i should look for again?
Camden Williams
Is it worth keeping the 1080ti at this generation?
Josiah Peterson
Frame Buffer Effects/Soft Shadows in options, I don't think you have to try it out since it's grayed out. Kotor1 works on amd cards but with those options constantly turned off, unless there is a community patch somewhere
>ATTENTION: Graphics card prices are excessive by historical standards; therefore, consumers should delay or completely forgo any midrange to high end graphics card purchases. The gouging has two root causes: lack of market competition and shortage/"new normal" pricing during the mining hayday.
Lincoln Lewis
big yes, 1080ti is great for pretty much anything you throw at it
Gavin Davis
>2070 super which one? I could buy the MSI Ventus for 500 Euro right now, but I read people claim it has shitty heatsink
Ayden Sanchez
What's the best CPU cooler for a Corsair 100R? Is the 100R a good case?