/pcbg/ - PC Building General

ATTENTION: Graphics card prices are excessive by historical standards; therefore, consumers should delay or completely forgo any midrange to high end graphics card purchases. The gouging has two root causes: lack of market competition and shortage/"new normal" pricing during the mining hayday.

>Assemble a part list
pcpartpicker.com/
>Example gaming builds and monitor suggestions; click on titles above parts lists to see notes
pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/
>How to non-technically assemble a PC
youtube.com/watch?v=69WFt6_dF8g

Want help?
>State budget & CURRENCY
>Post at least some attempt at a parts list
>List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)

CPUs based on current pricing:
>Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on most mobos with the right BIOS)
>R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming
>R5 2600/X - Good gaming CPU with great value
>R5 3600 - Great gaming CPU
>R7 2700 - Budget video editing
>R9 3900X - Professional tasks

RAM:
>Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended
>CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3200CL16 is ideal
>AMD B and X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP

Graphics cards based on current pricing:
>AAA or multiplatform games: Radeon card appropriate for your montior
>PC centric games, VR games, or ray tracing: Nvidia card appropriate for your display
>Used RX 570s can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty
1080p 16:9
>RX 570 8GB - good performance with great value
>GTX 1660 - standard

General:
>PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING
>Don't bother buying a new monitor for gaming unless it's high refresh with adaptive sync
>A 250GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor
>Bottleneck checkers are worthless

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techpowerup.com/257201/bios-rom-size-limitations-almost-derail-amds-zen2-backwards-compatibility-promise
asrock.pc.cdn.bitgravity.com/Manual/790GX Pro.pdf
pcpartpicker.com/list/gckXmq
ebay.com/p/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-965m-Graphics-GPU-Card-N16e-gr-4gb-Mxm3-0a-Half-Size-for-8570/2196534114
amazon.com/CORSAIR-TX550M-Certified-Modular-Renewed/dp/B07RWL8TVH/
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is it worth it to upgrade to zen 2 if I had first gen ryzen? Going to pair the cpu with a 2080.

If you're not at 4K, yeah

So if I work real hard for 8 months I can afford this
I earn 180 USD a month (CLP)
I will use it primarily for Photo editing, Illustration, Videogames and some video editing

I've never done anything like that so consider me a 100% noob

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Forgot to ask about some changes or corrections

Yes. zen and zen+ are worse than haswell in singlethreaded tasks whereas zen2 performs nearly at the level of skylake.

if by zen 2 you meant zen 3rd gen and making the jump from 1st to 3rd then yes its worth it
while 2nd gen sees a jump, its not that big compared to 1st to 3rd

I got some water on my CPU will it be OK?

why are motherboards for zen2 CPUs so trash? most of them are for zen1 with bios update for zen2 and people say they have problems making it work with anything better than r5 3600. Also the bios rom issue, since most boards are 16mb they had to remove bios code to find space to support zen2. techpowerup.com/257201/bios-rom-size-limitations-almost-derail-amds-zen2-backwards-compatibility-promise

is there any budget zen2 motherboard, not bios-updated zen1?
There is B450 Tomahawk Max, which is Tomahawk but with 32mb rom instead of 16mb, which is nice, but it's nowhere as popular as other b450 so i doubt they'll be updated, but if there is nothing better then i'll get it.

Will SATA SSDs become obsolete?
How will we mount a dozen NVME drives without blocking the view of our GPU in horizontally oriented motherboards?