ATTENTION: Graphics card prices are excessive by historical standards; therefore, consumers should delay or completely forgo any midrange to high end graphics card purchases. The gouging has two root causes: lack of market competition and shortage/"new normal" pricing during the mining hayday.
Want help? >State budget & CURRENCY >Post at least some attempt at a parts list >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs based on current pricing: >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on most mobos with the right BIOS) >R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming >R5 2600/X - Good gaming CPU with great value >R5 3600 - Great gaming CPU >R7 2700 - Budget video editing >R9 3900X - Professional tasks
RAM: >Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended >CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3200CL16 is ideal >AMD B and X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP
Graphics cards based on current pricing: >AAA or multiplatform games: Radeon card appropriate for your montior >PC centric games, VR games, or ray tracing: Nvidia card appropriate for your display >Used RX 570s can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty 1080p 16:9 >RX 570 8GB - good performance with great value >GTX 1660 - standard
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >Don't bother buying a new monitor for gaming unless it's high refresh with adaptive sync >A 250GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor >Bottleneck checkers are worthless
is it worth it to upgrade to zen 2 if I had first gen ryzen? Going to pair the cpu with a 2080.
Joseph Brown
If you're not at 4K, yeah
Aiden Ross
So if I work real hard for 8 months I can afford this I earn 180 USD a month (CLP) I will use it primarily for Photo editing, Illustration, Videogames and some video editing
I've never done anything like that so consider me a 100% noob
Yes. zen and zen+ are worse than haswell in singlethreaded tasks whereas zen2 performs nearly at the level of skylake.
Oliver Howard
if by zen 2 you meant zen 3rd gen and making the jump from 1st to 3rd then yes its worth it while 2nd gen sees a jump, its not that big compared to 1st to 3rd
is there any budget zen2 motherboard, not bios-updated zen1? There is B450 Tomahawk Max, which is Tomahawk but with 32mb rom instead of 16mb, which is nice, but it's nowhere as popular as other b450 so i doubt they'll be updated, but if there is nothing better then i'll get it.
Jack Torres
Will SATA SSDs become obsolete? How will we mount a dozen NVME drives without blocking the view of our GPU in horizontally oriented motherboards?
Chase Sanders
How is the reliability of cheaper SSDs like Adata and Silicon Power? Should I just spend the extra $15-20 on Sandisk or WD? This is just for an HTPC.
Grayson Nguyen
alright i'm back for more 5700xt testing if the sacrifice guy is here let me know
here's another sacrifice test tutorial one again again i spin during the first portion then i run in a straight line this time i put all settings on low but i still can't seem to hit more than 60 fps, is the game framelocked by default?
I have an X470 board with a 3700X and it works fine, but it was a bit buggy in the beginning. After a BIOS update and CMOS clearing, it's working fine. In the beginning I was getting very high idle voltage (over 1.5V) and it kept BSODing when gaming for more than an hour. People keep saying that high idle voltage is normal but that is NOT true. If it were true, then why is my idle voltage low now.
The whole Zen 2 release has been a shit show. I think AMD pushed too hard to get the chips rolled out for their "7nm on 7/7" marketing and really it should have been delayed a month or two. AMD is paying the price now because people trust the brand a bit less, especially with the boost clock drama right now.
Ryan Anderson
if you know you can get it paid off in 8 months anyway finance it as long as you can get a good interest rate
Austin Jenkins
I'm trying to fix an old PC my brother built and I'm new to this so I'm just gonna ask here It's got an Asrock 790GX Pro motherboard.: asrock.pc.cdn.bitgravity.com/Manual/790GX Pro.pdf The display does not work unless the video card (which is some brand called "HIS") is removed. When you slot it back in, the HDMI ports on both the motherboard and the video card give "No signal"
Is the video card fucked and if so should I replace it or start a new PC? I can't be bothered to look into electronics recycling guidelines and I'd rather just fix this shit. I just need to be sure replacing the video card will actually fix it or if the motherboard interface itself might be broken somehow
Robert Bailey
if i just slap an RTX 2070 into this will i be good for 5 more years? or should i consider a new CPU/motherboard/ram in the next year or so? temps are not idle and asus motherboards suck so trying to clock the ram to its normal speed results in horrible system stability at least when using the "xmp profile"
wait for 3070. fuck the 2070 and 2080 only having 8gb of vram
Leo Cruz
ok but just slapping in a 3070 should do me?
Xavier Perry
Id like a computer for 3d modeling. According to the blender website the recommended specs are 4gb videocard, 16gb of ram and a quad core processor. My budget is $600 what should i get?
Joseph Cox
I have 3000CL15 micron E die ram (Ryzen 3600). Do I even bother with trying to mess with clockspeed/timings, or should I just leave it at XMP?
Luke Reyes
Your 6700k might start showing some serious age, especially if you run 144hz, which are starting to get cheap and popular.
Logan Young
An increased budget and higher expectations
Evan Butler
The problem with XMP and Ryzen is that on some boards it just doesn't work. If turning on XMP gives you the full 3000mhz at cl15, then I see no reason to disable and manually tweak. If you find that XMP isn't giving you the proper 3000mhz/cl15, you will need to use the Ryzen dram calculator.
Daniel Baker
I screwed my cpu fan on until the screws would not turn anymore How bad is this? I just created metal on metal contact or damaged parts? I'm scared to look...
Brody Moore
alright so after the 3070 or before it if itws not coming soon ill look at a new CPU/motherboard/ram combo and no more asus motherboards thiis thing cant even enable VT-D i go into bios and swap it to enabled but it still doesnt work
Dominic Taylor
you're supposed to screw things into the motherboard until you hear a crack, its a safety mechanism to ensure there's no metal on metal contact
Joseph Walker
there is a separate renderer for the game and new hardware, are you using it?
Jack Turner
>a separate renderer for the game and new hardware what are you referring to?
David Wood
btw i also received a 3fan 2070super from EVGA to further the testing of old games vs 5700xt
if you have any other old games to submit please do
Ayden Long
game runs on glide from what I know there is opengl renderer for it like dx10 renderer for deusex
Adam Stewart
how do i enable this rendered?
Juan Carter
are you okay user? you didn't even try googling "how to run sacrifice on windows10 modern pc"?
Ayden Sanders
i'm a little bit on a time constraint tho and i expect to have someone give it to me straight instead of searching for a tutorial that doesn't waste your time
Eli Williams
>google sacrifice new renderer >read short instruction >install it how more straightforward can it get?
Hudson Long
ok nvm i changed the registery to unlock the max framerate i have GOG version and it comes out pre patched for newer systems apparently
Noah Anderson
Does overclocking ram also increase the heat like with the cpu? Can I just leave it overclocked permanently? Don't know how any of that shit works.
Dominic Ross
my monitor is an asus vs247. what video card should i go for?
Noah Young
yes, and yes. Once you get it stable it should be fine. Just do a litle research into people doing the same with a similar bios etc.
Kayden Howard
>refuses to make effort for older game >complains it runs bad
Mason Harris
Can I just go with the xmp profiles? Based one a video that happens to use the b450 tomahawk it seems to just be a simple click.
Grayson Hill
Does the psu fan go up or down for the meshify s2? Think someone was asking about that last thread. Getting one myself so I want to know.
Ryder Brown
yeah you can do that. Compare the settings while playing games. If you notice any problems then choose a lower setting.
Connor Taylor
>1080p anything relatively modern should do you 1660ti should be more than enough and might even be overkill
Charles Adams
What's the bench 27 inch 1080p 144hz monitor for gaymin... priced under 250 bongs?
Brandon Cruz
best***
Levi Powell
Not that it matters what so ever, but it goes down in the Fractal cases with shrouds obviously
Brayden Price
1080p at 27" looks rank m8. 24" should be your max.
Cameron Gonzalez
my foot will give you a bong fuck off cunt
Dylan Gray
I have a 27 inch 1080p now and It's great. Just don't sit next to the screen. Sounds gay. Sorry, not gay, but I have nothing against you for being gay.
Dylan Brooks
According to every Linus tech tips build this is fact
I would really love to use it for gaming, since young days I only played on things with intel celeron and intel atom, which sucked dick, but finally after I made some money I would really love to upgrade this laptop.
Is the be quiet dark rock slim good for a 3600 or is it overpriced for what I would get? Are there better options?
Nathan Wright
agreed. I got lucky and bought my 1080ti b4 the mining craze for 680$. The fact that the 2080/2080s only has 8gb of vram is a slap to the consumer. Even the 2080ti is the same vram as the 1080ti. Because of this move on nvidia's part the 1080ti is still going for gross amounts and the 2080ti even more, which the 1080ti and 2080ti are the only reasonable cards for 4k or uw 1440 100hz+. And with 1080ti eol you're stuck buying a 2080ti.
I was hoping 3rd gen would be 18gb vram and can do 4k90hz uw1440 144hz on ultra most games but I have my doubts because of this incremental bullshit these tech companies are pulling whilst 4k144hz uw monitors could be made today if they wanted
David Butler
Best case under 60-70 usd to fit ATX and mini ITX at same time? Either my motherboard or PSU dying right now, and since i use mini ITX case, right now it's very hard to check things. So i want to change case in first place, and then think about further upgrades.
Dominic Wright
testing witcher 1 now the settings fonts are all fucked up tho so i can't tweak the settings properly
I have that in my current PC. I wouldn't recommend it because you can't rotate the fan or heat sink. The fan will either be pointed at your video card or the top of the case. You cannot point it at your RAM like a normal cooler.
Nathaniel Kelly
What would you recommend then?
David Thomas
Overpriced garbage. Thermaltake Macho family coolers and Scythe Mugen/Fuma are good value and Noctua for obvious reasons.
Josiah Fisher
Im going for a hyper 212 for my 3700X
Matthew Rogers
here are the results again spinning for the first part then running in a straight line
I'm confused about that cooler. I see that it'll work if I have a proper bracket, but I read in the comments that people say it's not included and they have to ask the manufacturer to ship them one.
Ryder Perez
Looks pretty reasonable senpai Why wouldn't you just keep the standard cooler?
Justin Roberts
The standard cooler gets loud sometimes.
Cooper Nguyen
I'm building a 5+years case so I want it to last without touching it beside cleaning. Might as well keeping it fresh.
Grayson Cruz
I'd be surprised if the 212 was any more effective with noise normalised, especially with the standard cooler's direct heat pipes
Tyler Martinez
The EVO 212 was my previous cooler and I didn't hear it at all.
Sebastian Foster
What I'm saying is I'd be surprised if it's as effective as a cooler.
>The fan will either be pointed at your video card or the top of the case I have that same issue, at first I thought I was doing something wrong, but a looked it up, and you can't install it normally so the exhaust would point to the back of the case. I pointed it towards the top of the case, when I play it gets so hot that it's uncomfortable to touch it.
Nathaniel Moore
second test of witcher 1 this time i played a bit a mission
>AMD They do have bad support for older games aside from gimping. I think the problem is the CPU tho, in Mass Effect 1 you don't have shadows because AMD removed the 3DNow! instruction for example.
Charles Evans
yes look in the previous thread i did generals and generals zero hour although sometimes the game doesn't want to run and gives you a directx 8.1 or newer error, if you retry to launch the .exe it runs normally it only happened once or twice out of 10-15 time i tried to run the .exe
Carter Davis
No, just replace the RGB fans if you don't like them. Nogtua releases their black A12x25 soon
Oliver Bell
Have all the parts except for the psu, which should come tomorrow. Can I start building already or would that be a pain with the psu cables afterwards?