We already have Ubuntu Mate and Xubuntu, as far as I'm concerned Linux Mint is just Cinnabuntu
What is the point of Linux Mint Mate/xfce?
Linux Mint is a different distro than Ubuntu, that means different maintainers, different repos, different packages in those repos, etc.
cinnamon, nemo and muffin is the only custom repo.The maintainers are maintaining just that.
Regardless, the difference between Linux Mint Mate and Ubuntu Mate are the people behind them and maintaining them.
mint mate and xfce are a waste of time. Irish green Xubuntu and Ubuntu mate is shit.
I want them to focus on Cinnamon 100%.
none, garbage money grabber reskin for illiterates
Xubuntu is utter shit compared to mint xfce. Mint actually makes their OS usable while Xubuntu devs just take Ubuntu, put Xfce on it and expect everything to work.
What is with these retards slapping a DE on an iso and calling it a new distro?
What works in Mint Xfce that doesn't work in Xubuntu?
What's the point of Ubuntu, we already have Debian, as far as I'm concerned Ubuntu is just Debian with botnet/corporation forcing snaps
it's Debian but 100% usable on the desktop out of the box and without the trannies
pretty sweet if you ask me
How is Mint Xfce actually different from Xubuntu?
As far as I'm concerned Ubuntu should use Cinnamon, Gnome 3 was a mistake.
No screen tearing, super key opening the app menu, better UI, Qt support, timeshift, redshift, better updater, kernel updater, mintstick.
Screen tearing wasn't fixed on Xubuntu until a month ago while Mint had it fixed immediately when xfwm 4.13 was released, years ago. And Mint offered several compositor options.
Xubuntu isn't made for desktop use.
works on my machine
>without the trannies
You wish, Linux is infested with them
I'm just surprised there isn't an official Ubuntu distro with Cinnamon.
For some reason I've always had issues with Mint
mint is easier than ubuntu
These are certainly nice improvements but its still 100% possible with Xubuntu if you add the packages, themes and configure things the way the mint team does.
Fair enough answering my question.
The point of a distro is to be as ready to use ootb as possible, and (in my opinion) Mint is more ready to use than Xubuntu for desktop use, which is why I prefer it. Doing this much shit yourself is inconvenient, might as well install Debian at that point.
I still would never say "there's no reason for distro X to exist" because that statement will always be false. The reason distros exist is to target specific people and use cases. If you start saying "Mint Xfce has no reason to exist" then logically Xubuntu has no reason to exist, Ubuntu base has no reason to exist, and Debian barely has a reason to exist because LFS exists. Then Canonical, Mint devs and others should just maintain a post-install .sh script for Debian which will guide users into choosing what flavour of Ubuntu/Mint/Elementary/PopOS/ZorinOS/etc. they want, after they install Debian. Solves the "too many distros" problem, which isn't even real. But almost nobody is going to do that because distributions are more convenient.
could transformation/configuration tools exist that transform distros?
KDE neon, Mint, Zorin, Ubuntu 18.04 flavours could all technically be swapped. I'd rather have transformation packages them formatting my hard drive.
No because there'd be a fuck ton of potential leftovers or removed stuff that you'd actually want to keep, and it would be a pain to make a transform tool and maintain it. The best and easiest thing to do would be post-install scripts which are meant to run only and exclusively after you've installed a base (Debian/Arch/openSUSE/whatever).
I already transformed Mint into KDE neon on a VM. I removed .config files, packages, edited the source list for the repos. It's possible but for advance users only.
I just wish custom repos were encouraged over downloading a meme OS just to get Ubuntu with special packages.
all these thing you said are not vital
the only thing that matters the most is hardware support
Ubuntu 18.04 LTS "Bionic Beaver" is the base.
If new linux users had an easier way to distro hop without formatting their hard drives that would benefit them. Mint, Zorin, Neon, Elementary POP OS ect...would all have have to advertise themselves as Bionic Beaver variants and give a transformation script to download. They'd still have an .iso as well.
Other then that once new Linux users realize all the distros they like are variants of a parent distro they'll probably just stick with their favorite of the bunch.
>MATE
Does mate-settings-daemon still go berserk over some fucking NumLock details of all things and 100% an entire core all of the time?
>not vital
If you think good user experience isn't vital then you're retarded.
>hardware support
It's identical and you can always use mainline/ukuu to update your kernel.
but you can uninstall and distro hop all you want as long as you put your home on separate partition and small 50g or less partition for the system. When I installed manjaro over my mint install (both with xfce) I didn't even lose my wallpaper. And besides, you can have many desktop environments at the same time, just select at the login prompt
You're literally comparing an OS's use of an interface. Everything he mentioned was as close to vital as it's gonna get unless we're talking about outlandish stuff like crashes in explorer.exe
just another shitty distro for neckbearded hipsters