Why all the Arch Linux hate? I find it to be a great alternative to Gentoo if you don't want to compile your own software packages.
If you have trouble figuring out and using Arch with no problems then good luck with Gentoo
Why all the Arch Linux hate...
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>systemd
>kiss philosophy
you can't have both.
Use parabola openrc edition if you must use arch.
Wouldn't using an edgy non-systemd fork of Arch Linux go against function over ideology?
>Why all the Arch Linux hate?
memes and sour grapes
>>systemd
But that is a good thing, you stupid memer.
Exactly. Don't use Arch.
There was absolutely nothing wrong with the old init, and I'm still using it to this day.
I'm not even going to get into the issue of shitty developer refusing to fix bugs
Bait harder.
>There was absolutely nothing wrong with the old init
You mean the shell scripts that are sysv-init?
Correct.
Keep It [fucking] Simple, Stupid.
Systemd tries to be and do fucking everything, and it's broken as fuck.
I have absolutely never had a problem with sysv init save for when /I/ fuck up.
Arch is great. If you can't stomach systems then use Artix.
I highly doubt these neckbeard hipster distros are stable at all
it's just debian shitters coping
I installed arch a while ago, couldn't stand the bleeding edge and updating every time I connect. The idea behind it is great, but I just netinstall debian now. I know Arch is supposed to be stable but I'm not comfortable with my shit changing every five minutes.
>retard and read
I already said that on principle, you shouldn't be using parabola either. If you're retarded, you'd stay upstream with something sensible like slack
*can't
Lmao freudian slip, i'm tired.
If you're retarded you'll use a downstream dumpster fire. If you're not a brainlet, you'd stay upstream with something sensible like slack
It's mostly a meme, it's some users, mainly underage, that are annoying as fuck. I'm a debian user and I've met debian people being way harsher than arch users. It's all the same shit more or less.
>arch
>stable
Are you being ignorant on purpose? It's not like people are deploying this stuff on mission critical production servers. They're general purpose personal computing OS' for people who want shiny new things.
I use Arch for my personal computers because I can afford to troubleshoot if something goes south. Nothing bad has happened in years, but again, it's not like you're supposed to use Arch on mission critical systems anyways.
I'm running Arch for mission-critical development at work. Granted, I'm extremely cautious with my btrfs shots and being able to roll back a problem, but we're like 3 years now with no suicide-inducing failure so I feel pgood about it.
>update
>breaks
>kiss
>systemd
lol for fucks sake just use fedora if you want something up to date instead of being a raging autist
Most people using arch don't do anything but customize skins and claim it's the best. They know virtually nothing under it
Not him, but I use that. Parabola respects my freedom and openrc + runit is an excellent, minimalist alternative to sucks-a-fat-d.
Can be said for most popular linux distributions, so it's not an argument
I use arch, pretty redpilled system
how much true is op pic?
>mission critical production servers
>LOOK GUYS IM UZIN BUZZWORD TO SOUND COOL!!! NOTICE ME!!!!
Ok kid, let me guess you use zorin or ubuntu?
This meme hasn't been accurate since 2007. I've had two crashes total while using Arch and they were both because I fucked something up.
Are arch users really fatasses?
Arch is pretty good, major plus is I never had to deal with adding ppa bullshit.
Almost everything is in the official repos and if it isn't, it's definitely in AUR.
Just go to archlinux.org and you can see "manual interventions" for the last few releases. It's still damn accurate.
I have never had a systemd fuck up
I just don't like most binary distros because if the arch repo goes down you can't install trustworthy binaries and the AUR is not even audited basically
I prefer something like nixos when you have the choice not to compile or to compile and you also have the choice to use any server you wish to use for binaries whether its the official, your own or someone else's
>me
>182 cm
>82 kg
>installed arch in 2016
>never had crashes
Contrarianism
I love service files to be honest. Sure, they're not as extensible as a shell script but they're a hell of a lot easier for a lazy Jow Forumsentooman like me to write.
Hobbyists who turn a means into an end in itself are insufferable.
Most people want their computer to be a tool for doing things, while hobby bistro lusers make their computer something to do to feel accomplished without putting real effort into something actually challenging, like learning a language or having sex.
>having sex is challenging
Found the virgin
>having sex
>implying any Linux user is doing this anyway
arch is just like any other distro like debian or fedora but with a manual install so its not a gentoo alternative more then any other distro
>180cm
>66kg
>using arch for almost 10 years now
>using it both at home and work, exclusively
It's never been as stable as today. I need to manually apply some sort of fix (usually just downgrade the kernel package, otherwise their website contains instructions) about once every 6 months. Haven't needed to reinstall for about five years, last major intervention was when they switched it to systemd which is fine. There's no better distro out there.
If you don't care about the newest games or you're not a developer, you can just install the LTS kernel and done. Most if not of all arch "breaks" are because of kernel updates or nvidia.
I like systemd tho, Arch is bae
I've been using Arch for a long time on both my personal and my work machine now.
Haven't had to apply any of these manual intervention actions because I haven't installed the affected packages in the first place. In pratice on a desktop system like mine it boils down to maybe fixing something simple once in 1-2 years. And then the installation lives for many years and also survives moving to a new machine -- did the latter just yesterday.
No reinstalling and setting everything up fresh ever.
Because this is Jow Forums and edge teens love contrarianism.
The manual interventions are a one command thing and harmless to your system. Arch in the mid 2000's was a mess because they didn't have half the devs they have now. Arch is completely fine for home and work. For servers I'll always go with Debian
you know it's old as fuck when it even mentions xorg.conf, because;
a. 99% of the time, you don't even need an xorg.conf
b. even if you do, arch now expects seperate sections under xorg.conf.d/ these days, so even with custom config, you still don't actually have an "xorg.conf"
Service management with Systemd is much easier than with SysVInit compatibles. No fucking scripting to set up custom services, just simple config files. Also the timers functionality replaces cron which is nice to have.
>archtard thinks everything is a buzzword
There is nothing you can do on it you can't do on ubuntu
You don't "learn" anything besides waste time pretending to fix shit that no mainstream distro has had for 20 years
You don't fit in with anyone online because tomorrow it will be about how you use an easy and not shit-on-purpose shell or editor
There is no human noticeable speed difference on anything above a C2D
Nobody's hiring for it or takes it seriously
The package manager only makes sense if you are as autistic and special as it is
All the community does is try to push you away or try to out hipster each other because they don't want to admit they don't give a flying fuck about any of this so long as they can pretend to be unique and keep calling everyone noobs
This entire distro is a game to get you onto their irc so they can forever keep you in a state where you are asking questions on how to install/maintain it so that they won't answer so they can pretend to be smart
Never updating does not and will never count as being "stable"
>NOOOOO ALL U NEED IS ON THE CEE DEE
The current change log is updated every day, it's just as solid as 14.2
>arch
>alternative to gentoo
arch and genoo are distros with completely different purposes, philosophies and use cases
calling gentoo an "alternative" to arch is like calling a spoon an "alternative" to a fork
Many meals that can be eaten with a fork can also be eaten with a spoon. The other way around is kinda hard though.
Low IQ shitskins can't install Arch GNU and as expected of these animals they chimp out over this. That's basically all there is to it.
sabayon is a graphical installer pre-compiled packages alternative to gentoo.
But I've also used arch before too, and it's actually probably a little simpler and dependable to maintain once it's installed tbqh.
Good to know. Did you ever feel systemd get in the way in any meaningful way?