/privacy/ - privacy general

why use "inc" instead of "llc"? i hear people can hire rental office to receive mail on one's behalf.

Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say.

I don't care about free speech because the only ones who need it are nazis and incels

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_to_hide_argument
I don't find any of these counterarguments convincing. Nobody is arguing that everyone in the world should be able to go through your phone and your pants whenever they please but that law enforcement should be able to in the course of their regular duties.
That's an analogy, not an argument.

Why should I care about free speech if I have nothing to say?

Everyone has something to hide. Doesn't necessarily mean what they're hiding is illegal.

Then quit posting.

Finally a proper general for this. The previous /privacy/ generals were ass.

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Well actually i wasn't sure, but sure, register a LLC and recieve all the neccesary mail, an alternative would also be to acquire a ghost address, if you're unsure about what i mean by this, then you should read Michael Bazzell's books, he's been a government agent for 10+ years i think, and he was the technical advisor for Mr. Robot season 1 (not that it means anything haha)

I agree, which is why i organized it a bit. Essentially i'll be writing a /privacy/ guide in the near future, covering a bunch of practices ranging from Basic (takes literally no effort and won't change your life) - Extreme (almost unhealthy lifestyle).

To everyone who has nothing to hide, post your credentials to whatever web service you might use, i want to get inside and explore everything you've done on this platform, and if i find anything worth humiliating about you, i'll be messaging everyone in your friends list, and if they ask why i did so, ill simply reply with: "I have nothing to hide, thats why". While this might be a shitty arguement, it sadly is true.

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>Nobody is arguing that everyone in the world should be able to go through your phone and your pants whenever they please but that law enforcement should be able to in the course of their regular duties.
which has yet to receive a rational response

ITT: pedos

yeah that's the only reason anyone would care about privacy. gonna go spread my asshole in front of my bay windows

Hey whatever floats your boat, friend

While law enforcement could be a part of your threat model, but it simply isn't about that, the common "threat" are data brokers who are able to buy your data for quite a small price. Law enforcement usually can and does snoop through your stuff, even if you have not comitted a crime, it simply is one of their "suspicions". And the people saying that "I dont have anything to hide" are usually the same people who are unaware of big brother data mining firms. Also, if Snowden didn't leak/open our eyes to PRISM, then we probably wouldn't have known about it.

TL;DR: You should only give a fuck about privacy if you actually care, if you don't mind third parties going around sharing your data to whatever company, then thats your choice.

The right to privacy is the right to self. You "own" you. You decide when you want to share you and when you don't. It is really just that simple.

There are also things we, as a society, have decide we don't think is generally right to share. This is why we have bathroom stalls with a door that can be closed and locked versus just using toilets on street corners.

As long as there have been windows, there have been curtains. Privacy is part of human nature.

>trusting the police
>trusting your government

Facial Recognition survelliance is getting banned in various states for a reason, imagine a breach in this technology, where all AI generated profiles about citizens gets released to the public, congratulations! everyone in the world can now see what you've been doing the past month in your life! You literally cannot cheat on your current gf/wife, because she WILL know.

Hello back, fellow /fucko/s

innawoods bros ww@

If said law enforcement obtained a warrant for a direct breach of your privacy, they should be able to do so, emphasis on 'direct'. But checking out your belongings in depth, especially electronics, at traffic stops, airports or whatever, shouldn't exist. I understand that they have to quickly check for bombs, but no one needs to know about the pictures you keep in your wallet, for example. Dragnet methods like hoarding metadata, unwarranted spying and similar should all be illegal with severe punishments.

I'm sure it's cool thinking you're gonna find and bust some drug lord that will "one day" enter your sights, but this shit does more harm than good. It's not just about direct consequences like abuse of power and data leaks, people getting used to this bullshit and becoming complacent is just as bad if not worse, because it makes the direct effects all the more deadly.

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This.

FUCK THE POLICE

Freedom of speech is a principle that supports the freedom of an individual or a community to articulate their opinions and ideas without fear of retaliation, censorship, or legal sanction. The term "freedom of expression" is sometimes used synonymously but includes any act of seeking, receiving, and imparting information or ideas, regardless of the medium used.

Freedom of expression is recognized as a human right under article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR) and recognized in international human rights law in the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR).

Is termius secure for ssh to rpi ob mobile?

What are some good papers I can read on the importance on privacy, and what are companies currently doing to ensure it, taking into consideration recent regulations like the gdpr?
I'm writing one myself, but I'm looking for some good citations.

>tfw genuinely just enjoy having full control over my privacy but constantly find myself in the midst of bad actors and criminals

bad feel

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Please, if you're writing a guide, would you be willing to freely write the /privacy/ guide? If you're not interested then thats fine, but here are you sources you're looking for:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_information_laws_by_country
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privacy_law
medium.com/meet-lima/why-privacy-is-important-even-though-you-have-nothing-to-hide-ee93c27ab26f
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook–Cambridge_Analytica_data_scandal
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_disclosure_law

Typo: i meant to task if you are willing to help write the guide, not fully write it by yourself

You're better using something like Termux to ssh.

I'd love to help with that once I have more time, although I don't consider myself very knowledgeable in the subject yet. I'm currently working on a dissertation about privacy, but I'm still at the investigation phase.

Also, I already had most of those sources into account, but thanks anyway!

Forgot to mention, you might wanna go through the actual Snowden leaks, you can then later citate informatiom from those papers.

Thanks user
Youre the best~~

Thank you. You know, that document I'm writing is actually supposed to be sort of a privacy guide, but for companies to comply with the regulations rather than a guide targeted for individuals who want to ensure their own privacy. That said, the subject fascinates me, and it'd be fun to help with the /privacy/ guide. How could I help you with that in a specific way?

Well my main issue is trying to find as much as information possible, that's gonna take ages, so what you could do to help, is simply do as much research, and post it in this or future threads. Thank you!

- And when you find something, remember to specify the sources! Nobody is gonna take a blind mans word.

I want to hide porn usage from ISP, is torbrowser enough? I need to enable JS scripts tho, pornhub don't work with noscript

Tor browser is gonna be enough, if you want to hide that you're using Tor at all from your ISP, consider using Tor bridge instead, that being said, using the "Safer" mode on Tor browser should be fine.

Also, do you just in general want to hide it from ur ISP? You could use a privacy minded DNS resolver like OpenNIC if you don't mind pornhub itself seeing what IP you're visiting from.

Use a VM of Whonix so you can browse with JS on wherever you want. Since Whonix doesnt know your IP the only IP a JS exploit can ever retrieve is one from the tor circuit that the whonix gateway uses

Some porn don't work even with enabled scripts. For example pornhub: Some videos work on torbrowser, some wont even load. I have no idea what it depends on

fbi nsa chilling thread
watch out and stay paranoia Jow Forumsentlemen

security is more important then privacy.
disabling all the shit on a sony/pixel is better then flashing lineageos on a xiaomi phone: they don't have a threat model, code is written poorly and security patches are not timely updated.
even linux is really bad, like every system with monolithic kernels. it's a way bigger horror then systemd and most of you don't even realize it.

Absolutely! I'll see what I can do.

They're both important, i get your point though, most of privacy relies on security, and in some cases vice versa

>even linux is really bad
NOOOOOO SHUT UPPP

>like every system with monolithic kernels
based and microkernelpilled!
I wish we had a comfy microkernel OS that is usable on the desktop.

Try getting a new tor identity. You might be connecting from an exit node that blocks content

>I wish we had a comfy microkernel OS that is usable on the desktop.
You're welcome to contribute to existing projects

Reminder that Systemd is a privacy threat

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>even linux is bad
Huh? What the fuck do you use then?

how about * BSD, faget

So which one is it? OpenBSD or DragonflyBSD? I can't imagine you using some shit like TrueOS or FreeBSD

Is there other podcasts/books about privacy topics within countries other than the US?

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I'm sorry, but i don't think such a source exists, generally, what's written in Bazzell's books could be used in countries other than the US. If you don't live in the US, then that's only a good thing when it comes to privacy. I'll assume you live outside "the eyes" for a moment.
* Mobile spying is less common
* Data brokers aren't in every country
* Mass Survelliance is less common

Heres an interesting case about privacy which occured in denmark 11 years ago:

The goldsmith Preben Randlov was robbed February 8. 2008 where the robber not only got away with approximately 1.3 million DKR (€173.333) worth of jewelry, but also assaulted 2 employees, including Preben Randlov's wife. He then proceeded to upload a video from his shop surveillance camera of the masked robber, and issued a 25.000 DKR (€3.333) reward for any information that would lead to the arrest of the robber. The Data Protection Agency decided to initiate an administrative proceeding against Preben Randlov as he had not “asked the robber to consent” to the uploading of the video, and he was fined by 10.000 DKR (€1.333) by the police, as only the police have the authority to release videos of this nature. The video did lead to an arrest of 2 individuals who claimed they had bought the jewelry, but neither of them were convicted for the robbery. In October 2008, another one of Preben Randlov stores was robbed, and he told reporters during an interview, that he would upload a video of the new robbery as well.

You actually expect big tech to follow the law?

They are openly saying that their business model is:
>move fast and break shit
>it's better to beg for forgiveness than to ask for permission
>regulatory innovation

To them fines from law breaking are just a cost of business, not a consequence of breaking a law that everyone has to follow.

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for what? daily tasks?

Yes

where is your proof for this?

I trust windows more with bening up to date and safe from the latest bullshit then any linux distro, but then again no desktop os can be fully trusted

what you just said there was complete BULLSHIT. I hope this isn't some kind of reverse psychology bait, but how the FUCK do you trust a closed operating system that sends shit about you in almost realtime (5500 times a day) over a fully open source kernel which can doesn't send shit about you at all?

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Why are you freetards so fucking close minded. Yes, windows has telemetry and shit enabled by default, and Linux doesn't, but that's not all there is to it. Linux gets hacked the whole fucking time because of its lack of security. This doesn't happen so often with windows, because it has much more security features implemented. Would you rather have a computer sending random info to a company who doesn't give a shit about your existence, or have a computer vulnerable to targeted attacks from pissed of eastern Europeans/Asians.

whats wrong with freebsd and netbsd?

not as secure as openbsd

>windows more safe than linux

Huh? Windows gets hacked all the time, Linux doesn't lack security, it's either your packages, or the user itself who has not yet learned how to harden it. Yes, there are more vulnerable Linux boxes out in the open, but they all run outdated software and they're probably apart of some shitty botnet fork, it's almost as if you're saying that Windows is gonna stay secure regardless of updates. Is this it user?

FreeBSD has far bigger vuln record than other BSD distro, it might just have the biggest one yet (this is freebsd with no changes whatsoever). However, there is a hardened version of FreeBSD called HardenedBSD, check it out if you're interested

>windows has telemetry enabled by default
and you can't disable it no matter how hard you try rajeet

what about debian? fedora?

>fully open source kernel
Source?

The goalpost was being more secure than Linux. Please do not move the goalpost

>FreeBSD has far bigger vuln record than other BSD distro
I figured, but how does it compare to Linux?
Im really getting sick of Linuxs bloat. I used to be able to depend on Debian being bloat free, but no longer it seems. My most recent annoyance? Autohiding scroll bars in Synaptic package manager. fuck that bull shit. I dont even have a DE installed

yes, open

those are Linux distros. So, not examples of non-Linux OSs

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