Previous thread: Don't buy anything OTHER THAN IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad T, X, and W/P Series if you want the Real Business Experience™ >Other business laptops are welcome in /tpg/ (Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
Why ThinkPad? >Used machines are plentiful and cheap >Excellent keyboards >Great durability (excl L and E series) >Utilitarian design >Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop >Most models are easy to repair, upgrade & maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model and spare parts are easy & cheap to obtain >The best TrackPoint™, easier to use when typing >Good for Hackintoshing
Libreboot-compatible models: >T60 (check lcd), X60(s/t); X200(s/t. -s requires soldering), T400(s)/500; W500 Models before *40 series can be Corebooted
Modern models: >X220/X230 - 12", 768p, cheap >T420/T430 - 14", 900p, widely available for a good price, socketed CPU (Ivy Bridge CPU support on T420); Quad Core Compatible >T520/530; W520/530 - 15", 1080p, DTR, 32GB RAM on quadcore models, USB 3.0 >T440s - best price/performance ultra portable >T440p/540p; W540/1 - Last Thinkpads with socketed processors, easily replaceable trackpad (W541 doesn't need trackpad replacement)
T430 with 8gb ram and i5 3220m cpu good for office tasks and youtube. My wifes current laptop with ild amd 4 core cpu at 1.7ghz sucks ass because of hungry microsoft
Cooper Johnson
is a really high pitch noise normal for the X250 fan? I've already cleaned it and whenever it's on, it gives this unpleasant tinny sound alongside the normal fan noise
Julian Fisher
yes
Jacob Wood
Thanks
John Miller
I don't think upgradable gpus have never been a thing and pretty much any laptop cpus made in the past ~6 years aren't upgradable either. T440 is the last thinkpad to have a upgradable cpu.
Josiah Sanders
X60 motherboard in a X61t body. Possible or no? Froggo for your time.
I once had that issue, caused by loose wires. Are there any wires around the fan or housing that aren't attached properly. Also finally dissassemble the fan housing and fan itself completely and perform a full visual inspection, the kind you would do with a naked girl you're horny for, you'll certainly find it's something touching that fan.
John Turner
>I once had that issue, caused by loose wires. No wait, it was the fan-wire tape that was rattling the fan.
Owen Ramirez
yes the directions are in the official BIOS update folder from Lenovo
Andrew Lopez
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Kevin Ortiz
Is anyone here familiar with the Dell Precision M4800? Are they any good? I'm looking for a cheap laptop as a second computer and to use while traveling. I was originally thinking about getting a T440p or a W541 but one of my local e-waste recycling places has tons of the Dells after some company upgraded. I can get one for a decent price with 32GB of ram and a 256GB ssd included.
Just posting this again in the newer thread.
Jaxson Rodriguez
Can I just replace the motherboard with one with a GPU then? Is there anywhere reliable to buy those?
Levi Diaz
wait i change my mind, there used to be a readme.txt that came with the bios update utility download that explained how to change the bios picture, but it's actually in the utility folder after you install the bios update utility (Windows only) >C:\DRIVERS\FLASH\update utility default name that folder then it'll be in BIOS_LOGO.txt
They're very good. I'd say they're actually better than their W540/1 competitors due to having MXM GPUs and better cooling with dual fans. The keyboard and trackpoint aren't quite thinkpad-tier but still very good for a laptop.
Jose Myers
Holy shit bros, just got an ips screen for my x220, I never realized how much nicer javs can look. It's like a whole new world has opened up to me. I have an assignment due tomorrow and I might just end up spending the entire day programming and jerking off.
well, my W520 finally arrived. seems nice so far aside from the motherboard temps which are kinda high. should i be worried about motherboard idle temps from 55C-75C? could it just be a faulty sensor or what's the deal
Brandon Torres
you could get a T420 for less than that heck you could get a whole T430 for less than that what is the purpose
David Perry
I want to upgrade my t530
any downside to using locally sourced ram/ssd off cl, or should I buy new from amazon?
Dylan Watson
secondhand hard drives are yucky, new 1tb SSD's are like $100 nowadays and you get warranty with them and it'll probably last forever
ram is whatever, but there is a couple brands that have lifetime warranties, like G.Skill and Kingston, I think
Ryan Carter
How bad is the Ideapad line, really? My mom is looking for a laptop
Logan Taylor
I'll sell the parts I replace. I spent $200 on my T430
Alexander Mitchell
same as any cheap plastic best buy shite hinges will break, along with other plastic bits, battery will go to shit quickly, support is handled differently compared to the think* line
you can also check their outlet for refurbished things with warranties lenovo.com/us/en/outletus/ (other brands have things like this too) whatever she gets just make sure it has an SSD, it will make the biggest impact on performance and lifespan
sounds like a lot of hassle for actual pennies, get a job
Liam Rodriguez
I have a job. Modding is fun. Maybe I'll trade these parts for other parts, who knows.
>whatever she gets just make sure it has an SSD, it will make the biggest impact on performance and lifespan Yeah definitely gonna do that, main other concern is having a screen that's not shit. She doesn't want to spend much like I said, but her last laptop was some Asus that turned out to be a piece of shit and she doesn't want to repeat that. I have a MBP though so I don't really know what's out there as far as Windows laptops.
Guess I should really figure it out though because when this MBP kicks the bucket I doubt I'll get another Mac with the way they're going these days.
What OS? Also you should reapply fresh thermal paste every 1 to 2 years, the one in my W520 was dried up when I got it. The fan also has to be cleaned quite often The Nvidia GPU should be about 10°C below the CPU at most times
Logan Gutierrez
win7, laptop came used so i might just have to open it up and check how the situation is. thanks
Aiden Phillips
Mine runs at around 45C in idle in win7 and goes up to 90C under really heavy load
Dominic Baker
I really don't need all that, I just need a better resolution than 1366x768. Everything is so big and takes up too much space
Chase James
>a better screen requires either an extension or an adapter Fuck this gay shit, where's the 3rd option.
Chase Scott
maybe its my eyes but I don't think the stock screen is that bad, other than the fucked up resolution making me scroll so much
Kevin Johnson
do you guys use tlp on your thinkpads? does it help battery life?
Aiden Reyes
they break over time but the good thing is they survive catastrophe well and can be fixed overnight.
I hesitate between a HDD and a SSD for a x220, knowing that I move a lot of movies and music, would not it be better to take a HDD?
Jordan Davis
ssd is marginally better battery life if that matters. if you skip tracks a lot on large files it will probably be more responsive, but again marginally.
Alexander Martin
also for movies it probably wont matter much unless your jumping around inside them various timestamps.
Gabriel Moore
Are there any thinkpads with extremely low TDP cpus (eg. 6W) that offer high battery life at the expense of everything else?
Easton Lopez
you probably want one of the early intel atom netbooks. theyre cheap and like
Wyatt Flores
>hdd >2019 lmao
Noah Powell
>chiclet key thinkpad glorified ideapads are not thinkpads.
Gabriel Adams
Enjoy your $999 1To SSD, retard You're a sold, negro
Kevin Jenkins
if i want to dual boot windows10 and debian on a t440p, does it matter which slot i use for either one? i was thinking of using debian as my main os on the normal ssd, and then windows on the m2 ssd just in case.
Brayden Carter
most people keep all their operating systems on one disk
Nolan Morris
*i obviously meant dual booting with two drives.
Brody Wilson
ok thanks, i've never dual booted so i was wondering. guess it was more of a question for /sqt/
Asher Cook
1Tb ssd is like $150
Chase Cooper
can u even get an hdd bigger than 1tb in an x220? cuz they use the slim 7mm drives not standard 9.5mm and 1tb ssds are $100 nowadays
ssd >more reliable >no sound >no vibrations >will last forever, can put in future machines >faster boot times, faster thumbnail loading, faster everything >consumes less power hdd >slightly better $/gb
seems the winner is clear to me, go with the hdd
Grayson Hughes
Who use the slim 7mm drives ? The x220 u mean ? I got an 720Go HDD but i don't know if i buy an HDD or not
Xavier Lee
Yes. The X220 requires 7mm height drives. 9.5mm will not work. Most laptop HDD's are 9.5mm. All SSD's are 7mm
Does librebooting matter? Seems like overkill to me but im not much informed on it.
Cameron Russell
extremely unlikely
Christopher Miller
unless you run over the laptop i'm not sure what you're afraid of
Angel Scott
I sold my MacBook Pro 2015 few days ago, got myself a nice t440p, put into it i7 4702mq, 512gb of SSD storage, 16GB of RAM, and now I am waiting for 1080p screen from Aliexpress... I think I got myself a dream machine.
And what's even more thrilling is sensation of having built machine by yourself. Some kind of warm feeling knowing that you have invested some kind of work into it, it is total opposite of soulless Apple MacBook. Feels gud.
Two reasons: 1. People are cheap fucks and don't know shit about displays, so they just buy the cheapest possible configuration 2. Companies buy them in bulk, and they don't give a shit about displays, especially since ThinkPads are often used docked at workplaces. Good news is that you can easily change the display for a good one yourself.
Oliver Ward
How so? Like what?
Owen Morgan
How's a T510 and why isn't it recommended?
Angel Sanchez
In my honest opinion T430 is better if you are ok with the size of it.
Julian Wilson
yeah
Bentley Russell
Just decided to purchase a w530 for 500e with 16gb and a new 500gb ssd The clerk offered to install it dualbooted with w10 and ubuntu, latter of whch i aim to use, but since Linux is new for me (used Windows all my life) i gave the ok to install w10 aswell just in case
Wondering if there will be any residue from w10 when i decide to go full linux? Should i just message him to skip the windows completely?
Jaxson James
i put msata ssd for system and a 2.5hdd in mine
Elijah Hughes
I have come to request your aid yet again! Please help as no idea which one I should use, or if you have any other suggestions please let me know.
So here I have 3 heatsinks for the thinkpad x230, which are : 04w6922 vs 04W0435 vs 04W6922
Apparently 04W6922 is the one specifically made for x230 and x230i. I have problems regarding overheating, wherein I am using an IDE and it overheats to 70-80 C. I bought some arctic mx-4, plus now a new motherboard due to overheated GPU, which I will try to fix. I am also using an msata, should that be relevant.
Is there any other heatsink I could shove into this machine so that it does not overheat so easily? Thanks in advance!
Really could not find anything on a heatsink upgrade.
Charles Foster
Sorry, last one was 04W6923 I suppose this would be the best choice?
i wonder how most of you are more onions than me but dont struggle with the fucking screws
Isaiah Jones
Can /tpg/ help me. Is this worth it for $295 CAD/ $225 USD
Lenovo thinkpad L470 14" screen Full HD IPS screen 1920*1080 Intel Core i5 - 6200U 8gb ddr4, one more open slot for further expansion 180GB SSD Intel Hd graphics Built in webcam USB 3.0 3 ports Mini DisplayPort Fingerprint reader Each full charge holds about 4 hrs of usage time depending on the programs running Comes with charger