/pcbg/ - PC Building General

code 43 on gpu in device manager on windows 7
gpu is evga 480GTX
Literally nothing works.
Please advise im losing my sanity

>480GTX
>Literally nothing works
just get a new card then, even something cheap like a 1660 will perform much better, and you wont need a power plant anymore.

Attached: housefire.jpg (560x346, 41K)

I doubt you'll find many chinese or expats here

>Vega 56?
Pretty much always has been a bad deal. Compare the image to pricing in your region

If using DDU to uninstall and then reinstalling drivers didn't help, card has probably died user. Give it a proper burial wherever electronics are recycled.

Attached: 1440p condensed.png (985x636, 188K)

>uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/ZvyBfH
300 bong is much too expensive for vega56
Your list sucks in general, with single channel RAM, overpriced board, etc.
uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/VR3MfH

b450 mITX is only a few choices. cheapest non-gigabyte one.
Wouldn't you be better off with a 2600 and 2070S when most of the work is on the GPU?

for what?
If you're doing 1080p@60, all you need is a 1600+1660. Why do you think you need a 3600 and 1660ti?
Most b350 boards are pretty low quality.

>pcpartpicker.com/list/NN4mfH
read OP on SSDs
Why pay $225 for a 1660?

Is there a way or place to purchase intel T cpus for cheap, or am I fucked since I'm neither John Dell nor John HP

Attached: 1553283436-cat-heater-busao-tanryug-1-5a6af13960127-700.png (700x700, 828K)

Thanks! The price difference between a 1660 and a 1660 ti is pretty small thoguh... how about a rx590?

>If you're doing 1080p@60, all you need is a 1600+1660. Why do you think you need a 3600 and 1660ti?
There are games that need a 1660 ti for ultra 60frames, like MHW and Metro (I know ultra is a bit of a meme, but still). Going with stronger components seems more future proof. Like what if I buy a new gpu in like 3 years? I'd most likely be fine with a 3600, not so fine with a 1600.

Thanks.

>Your list sucks in general

I don't know anything about pcs, just tried building a good budget pc that could do 1440p since I intend to upgrade my 1080p soon.

Thanks for the list.

>Want to buy a 5700 but im afraid of their shitty drivers
>Novideo equivalent costs significantly more because of their meme technology i wont even use
>B550 wont be a thing anytime soon
>tomahawk max is more expensive than the original despite the fact that its the same product

Attached: 1546917730524.jpg (481x784, 93K)

Something else you can try is switching PCIe slots

Depends on how cheap you're expecting to get them, but there are plenty on ebay

>a rx590
An RX 580 is likely to be a better deal for several reasons, including price/perf and power consumption (RX 590 is a 230W card at stock, for comparison a 1660 is a 120W card). We can't know pricing in your region, so just look up a recent relative performance chart and compare prices that you have access to
techpowerup.com/review/xfx-radeon-rx-5700-xt-ultra-thicc-ii/27.html

>Going with stronger components seems more future proof.
Trying to future proof (especially with graphics cards) isn't a good idea. In a few years a 1660 and a 1660Ti will be almost neck and neck in performance charts because they'll (probably) be dwarfed by newer cards.

>card in civilzed countries has an MSRP of 150$
>impossible to find under 350$ in my country
i wish someone would fucking nuke us

its a confusing time to be an AMD fanboy

>There are games that need a 1660 ti for ultra 60frames, like MHW and Metro (
As you say, ultra is a meme. You'll get like 20-50% higher fps at "high" on newer games and it'll run fine on a 1660 then.
Even an RX570 runs the game on "high", volumetrics enabled, at 70fps, in MHW.
1660ti for 1080p@60 is retarded for when a little bit more you can get a 1440p card. And 1440p on medium even looks better than pleb resolution at "ultra", for that matter.
>how about an RX590
It uses a lot more power than the 1660. So it depends how cheap it is. If it's 15% cheaper or so, then sure.

1660ti is so close in performance to the 590/1660 that it's not going to be significant when more demanding games come around. But when more demanding games do come, they'll probably still look fine on medium settings. Modern game engines tend to scale very well on the quality settings with ultra merely existing to sell GPUS and is not to make makes look better.

careful with asrock: google "asrock b450 itx ryzen 3000"
tl;dr: boot loops or not booting at all for some users

Can a non-system-drive HDD cause my PC to crash?

STILL no restock of Red Devil XT in murrica.

Attached: 1567102174690.jpg (766x730, 145K)

yes, happened to me before. if i tried plugging it into any pc it would make it not boot. that drive was gone for good

Thing is, I can access files just fine. It doesn't appear broken but I'm worried that it's starting to fail and that it might be the reason of my newly built Ryzen 5 system crashing frequently.

Do we know anything about the red dragon 5700? Is it going to be better than sapphire's pulse, and would it be worth it for the 40€ price difference?

Can we make a list of recommended used GPU prices? Like 1080Ti = $400, 1080 = $300 and so on?

do a health check on the drive

we know that its perpetually out of stock, just like all the other aftermarket amd cards

>We can't know pricing in your region, so just look up a recent relative performance chart and compare prices that you have access to
a 1660 ti is like 12~15% more expensive than a regular 1660, seems worth the difference... now a Rx580 is way cheaper (the 4gb vram model).

>Trying to future proof (especially with graphics cards) isn't a good idea
I know, I'm talking more about the cpu, you mentioned a ryzen 1600, that seems weak... but you have a point, a 3600 might be overkill. 2600 the sweet spot maybe?

but don't you think the ps5 games will be way heavier than what we have now? In this context, the 8~12 fps the 1660 ti has over the others could be important. I want this gpu for at least like 4 or 5 years.

pcpartpicker.com/list/zNKbsZ
Do I really need 1000gb or is 500 gb actually too small. Also how much should I be looking for in a 1660?

Well, my case is very small, I'm trying to get stuff that's minimally viable into that 6L case. I don't need to make special room for it and I can take it with me when I travel

3600 uses less power and has a lower TDP
2070S doesn't even fit into it, it's too long and neither do any of the AMD cards (not that they work that well for machine learning, they don't have tensor processing units and most shit works on CUDA)

I do need something of a processor, because I need to shuffle the data

>Each BIOS update risks bricking the board.
>Activating XMP also risks bricking the board.
source for this?

Get the non-XT and flash it.

It's what you'd expect of a midrange model. It's fine, it's just not the red devil.
I've seen the red devil 5700 in stock. But it's going to disappear as more people realize you can flash them and get 97% the same perf as the XT with it.

1080Ti = $300 1080 = $240, you mean? Why would you pay $400 for a used 1080ti lmao

>but don't you think the ps5 games will be way heavier than what we have now
Of course, but they seem to be targeting 1080p@120, or 1440-1800p@60. Even poor people have 4K TVs now days and there are 120hz TVs. Lots of people also use monitors when they take console gaming seriously.

>pcpartpicker.com/list/zNKbsZ
SSD is overpriced. Get MX500.
How much space you need is up to you. 1TB is not enough for me...
>Also how much should I be looking for in a 1660?
$200 is a good price for the 1660.

>SSD is overpriced. Get MX500.
why are u niggas shilling sata ssds? isnt the sabrent rocket / inland premium way superior for your burgers? literally the same cost

>1080Ti = $300 1080 = $240, you mean? Why would you pay $400 for a used 1080ti lmao
not him but the 1080 is around 5700/2060 super level. $300 isnt bad for it assuming its still in good condition
same with the 1080 ti, it BTFOs any other card at $400, assuming you get one in good condition

Can a overall price reduction happen in the GPU market with the next generation? I'm not too happy about xx80 GPUs going from $500 to $700 and xx80ti to go from $700 to $1200. Same with xx60 ones going from $200-250 to $350-400. I was hoping for 5700xt to be cheaper honestly.

Attached: 1557950598141.jpg (1024x1536, 165K)

2080 tis are selling, amd is shipping more gpus than nvidia
this is literally the new norm for goys
the only option to get value would be to get something like the vega 56 in eu when they dropped low in price
else you are ultra fucked

If my motherboard only has 3 chassis/system fan headers, but I want to run 6+ fans, how can I do that? I want to have the fan speed modulated, so using a hub wouldn't work since they typically run things at 100% all the time. How many times can I use a splitter off of a header before I have potential to damage components?

Am I wrong in thinking that a hub will have my fans running 100% all the time? Is there some sort of hub that will take the PWM from my motherboard and use power direct from the PSU to avoid overloading the motherboard circuits?

Is there any performance degradation of using an m.2 to PCIe adapter for a third NVME drive?

Attached: 1274327693316.jpg (600x524, 49K)

My 1060 has started to show its age but I'm reluctant to buy a new card now. $400 seems like a sweet spot for performance and price right now.

depends on what platform u are using and how many pcie lanes and if you are accessing all drive simultaneously or not clogging up everything

chassis like r6 and what not have pwm fan hubs and u can connect the hub to a pwm header like cpu fan i believe? something like that maybe?

>you mentioned a ryzen 1600
I mentioned a 2600, which is 60+FPS and plenty for a 1660Ti. Who knows what'll happen a few years from now; you might want something with a lot more cores after new consoles drop

does a 3600 have a big advantage over the 2600 when emulating?

Extra IPC is always good when emulating.

Yeah it does

HOW MUCH BETTER IS THE 2080 COMPARED TO THE 5700XT
I CAN GET THE LATTER (PULSE EDITION ONLY) FOR $515 OR THE FORMER IN STRIX FOR $630

at those prices I would get a 2080

where the fuck do you live?
just get the 2080 at that point

2080 IT IS, CAN'T WAIT TO ENJOY ICE COLD THERMALS
IS THE 5700XT THAT OVERPRICED FOR YOU TO ACT SO SURPRISED OR WHAT

They have to be significantly cheaper than what you can get new, both because newer architectures have improvements that will age better and because you'll get a warranty when buying new. The only recent cards that have good used prices are 470/480/570/570

Attached: old graphics card battle.png (1922x1878, 1.26M)

Yeah they go apeshit for that

>IS THE 5700XT THAT OVERPRICED FOR YOU TO ACT SO SURPRISED OR WHAT
yes
how much do 2070-Supers cost where you are? Its very similar in performance to the 2080 and normally sells for aorund $510 - $540

I need a few high fidelity games to justify the purchase of my i9-9900K and RTX 2080 Ti rig.

I've already got Hitman 2 and Shadow of the Tomb Raider.

2070 SUPER STARTS AT $610 WITH ZOTAC ALL THE WAY UP TO $745 FOR THE GAMING X TRIO/STRIX

Control with RTX, obviously
Metro Exodus with RTX
Otherwise nothing is really that demanding

OKAY NEVERMIND GET THE 2080, JESUS FUCK THE PRICES ARE FUCKED IN YOUR COUNTRY DUDE, GOOD LUCK

pcpartpicker.com/list/vyXNLJ

Rate my SFF gaming and general purpose build.

Attached: 620TleW.gif (500x360, 766K)

There will be at least a slight increase in perf/$ with the launch of Ampere next year. Also Intel is going to have 7nm GPUs on the market at some point, probably 2021

>amd is shipping more gpus than nvidia
Because they're selling a shit ton of Polaris (570/580)
Very poorly written article, but it gets the point across
fudzilla.com/news/graphics/49323-how-amd-gained-market-share

it works I guess

Control with the ray tracing turned on
Metro Exodus with the ray tracing turned on
Minecraft with Ray tracing looks gorgeous
Cyberpunk 2077 will have full ray tracing and look good even without it
Borderlands 3
DOOM Eternal
The Surge 2

Waiting on at least reviews and clash of the nitro+.
If it had comparable build quickly at a good price I'll consider it, otherwise I pull the trigger and roll the dice on a flash.

I would strongly consider the R5 3600 for that build. Not much more wattage, but a 6c/12t CPU probably means that you won't have to bother with an upgrade of that tight SFF for longer

Attached: power-gaming.png (500x730, 48K)

wait hold on how does the gpu fit height-wise? I guess the case only allows you to mount it vertically?

Eh it's not really about wattage. It's more about stability ATM. My buddy got a Ryzen 3700X and that Gigabyte X570 mITX board in his SFF build as is and he's been pulling his hair out with BIOS issues and recently the board has been resetting his RAM back to 2133MHz with like CL19 timings (down from his kits rated CL15 3000MHz). I just want my stuff to be plug and play. Plus it's overall cheap right now.
The Node 202 uses a PCIe bridge/extension type deal by default and the GPU sits in the case like pic related.

Attached: RRd4Aoa_d.jpg (640x426, 36K)

Thats really fucking cool, I should build one of these for my parents or some shit.

Not literally the same cost. 1TB MX500 is $90. Inland Premium and Sabrent Rocket is $110.
For games, you don't really see a different so in a budget build you're better off saving the $20.

5700XT is 90% the perf of 1080Ti, and overclocks to the same perf, for $400. That's not too terrible. And understandably, AMD is selling more GPUs than Nvidia now despite the FUD some are spreading to try and keep people from buying them.
I'd have liked them to be another $50 cheaper, but at least they weren't the originally reported launch prices of $380 and $450 for blowers.
It's about 15% better. You can simply overclock the 5700XT to nearly the same performance.
But at $515 for the pulse 5700xt vs $630 for the 2080, I'd maybe get the 2080. Idk $630 is still too much for the 2080, though.

less than 1% difference.

Yes, that would be your only reasonable upgrade while still getting good value.

Sure but a 1600 runs Cemu BotW at 60fps with dips to 50fps fine. So unless you're doing RPCS3, all you really need is a 1600.
And if you're doing RPCS3... you should really get the 3700X. A 3600 is still going to struggle.

>pcpartpicker.com/list/vyXNLJ
A 3600 is around the same power consumption for vastly superior performance.
GPU is a bit hot for such a tiny case. I'd stick with a 5700 or it's going to be screaming. If you really have to use a 250W card, get a larger case.
And you should obviously have better RAM.
>gigabyte
There's your problem. Don't get a Gigabyte board.

Got a mismatch warning on pcpart picker for the asus tuf 570 mobo and evga gd 700w PSU. I guess that mono has an additional 4 pin power for extra juice. It said it wouldn’t be a problem unless extreme over clocking, anybody fuck around with that? Seems like it won’t be a big deal, the psu is good rated non modular. Plan on running the 3700x and whatever gpu is cheapest, around the 5700x/2070s range

Holy fucking phone posting. Gold rated

Yes the node 202 is awesome. Around the size of a gaming console, even comes with a stand to have it sit vertically if you want. Always wanted to make a proper SFF build but refused to spend the $250+ on some autistic machine designed Chinese metal case on Kickstarter. Be aware though that CPU cooler selection is extremely limited so you won't be stuffing any serious CPU in there as even the Wraith Prism stock AMD cooler won't fit
>3600
As I mentioned in my prior post, Ryzen 3000 series isn't mature enough for me. Boost issues, BIOS problems, take your pick.
>Better RAM
B365 chipset only supports up to 2666MHz. Any more is wasted
>250w card, larger case
The card will be fine, the case has room for 2x 120mm fans right under the card if I wish and if I wanted a larger build, I wouldn't have done SFF in the first place

Thanks for the suggestions though. Glad to know my build is basically "it will work, but it's not top shelf". I just want to hit the button and have it fly.

Just get a high end X470 for cheap, they're better than whatever B550 that will come out, and likely cheaper too, at this point.

Yes the extra 4 pin is helpful if you're running some serious overclocking or something like 2x heavily clocked 2080Ti's so you need the extra 4 pin to held the board provide PCIe slot power. Otherwise you don't need it.

Gigabyte is the most recommended mobo for ryzen 3000. MSI is all sorts of fucked and Asus literally has one bios guy.

Thanks fren

>order an m2 drive off amazon
>turns up in a soft parcel covered in dirt with absolutely zero padding
>box looks like someone grabbed it and squeezed as hard as they could
yeah okay thanks bezos

NEW CHAD DEALS VIDEO JUST DROPPED

youtube.com/watch?v=AFv7rRYcEf8

>1TB MX500 is $90. Inland Premium and Sabrent Rocket is $110.
According to pcpartpicker, both the MX500 and Sabrent Rocket are ~$110

>AMD is selling more GPUs than Nvidia now despite the FUD some are spreading to try and keep people from buying them.
AMD is selling more graphics cards because of Polaris, not Navi. Don't conflate the issue. Small Navi blowers were pretty much immediately discounted to $330 for the ASRock model (aka plenty of stock), and the only reason that the AIB models haven't caught up yet is probably that their stock is so low, not that demand is so high. Most people don't run out to ~$400 graphics cards

based

What's the best SSD deal I can get for 1TB? The sabrent rocket?

unless something is on sale the sabrent rocket is the best value

Seems like it

>buying superior products means you are a fanboy
lol, come back when intel can soundly beat the 3700x, a cpu that can barely all core turbo past 4ghz

based

optional 4pins are basically for ln2.

That or simply getting an MX500 which are sometimes $90, yes.

ASRock is fine.

>boost issues
Still outperforms Intel despite missing 50-100mhz. Still performs as well it did on review BIOS with the current BIOS.
>B365 chipset only supports up to 2666MHz. Any more is wasted
Yes and is going to bottleneck your GPU pairing weak CPU with shit RAM making it even weaker than those benchmarks you're looking at with 3200MHz RAM.

reminder that when you have a dead component you can
>buy a prebuilt with the same component
>swap then
>send it back and get a refund because you got broken shit
>enjoy a new part for free

Cliche but don't short out on mobo, it will prevent a lot of potential frustation

Should I get the Gigbyte x570 aorus elite or Asus TUF gaming x570? Both are the same pres.

Attached: cursed thot twin.png (2048x1152, 1.83M)

Funnily enough the only things you should ever cheap out on (if you decide you want to cheap out in the first place) are the CPU and GPU, despite them being the most central part of the build. Really is amazing.

Probably shouldnt be vaping in the same room as my pc, especially if i opened up the side right?

Can I get a quick rundown on what exactly makes the MSI Zen2 BIOS for their B450s so bad?
>inb4 ">FUD"
I find it hard to believe there's such a shitfest about this for no good reason. Any info is appreciates, thanks.

msi puts all their money into hardware and nothing into software

>Yes and is going to bottleneck your GPU pairing weak CPU with shit RAM making it even weaker than those benchmarks you're looking at with 3200MHz RAM.
He's at 1440p, so a 9400F won't be a bottleneck now. Definitely cutting it close though

>Still outperforms Intel despite missing 50-100mhz.
>outperforms
Not really, they're both about equal at this point, with the 9400F edging out the 3600 right now. The 3600 will be probably end up better over the long term, but right now they're both high end

Attached: relative-performance-games-1280-720.png (500x1330, 86K)

Is stock thermal paste okay on a Ryzen 2700x?

Are triple-fan coolers necessary for a 2070s or are thick dual fans like the asus dual evo fine?

is this an actual good build?
I'm really tempted

Should I get the Gigabyte B450 Gaming X or Asus B450M Plus gaming or something else around the same price range for 3600?

2 is totally fine, 3 is usually better but often not necessary

Does the performance difference between MLC and TLC matter for an everday user to justify the price difference?