Im looking for a free service that is functionally similar to discord (without the gaming shit) that would be easy for a normie to use and cross platform (win10 osx android ios bsd ect) and please dont say irc
Free/Libre IM Services?
Ayden Myers
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github.com
wiki.mumble.info
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Nolan Long
y is he so fat
Matthew Flores
There are none. The bullshit garbage like matrix exist but they require you to sign up to their service to use it. Basically SAAS DRM.
Gabriel Jones
irc
Isaiah Lewis
You want a free service like discord? Use discord.
Cooper Hughes
rocketchat
Jaxson Baker
Riot.im
Angel Harris
you can run your own homeserver for matrix you fucking mongoloid
Leo Watson
irc
use it motherfucker
Tyler Murphy
matrix is bad
wire doesn't work very well
use XMPP + OMEMO
Signal is okay too
Thomas Campbell
genuine question, why do you think matrix is bad? also looking for a libre alternative to discord
Carter Long
lol just use discord faggot
Jose Sanchez
not server but telegram is fairly good service with Open Source clients and is normie friendly with clients for all devices.
Ethan Edwards
>identity service is centralized
>calls by default are relayed by matrix.org
>clients are all terrible
>group calling functions the same as skype (some users suggest embedding an iframe "widget" with mumble-web or another service as a workaround, what the fuck???)
>rest api is a fucking mess
Jaxon Scott
>identity service is centralized
is it? If I'm reading the docs correctly it's saying that user accounts are local to whatever homeserver you're connecting to, and it's the room data which is federated across different servers via https
>clients are all terrible
riot.im looks like it has a decent UI, which is all my friends would care about if I'm trying to convert them over
The rest of your points I can't contend with though
Juan Richardson
github.com
homeservers also store the data posted to any room indefinitely on all participating servers. All public homeservers are also slower than shit.
Caleb Collins
Ah well that seems to only be for when you sign up with an email address. Thank you for pointing it out though.
Distributing room data across federated homeservers is the point of the protocol, right? It shouldn't be a problem if the messages are e2e like they advertise.
Caleb Cox
mumble
Ian Cox
Cooper Campbell
e2e groups are a bit messy with the key exhanges, by default they are not e2e encrypted
Jason Ross
Thank you for your responses, Not gonna use matrix now lol
Christian Williams
XMPP (also known as Jabber)
It has a lot of normie-friendly clients, including retarded phone apps, but also has good clients.
Jose Ward
Tox.
Gabriel Nguyen
matrix.org
Josiah Rogers
>sign up with your email
NOPE
RMS is rolling in his grave right now at these SAAS DRM masquerading as "libre" software.
Oliver Rivera
You don't have to enter an email address to sign up unless a homeserver explicitly requires that, retard. Hell, you can post with just an automatically created guest account.