Want help? >State budget & CURRENCY >Post at least some attempt at a parts list >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on mobos with the right BIOS) >R3 2200G - Minimum 30-60fps gaming. 2400G/3400G may be worth to less likely require a CPU upgrade when adding a dGPU >R5 2600 - 60fps+ gaming CPU with great value >R5 3600 - Great gaming CPU >R7 3700X - Overkill gaming CPU >Wait for Threadripper gen3 - Extreme overkill gaming with its larger cache >R7 1700 - Budget production >R9 3900X - Professional tasks
RAM >Do NOT use a single DIMM. 2 sticks for a typical dual channel CPU >CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 3200CL16 or Micron E-die ("AES" in P/N) recommended >AMD B & X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP
GPUs 1080p >RX 570/580 8GB - Can be found on sale/used for cheap. Look for 570s which are >1240MHz boost >GTX 1660/TI / Vega56 - higher fps / more demanding games; only worth it on sale as normal cost is overpriced >RX 5700 - higher FPS 1440p >RX 5700 - standard, 70-100FPS+ gaming >RX 5700XT - higher FPS 2160p (4K) >RX 5700XT/2070S - budget option. Upscale with RIS/CAS >2080Ti - best for 4K, but poor value
>RX 570/580 stock is becoming limited as RX 5600 launch approaches
General >Yes, adaptive sync (g/free-sync) is important for gaming >HDD are defunct except for servers, NAS, and sub-$400 builds; SSDs are cheap now >Beware sites which rank CPUs by arbitrary, obfuscated scores (eg userbenchmark, passmark, cpuboss), and comparisons which only use averages and not 1% minimums nor framegraphs >AM4 VRMs, Monitors & Storage/SSD guidelines under "more"
The monitor I want to get is out of stock. Should I wait for it to come back before I start my new build, or do the build now while everything else is in stock and use old monitors for now?
Juan Ward
There's nothing else to wait for, you aren't going to suddenly get better CPU's or GPU's, I'd just do the build now and find another monitor.
Evan Williams
>i have to wait two days to pay somebody to bypass my Windows password for me Soon Soon I will be able to see if my parts even work
Carter Watson
This is false Big Navi is coming
Kevin Collins
I am hoping big navi will outperform 2080ti and cost less forcing prices to drop.
Jaxon Phillips
why put a shitty nigger
Benjamin Kelly
>OP station with his wifes daughter CAN'T MAKES THIS SHIT UP
Justin Ward
It's not coming until next year and you might as well just buy a 2080TI if you want that speed.
Brody Cooper
about to build my first (Ryzen) PC can any of you gentlemen recommend me a GNU/Linux friendly motherboard, please?! I don't want to build a high-end gayming rig so anything under 150$ (with up to 64G ram support) would be great Personally, i wanted to buy Gigabyte b450m DS3H but i don't know if i will face any issue with LAN/audio driver etc...
Theres like $40-50 difference between A320 and B450m here, and I can use that for better RAM instead. Going for r5 3600 so the entry level board is gucci.
I was looking at this or one of the new LG IPS monitors, but those look like they're out for a while.
James Ward
Assuming you're using an AMD GPU for Freesync and not an Nvidia GPU that'll be fine.
Nathan Morgan
What's the best way to erase all data / format storage (nvme in my case)? I just want for all the data, partitions etc. to disappear, empty the thing completely and then put it in a new system to install windows on it.
Josiah Perez
Let me rephrase that. I just want to simply erase all data and partitions. I don't need a secure erase, or unrecoverable erase or anything. I just want the thing to simply be empty, so I can use it for something else.
Currently my nvme has a botched windows installed, which I think has bricked my motherboard. I just want to erase everything from it before I put it in my new system. I will get an external nvme adapter to hook it up to another pc and erase it from there.
But should I just use the diskmgmt.msc format function or something else?
Jonathan Morales
Boot a GNU/Linux live cd. Type lsblk to find out which disk is which device file (e.g. /dev/sda etc). Then, execute sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=32M status=progress or sudo shred -v /dev/sda
Remember to replace the device file name with the name of the disk you want to type and be VERY careful - you can destroy other disks with dd or shred if you make a typo
Alternatively, check out darik's boot and nuke
Elijah Martinez
as I stated, I simply want to erase the data I don't need secure erase, permanent erase and especially not bullshit that overwrites it a milllion times
just a simple one time erasing of everything
Samuel Anderson
dd if=/dev/zero of= fills the disk with zeroes (so it's quick) and will destroy all filesystem setups/partitioning etc
Joshua Wood
Is there any reason for me not to get Palit GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER JetStream? Like any downsides, problems with the card?
Jackson Moore
You know exactly what this is, a modern family.
Justin Russell
thank you though I really don't want to fuck with linux and stuff I will find some other way
Nathaniel Gomez
When you're installing Windows from a USB drive for example, you have the option to do so
Justin Johnson
Sabrent Rocket seems to be way too fucking good, half the price of 970 Evo Plus while performing the same. Is there any catch to it or can I buy one?
Logan Powell
giv me ur budget and workload and ill giv u best pc for money
Right now i have an H270 shitty cheap motherboard that supports only 2400MHz RAM, with an i7-7700 (non k).
How much of an improvement would i see if i upgraded to 9700k and 3200MHz RAM with a proper motherboard? I'm talking real world performance/improvements in gayming, not synthetic scores
Several benchmarking programs tell me that my GPU (RTX 2070) and storage (m.2 nvme Samsung 970 PRO) are performing slower that expected and i think it might be due to an underpowered/outdated motherboard and too slow RAM
It's enough. Dark Rock 4 & Pro is for 3900x tier CPUs
Nolan Anderson
Are NVME drives rated to last longer than normal SSDs?
Asher Kelly
It's about the NAND-type, not the interface. Even QLC drives will virtually outlast you if you're an everday user but the price difference is so negligible that a TLC drive will be adequate for 99% of the users.
Sebastian Cox
choosing a graphics cards is really fucking me up
i was going to buy a ridiculously overpriced 1660 for 240 euros but the the 1660 ti only 30 euros more so i figured i'd get that
but at that point i would be paying so much that it would probably better to spend a bit extra and get a 5700
should i just wait for the new amd budget cards?
Ayden Carter
vega 56 for that money much more performance?
Jackson Ortiz
doesn't that card get incredibly hot?
i live in the desert and I've had issues with cooling in the summer before
Matthew Harris
no it does not, if it does model is faulty which can happen with any gpu there is, if u had any braincells u would buy used 1080 for like 280$
I've got 27" 1440p monitor. I want to be able to run Cyberpunk and other games that might come in the next 2-3 years. I'll also develop Android apps on that machine.
Is this good enough? Money is not the problem, I can afford 3900x but I don't want to overkill and overpay if I don't have to. I just want to be safe for the next 5-6 years.
That's more than good enough. 3900x is overkill for gaming.
Jace Martin
You also don't need an 850w psu. 650-750 is good enough
Easton Young
If money isn't an issue and are in it for the Long haul, invest in an X570 motherboard. Better Grams, better silicon and trace quality, as well as PCIe 4.0. plus less of a headache compared to hoping your B450 motherboard and it's BIOS will play nice with your 3900X.
Mason Brooks
>Better Grams Better VRMs*. I've been outted. I'm a dirty phone poster. I'm sorry Jow Forums
2x16GB. If you're talking higher speed RAM, the memory controller in most consumer platforms can't handle 4x8GB of high speed RAM and you may see lower speed/looser timings on 4x8 than your RAM kits are rated for because of this. Plus it leaves 2 slots open if you want to run 4x16GB in the future (and are willing to deal with everything I just said in exchange for 64GB RAM).
However if youre talking those insane kits that are ddr4 4400MHz+, you can only get those in 2x8GB because 8GB DIMMS are single rank where as 16GB DIMMS are dual rank. Single will always be capable of faster speeds.
Isaac Adams
My build is just 16GB, I fucked up the list
Cameron Morales
$1500 Programming, machine learning memes, vm work, occasional light gaming.
David Reed
for those who have the razer kraken x52 / x62, if the motherboard has no AIO_PUMP connector, how do you connect it? You put the two 4pins on both locations CPU_FAN? Does it work to adjust the pump anyway?
all this amd shilling finally got to me and I decided to get a amd cpu, but why the fuck are the x570 around 100€ more expensive than the z390 counterparts? anything they do better?
second question is whether the crosshair viii or aorus master would be the better and more futureproof board for when I am gonna upgrade the cpu in a few years
Jayden Garcia
Today's the day the 5700xt Red Devil is restocked right?
If it has Intel shit in it, it'll work just fine. Audio is also going to work OOB with no issues. Honestly, any mainstream motherboard will work fine with no issues
Jayden Morales
You mean the coil whine pill?
Justin Bennett
That seems entirely adequate. Thanks a lot.
Jose Diaz
mind that this ram easily clocks to 3200 low cl14 on 1.37v Should be meaningful uplift
I believe my GPU is fucked. An RX570 that keeps showing an inverted, distorted image for a few miliseconds every now and then. Happens frequently with Firefox or when starting any game, sometimes ingame. There's no "artifacts" I can find but it does this thing now and then and it seems to have something to do with the power states, but even with everything at default it's having issues (I underclocked that shit a little). I tried a different cable as I was suggested but nah, same shit.
Regarding temperatures it's not exactly cool either. No apparent problems with a little underclock which leaves the temps at around 70C but If I leave it at defaults it's fairly loud at 100% usage, trying to keep 75C. I don't consider that temperature to be a problem but the fans ramp up to a point where it can be heard outside the room. I'm a bit concerned about the thermal pads on it because they are fairly worn out but not knowing the exact thickness of each pad makes things a little harder (and I doubt stacking them will be a good idea).
Basically it's fucked. I tried older drivers (19.5.2), same deal. I haven't tried a different OS, but I doubt Windows 10 LTSC is the cause. Any suggestions? Should I shop for several different sizes of thermal pads? Should I buy an aftermarket cooler (though I'll be honest, that's already half the price of this cheap ass card when I bought it)? I can perfectly live with the underclock, but this thing is legit bothering me. It's almost like the screen just wants to blink every now and then.
Matthew Perez
poorfag here, i have an athlon 240ge and have a chance to get a GTX1650 for 60 bucks, should i do it? budget doesn't really allow an RX 570
Oliver Anderson
cant save up 30$ more for 570, dud just walk on the street and collect money of it jesus
Ryan Rogers
ASrock Extreme 4 ASrock Taichi Asus Strix-E/Strix-F X570 is PCIe 4.0 where as Z390 isn't. As a whole to meet compliance with the standards required of PCIe 4.0, the VRM section on most X570 boards are good, the silicon and trace quality is higher as well. But that's about it. If you have a 2080Ti, you're not going to be at 1080p more than likely. Anything 1440p or above will be more GPU bottlenecked than anything so you'd be fine even with a 9700k. However if you have the cash, get the 9900k for sure. Hell I think the 9900KF is only $420 now because they took away the iGPU. Not a horrible deal
Joseph Jackson
I'll come back in 2 hours and keep you up.
William Murphy
Not on any of the ones people actually want
David Ross
I want to overclock my 9900k. What's the best cooler to do so? I was considering the various AiO Corsair models. Anyone ITT have one? Are the pumps quiet? Any issues with failures?
Michael Hughes
yes, though the last time I tried, I ended up with unallocated disk space for no reason and I couldn't merge it with windows or any of the partitions on the os drive anymore
Owen Bell
>workstation >content creation >productivity
Cameron Gutierrez
Just boot from the latest Ubuntu on a USB and see if it fucks up. If it does, then try UC/UV. Maybe if you are already UV, bring the voltages back to stock. Don't buy an after market cooler for such a cheap GPU
Tyler Brown
is having a 2400/3400G with 16gigs of hyperfast ram good enough for 720p60fps on newer games?
Evan Torres
>720p
pls
James Roberts
What are your opinions on the Gigabyte x570 Aorus Master Motherboard? Is it good?
Personally I want it for 3x m.2 and using gigabyte app in windows to control fans. Dual BIOS also seems like a good idea for a fool like me.
James Mitchell
if you like it get it dud Asus PRIME X570-P is the best for money tho
Luis Clark
Whats a good cheap 500-600w power supply for about $60?
Carter Perry
Seasonic
Bentley Martin
I am just a bit scared of buying any motherboard, because my last one from MSI got bricked after installing their shitty software on windows... all I wanted was to control my fans without windows ignoring the set curves.
Jason Walker
dud mobo has nothing to do with you being retard just dont touch things ur not sure about and its all fine!
Ian Lee
Any seasonic? Don't PSU sometimes have radically different performance depending on model/series even if they are near same price
Aaron Jackson
Why do 240mm/280mm AiO units exist and why are people willing to pay so much for them? I have a Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 4 which is only about 1°C behind the Noctua NH-D15 in performance. I was considering an AiO unit, namely the Corsair H115i Platinum 280mm AiO (for $180!) So I can really lean on my i9-9900k but when looking around at reviews, it barely wins at all when put up against the NH-D15 which brand new is what, $90? Are AiO aesthetics reasons only or am I missing something?
>QLC NAND as boot drive You can get a TLC one for $10-20 more. Sabrent 1TB etc.
Jaxon Anderson
And whats wrong with it exactly? paying 300% of price ofr what? 15% difference at 4k dont make me laugh Aorus puts this shit to dust
Jonathan Brown
QLC is garbage for longevity and has 1/10th the write life span of MLC or TLC. And any sort of sustained writing to the QLC based drive will eventually suffer from insanely slow speed due to lack of dedicated cache because QLC uses its own storage as cache. Not even the user you're talking to but at least try and have a basic understanding of what you're talking about before you start running your mouth
Aaron Hall
As much as I hate the term, AiO coolers are pretty much memes compared to top-tier coolers. Besides they just work and if the fans die you just get a new fan rather than replacing the entire unit.
Well what the other user said. In terms of durability TLC NAND are much sturdier than QLC due to the way they work. You can get MLC 970 PRO but that shit is way too expensive and only needed if you're writing hundreds of terrabytes on the drive on a daily basis.
Eli Murphy
Seasonic S12II, 520watts?
Owen Lopez
nobody should buy a 2080ti, they're hilariously overpriced and have been out for over 1 year now. Even compared to the 2080s, which is already too pricey for the performance, and the 2080ti is $500 more expensive for what's at most a +30% performance difference.
Hunter Hernandez
the thing is that everything worked just fine for a few days right until the moment I installed msi dragon center and rebooted and it wouldn't post anymore and even after trying everything from clearing cmos, installing different bios, taking out parts etc. wouldn't make it work again
Isaac Hernandez
My MSI mobo works fine with linux out of the box in most distros. If the mobo has intel lan and realtek audio, you should be fine for the most part.
