ATTENTION: Graphics card prices are excessive by historical standards; therefore, consumers should delay or completely forgo any midrange to high end graphics card purchases. The gouging has two root causes: lack of market competition and shortage/"new normal" pricing during the mining hayday.
Want help? >State budget & CURRENCY >Post at least some attempt at a parts list >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs based on current pricing: >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing >R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming >R5 2600/X - Good gaming CPU with great value >R5 3600 - Great gaming CPU >R7 2700 - Budget video editing >R9 3900X - Professional tasks
RAM: >Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended >CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3200CL16 is ideal >AMD B and X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP
Graphics cards based on current pricing: >AAA or multiplatform games: Radeon card appropriate for your montior >PC centric games, VR games, or ray tracing: Nvidia card appropriate for your display >Used RX 570s can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty 1080p 16:9 >RX 570 8GB - good performance with great value >GTX 1660 - standard
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >Don't bother buying a new monitor for gaming unless it's high refresh with adaptive sync >A 250GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor >Bottleneck checkers are worthless
I'm trying to figure out the best airflow for my case. It has three fan mounts at the top, two mounts in the front, and one in the back. The PSU is bottom mounted with a hole for the PSU fan. I'm mostly stuck on the top three fans. I was thinking of making the one closes to the front an intake fan. The other two next to my 212 EVO could be exhaust. But should the middle fan be an intake too? Or maybe nothing at all. Don't wanna choke the heatsink.
Asking another user's question from last thread: Which of these monitors should I get? >27GL850 >VG27AQ >PX7 Prime >AD27QD
Seems like the Asus is cheaper than the others, but I heard LG has better QC.
Justin Green
Planning to upgrade my monitor and gpu but can't buy both at the same time so wondering which one I should prioritize first. Current gpu is an RX 570 which I plan to bump to a 5700 XT once the custom card prices normalize. Monitor I'm using is an old 24" lcd monitor with an ips panel which I'm planning to replace with a 144hz 1440p ips monitor.
i think my motherboard is dead. it's a ASRock Z170 Extreme7+ and over the years has gotten many bad reviews (didn't seem to be any when i ordered). I've been having problems with the pc not starting/shutting down after 20min. thought the power supply was dying, had one die a year ago. but i've tried a new one, taken out nearly every component and seen if it would work normally without it, still nothing.
is there a way i can confirm the motherboard is the problem? if i buy a new one will my OS load as normal or will i need to format? i might go AMD if that's the way i have to go
Lul. Do you now see where we are? Do you now see that a corrupt game of global-power-balancing has led us to the point that any currency not backed by mathematical proof-of-scarcity (for now?) is treated as garbage?
We gave the women and the idiot proles the vote. We did everything possible (and then some) in the name of egalite. Now we suffer the consequences.
Ayden Reed
>know basically nothing about what hardware is good and which isn't >use guides here and benchmarks to throw together a temp build on part picker to get a general idea about prices >see something a decent chunk better but slightly more expensive for almost everything (e.g. $20 for double the storage) >pick it >final tally is about 50% over budget Aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh
Hunter Green
>Sapphire Pulse 5700 XT arriving in mail today Finally; I waited so long... 6 years of the same GPU. Farewell GTX 770, you served me well and never caused any problems. Soon you'll get to rest, soon... Then I'll ship you off to Latvia to my poor NEET friend so he can deal the killing blow.
Lucas Rogers
Good case without window and the RGB faggotry? Just good quality and good fans
Gabriel Taylor
>not having a spare BIOS chip with a copy of the original BIOS to solder on in the event that the card dies so hard that you can't flash the old BIOS back A brainlet, you are, as I said.
Bad, especially in that ambient temp.
How is that cheap? That's overpriced as fuck. You're actually blind if you can't find faster drives for a lower price.
It's difficult to confirm the motherboard is the problem. you'd need a different PSU and CPU for it.
Just making things slightly better with 30% cost increases shouldn't increase it to 50%.
>pcpartpicker.com/list/fkKDCb >$40 for the wraith max just get a 3600 instead >2400MHz RAM 3200 is pretty much the same price >a400 what the FUCK are you doing >blower xt uhh >that case ... >SF PSU in ATX case okay all these fuck ups have to be bait. That's the only explanation.
Asher Moore
Crypto mining hasn't been relevant on gpus for some time now. Nvidia simply lake completion at the high end
Luis Anderson
Which is better mobo out of the x570 aorus elite and the x470 gaming 7 wifi?
Dylan Rogers
You're on Jow Forums. You're one of the proles.
Josiah Perry
two in front, one in back, two on top. you don't need anything more.
Brayden King
Meshify S2 or Meshify C if you want a slightly cheaper model with a few less features (no type C usb being a major one).
Daniel Thomas
24MK430H-B Ryzen 5 2600 + stock wraith fan XFX RX 580 8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX (2x8) DDR4 16GB CL15 ADATA SX8200 Pro 512GB (NVMe-ssd) Crucial MX500 1TB (SATA-ssd) LG CD/DVD reader MSI X470 Gaming Plus Corsair CX650M (bronze) G-fire 017 CASE fans: 1 front intake + 1 side intake + 1 rear exhaust + 1 top exhaust
What do you guys think? Hit me with your best shot. And should I move the rear exhaust fan to the top?
Kevin James
Yeah, but should the top fans be intake or exhaust? And which of the three should be filled?
Dominic Rivera
exhaust, fill the front one
Liam Rivera
Any recommendations for a good, reasonably priced pair of wired headphones, preferably with noise cancellation. Also wouldn't mind a microphone as long as the quality isn't fucked.
Jack Ward
If the front top fan were exhaust, it wouldn't really be exhausting anything except cool air from the intake and it'd choke the heatsink.
Julian Sullivan
Are you in Brazil with that meme case?
Jacob Scott
I'm also upgrading from a 770 to a 5700xt breddy soon. Havent decided on the exact card tho
Aiden Russell
2 front intake, 1 rear & 2/top exhaust. It's literally how 99.999% of people build their case & fan config. There's no reason to change away from it.
So basically what I have pictured here? I'm mostly curious about the front top fan and if I should leave it blank or make it intake. It seems wise to have the back two fans be exhaust, but I'm not sure if the front top fan being intake will create an adverse effect like some odd convection current.
Ethan Roberts
>Audio Technica ATH-AD700x Anything under 100?
Leo Parker
Like everyone said, there is no need for the top front intake, and im assuming the bottom intake is psu.
Evan Gutierrez
The crappier it looks, the better. Makes it less likely to be stolen by any fellow niggers.
>and im assuming the bottom intake is psu Yeah that's right. Anyways, I guess I'll just pop out the top front fan then and save it for when one of them fail.
Sebastian Lewis
Yes minus that one at the top that is intaking. you could remove it or make it an exhaust.
Jason Thomas
What goes into type C usb nowadays?
Anthony Hill
Right now I have all three on the top as exhaust, but I'm probably gonna pop the top front one out because I'm pretty sure it's just blowing out cool air from the intake. That's my theory anyways. I'm no physicist.
Ayden Myers
>You're actually blind if you can't find faster drives for a lower price.
>Sabrent >ADATA >Silicon Power
Yeah, no
Julian Williams
VR headsets, but DisplayPort adapters exist for those.
Carter Wood
Phones for the most part. Some keyboards & mice. A few external drives.
Jaxon Scott
Should I just buy a Windows key from ebay? I don't feel like fucking around with Chinese malware.
Josiah Flores
Should I preorder the LG 27GL850 monitor now or wait for Black Friday? Not sure if this specific monitor will have deals anytime soon
Jayden Garcia
It great but you can wait. There's other alternatives that may be on sale.
Luis Brown
au.pcpartpicker.com/list/vhbHfH Upgrading from old 2nd gen intel i5 system. Keeping GPU r9 290x for the time being, will probably grab an rx 5700 in a few months. Overall wanting new case/psu and primary system. Keeping existing storage (2xssd/2xhdd). Should I drop to 3200mhz ram or is 3600 still the sweet spot for Ryzen 3rd gen? Also sticking with a 650w psu as current one has had 0 issue running system (Corsair HX 650w) (i5 2500k at 4.5Ghz/2 ssds/2hdds/4 case fans/r9 290x) but is long in the tooth age-wise (had since 2010 so due to capacitor aging might not have much longer life). I was considering a r5 3600 but think a r7 3700x may be worth it for the 2 more cores/4 threads available.
Jaxon Hughes
What other 1440p 1ms free sync alternatives should I look out for? I choose the LG monitor since I want good color no flickering too.
Evan Sanchez
If you don't absolutely need it now I'd try to wait for a sale. Even outside of Black Friday I think Amazon and such will occasionally have minor sales. Not sure if monitors ever get a price drop in general, my guess is not really except really old shit.
Henry King
Ditch the meme case.
Hunter Russell
Trying to decide what 5700 to get, the price difference between a reference and a new cooler design is minimal
reference is $396 MSI is $402 XFX is $411
Reference XT is $440 HIS XT is $458 MSI XT is $469 (nice)
Is it worth it to spend an extra $50 on a reference XT? I'm assuming the non reference coolers are better for sound mostly, it will be crammed into a microATX case if that's relevent
Is the Zotac any different from a reference card? Thanks. I was leaning towards Asus myself.
Christopher Ross
Alternative is HWIDGEN
Jeremiah Evans
To be paired with an AMD 3600 5700XT for $446 5700 for $396
I'll be getting a reference style cooler because i'm building in an mATX style case and the blower style apparently works better in those cases
Isaiah Collins
Are AM4 2nd generation motherboards compatible with 3rd generation AM4 chips out of the box?
Ian Rodriguez
Is the thermal paste that comes with a dark rock pro 4 or noctua d15 better than arctic silver 5?
Justin Thomas
I heard 5700 is somehow more tolerable with its blower cooler. Also it depends on the overall design of the case, if you have space under the card you can get a decent airflow.
Luis Brown
D15 comes with NT-H1 which is better than the other two. Silver 5 is a little bit better than what comes with the dark rock. On the whole the differences will marginal. If you're buying a D15 then just use the H1, for anything else I'd get a Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut tube.
Joshua Wood
Holy FUCK chinks have z170 boards pre-flashed to z370 for less than $50. That's it I'm going i5 9400f. Maybe selling that r7 2700 was the right choice after all.
Cooper Wilson
I need a GPU with no 6 or 8 pin connector solely for encoding purposes with OBS, what can I use? I know the GT1030 has no encoder AMD or Nvidia is fine It is for a Mac Pro and I already use both ports to power my actual GPU
Rx5700xt thicc II for 449€ or rx5700 red devil for 469€? I was thinking about flashing the red devil's bios into an 5700xt, but im not too sure about it. Help me out here Jow Forums, im not really sure which is a better deal.
Lucas Gutierrez
I want to know if I made a mistake getting a 2700x instead of a 3600.
Mining won't go anywhere, the 'delay' may be many years or longer. Stop being bitter about mining and rather embrace it and use the card as an investment and use it for mining yourself while idle. You'll get your money back in a few years. Use water cooling if noise becomes an issue. If you keep your card under 70C, it will be just fine. Gaming is much more harmful for the card because of oscillations of heat caused expansion. I have been mining since 2016, keep them cool and dust-free. I haven't noticed any loss of performance (I have reused many cards for personal use) and 0 warranty cases. Mining is a blessing in disguise.
Nathaniel Garcia
What parts should you avoid buying used? I've heard bad things about used GPU's due to miners fucking up cards then dumping them.
Christian Smith
>Gaming is much more harmful for the card because of oscillations of heat caused expansion Warframe killed my potato graphics card. I mentioned it in the /vg/ thread and someone else said it happened to them too.
Julian Sullivan
How good is 9400F for VR? Or is an 4.1/4.2 oc 2600 better?
Also whats the cheapest gpu that gives good VR peformance? 1660/ti? 5700?
Hunter Taylor
Gigabyte's card seems good, as does red devil and Sapphire's pulse. I'm not so sure about the other power color cards as well as MSi's cards... They seem like they'd be loud or have heat issues.
Matthew Diaz
I heard it outperforms the 3600 by a notch. I don't know anything about the pricing.
Jaxson Walker
Don’t fall for the shills who are always saying “ just $X more gets you something much better”
If you keep going with that mindset it will never end. Companies intentionally create their price tiers to stimulate this psychological response and consumers fall for it.
Set your budget before even picking anything and stick to it
Jace Gonzalez
Why the fuck are there no mATX ryzen3000 motherboards?
Should I get a ryzen 2000 series motherboard that can be bios updated without a 2000 series cpu?
Chase Young
UMPCs that sound like a vacuum but have some 15W chip in them like a 3500U fucking when
Zachary Edwards
Pulse version
Jackson Wright
evga by far since they have top notch customer service and you can extend the warranty to 10 years for a small fee on their website
Matthew Powell
Help
Robert Jones
Mining gpus are actually fine. Mining psus are way worse.
Bentley Russell
gpus, psus. those are the big two.
Isaiah Robinson
It has shiny shit all over the place. Do pic related or a sleeper or whatever the ones with the really old cases are called
If you have a monitor that can benefit from the few extra fps, sure.
Gavin Gomez
PSU and maybe RAM I guess. Everything else should be fine if you look carefully , the seller offers proper information and you have some kind of buyer protection (eg. ebay)
James Mitchell
Is the Samsung 860 Evo really worth the bigger price tag over similar TLC SSDs?
Andrew Cook
What's better for video editing? 1. 2700x + rtx2060 / rx5700 2. 3700x + gtx 1660 ti 3. 3900x + gtx 1050 Is going all CPU a good decision or there are some benefits from using a decent GPU? Most of work is gonna be done in Premiere and Avid software
Jacob Martinez
What's a good brand for rx 580???
Jose Jenkins
Sapphire
Justin Reed
I can't stoop lower or else I gotta give up front vents, top vents. Those "office" pc cases are designed with zero consideration for cooling.
Blake Hall
evga
Wyatt Fisher
Sapphire's Nitro+ 1340/1400MHz stock dual bios
Dylan Campbell
>inb4 de_dust finally solved the cable management (this psu has shitload of cables and the case has 0 space)
asking (again): what is your audio solution? I'd like a balance between gaming and music listening. My headphones are only 32ohm, so I guess I don't need a particularily powerful amp
William Johnson
I'm getting a AMD 3700x. When looking for RAM, there are some "AMD Ryzen 2 tuned" chips. These are 20 euro more expensive. The clock rate and latency is the same. Is there any advantage to the tuner RAM, or is it just a meme?
Easton Jackson
I'm talking about the CMK16GX4M2B3200C16 and CMK16GX4M2Z3200C16 specifically.
David Lewis
thankyou, this is honestly nutty, why is mATX kind of going away?
