ATTENTION: Graphics card prices are excessive by historical standards; therefore, consumers should delay or completely forgo any midrange to high end graphics card purchases. The gouging has two root causes: lack of market competition and shortage/"new normal" pricing during the mining hayday.
Want help? >State budget & CURRENCY >Post at least some attempt at a parts list >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs based on current pricing: >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing >R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming >R5 2600/X - Good gaming CPU with great value >R5 3600 - Great gaming CPU >R7 2700 - Budget video editing >R9 3900X - Professional tasks
RAM: >Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended >CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3200CL16 is ideal >AMD B and X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP
Graphics cards based on current pricing: >AAA or multiplatform games: Radeon card appropriate for your montior >PC centric games or ray tracing: Nvidia card appropriate for your display >Used RX 570s can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty 1080p 16:9 >RX 570 8GB - budget performance with great value >GTX 1660 - standard
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >Don't bother buying a new monitor for gaming unless it's high refresh with adaptive sync >A 250GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor >Bottleneck checkers are worthless
>ATTENTION: Graphics card prices are excessive by historical standards; therefore, consumers should delay or completely forgo any midrange to high end graphics card purchases. The gouging has two root causes: lack of market competition and shortage/"new normal" pricing during the mining hayday. based
Wyatt Young
what case should i get Define R6 or BQ silent base 801?
Blake Scott
5700 xt lads, how are driver issues? I'm about to upgrade from a 1070 and considering a 2070 super or a 5700 XT.
I don't really trust a lot of complaints around web forums because 90% of the users are too retarded to properly uninstall drivers (rarely ever got any of the problems people would complain about en masse with nvidia drivers) so I'd figured I would ask here
>Upgrade from 1070 Literally why? That card is more than fine.
Wyatt Wood
The drivers were really fucking bad for more than a month after the release (BSODs, GPU utilixation to 100%, visual glitches and some other shit) but they finally managed to fix all of my problems so it's pretty safe to buy it now.
Mason Hernandez
for a Meshify C, what gives better thermals, 2x 140mm front fans or 3x120mm ones?
Lincoln Wilson
Meshify S2
Jacob Mitchell
it works out of the box with linux too ?
Anthony Butler
I wouldn't really recommend it. It's thin. To the point that it bend when you tighten the front fans.
Adrian Thompson
Dunno about linux.
Hudson Scott
Its math dude. Look at the CFM of the 140mm fans and multiply that by 2, the look at the CFM of the 120mm fans and multiply that by 3. Compare the totals. The ones that move more air will cool better. The 140mm will be quieter.
Liam Murphy
My ryzen 3600 gets to 84 Celsius when running a stress test in CPU z. Is this normal? I'm using the stock cooler.
Connor Moore
Don't those 9 fans fall into diminishing returns issues? There was this video showing that adding a second top fan hardly changed the temperature at all. If memory serves me right 2 or 3 front fans +1 back fan 1 top fan was the point where the temperature would drop by like 1 degree or even less with more fans.
Christopher Gutierrez
no There is something wrong with the cooling. Maybe check the paste
Ayden Cox
I used rubber rivets to mount my fans so I did not encounter this problem, buy it was thinner metal than the price point would lead you to expect. I can see how is would bow a bit if you tried to tighten them really tight. Thats true of most anything though, if you over torque a screw it can cause damage on any case.
Christian Thompson
time to wait for the msi 5700xt gaming x....thanks lads! me retarded anime poster me want upgrade
Bought 5700xt. Driver were literally garbage, the hotfix were okay but i notice more frame dips and lower fps so i rma the 5700xt and i will get my 2070s next tuesday.
Get a reference and a morpheus for best performance.
Adrian Kelly
The rubber thingies didn't secure it properly and the fans were sliding. Not to mention that it's a pain in the ass to pull them through.
Most likely. I just really wanted all the fans. I do plan to run them at half speed for a lot of air with relatively quiet system.
Camden Parker
I've already put high grade new paste on it. I'm pretty sure it's not the paste. Could it not be a software problem? Or is the stock cooler that shit?
Jason Green
Only barely worth it if you're at 1440p. 1080p not worth
Normal on stock cooler
Aaron Gonzalez
Rubber rivets have always held toght for me and I move my rig around a lot (LAN parties). Pulling them through is tough though, but it is supposed to be. My good experience may be because I used a good brand, not Chinese knock off ones. Try these:
>Normal on stock cooler Good to know, I though something could be wrong with it. Should I buy another cooler though or I'm fine with this one? I'm afraid to bend the pins again while removing the retarded amd cooler that shit just jumped together with the CPU out of the socket.
Dylan Torres
Interesting. The ones that come with the fans are different. In any case, my fan holes are ruined by the screws anyway.
I think the position of the fans matter, it's not a simple addition of how much air they move. If the 140 fans are right in the direction of the CPU and GPU, I suppose it would get better temps. Something like this
Yeah, but the thinner the rubber the less it holds. The ones I used have grips on both ends and I think that is where a lot of their tension comes from. I can see how those ones had problems tho.
Ayden Ortiz
>avoid rtx 2000 it's garbage
that's exactly why I'm waiting for RTX 3060
Ryan Collins
Well, too late for me. Woll have to stick with regular screws now.
Kevin Lewis
OK wtf I tried another stress test and the fucking CPU got to 90 degrees and he wanted to go up. But as soon as I stopped the test it instantly went back to 57. The fuck is going on?
Blake Cox
stock usually is the bare minimum for the cpu to work normal. That`s why you have custom cooling but still 83 c is much to me
Andrew Rodriguez
Might not be exactly related to PC building but I need a desk for my setup that can take the weight of a CRT. What do you recommend?
Liam Brooks
the positioning of a 120 vs a 140 in a front mount is barely going to be any different. The other fan characteristics is going to make far more difference than the size. And that difference is barely 1-2
You are drastically overthinking this Coincidentally I think I understand how the existence of people like this keep them manufacturers profitable
you can change the top and cabinets to whatever you like. this is roughly what I do and it's a great desk. I have a pretty thick solid wood piece on top of 2 filing cabinets.
Am I understanding correctly that as long as it's not an AX1200/AX Gold I can use the SATA PSU cable from any Corsair PSU in a different Corsair model?
no but i can see the item before accepting the trade, most likely can ask for some pics and what are his problems
James Thomas
>AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Wraith Prism LED RGB (3.6 GHz / 4.4 GHz) >Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE >G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32 Go (2x 16 Go) DDR4 3200 MHz CL16 >Crucial MX500 500 Go >Crucial MX500 2 To >Seasonic FOCUS GX 650 Gold >Corsair Crystal 680X RGB - Black >Cooler Master Hyper 212 >Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 5700 XT 8G >Gigabyte GC-WBAX200 For gaming (AAA games and emulation for PS2, PS3, Wii and other things) 1440p/144hz on Linux and work. Already got an aorus ad27qd. Want it to last 5+ years and probably wont OC. something better ? Went for double SSD since I dont wanna play games from my future NAS. Adata not available where I am so I took Crucial. Not 100% sure on case. Thanks for the help.
I'm a fucking brainlet with money. Which fucking mobo should I get for my 3700x if I don't want to cheap out and miss on performance but at the same time not overpay for nothing.
390 w my good, i don t think i will need anything else to keep me warm in the winter
Logan Thomas
>3700x is easy, is the b450 tomahawk max available in the store? if yes buy that one, if not then get the cheapest x570 asus motherboard, anything above that is a waste of money to the average consumer and you won't get more performance
Josiah Barnes
heard some people buy used xeons and chink boards call it great value in 2019 is this tru or intels fanatic fanbase would go that far
what about VRMs and running a 3900x for CPU intensive tasks?
Jacob Hall
b450 tomahawk should be fine but i would put a 3900x or 3950x into a x570 board and most of them are more then enough
Thomas Watson
more like amd was just that far behind intel, a fuckin x5660 that is close to a decade old oc-ed is close to an oc-ed 1600, if you get a deal on an x58 mobo with the cpu being 10 bucks is literary some of the best price/perfromance you can get
Joshua Perry
is this what u actually believe? single core for it is at least 65% worse than r1 1600, multi is not impressive either, lets not even speak about all modern features you're not going to have and how long your ''best'' ptpf wil live? it's literally laughable that anyone considers this
Connor Howard
well for someone like you, then you definitely need to get one of these if you dont want it to explode:
ASRock X570 Aqua ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Formula Gigabyte X570 AORUS Xtreme MSI MEG X570 Godlike
Jose Sanchez
>budget is roughly what's in link below (willing to do a bit more, USD) pcpartpicker.com/list/KqDYP3 >mostly gaming at 1440p >don't know what monitor yet
Would like suggestions for a better ram stick-set, cpu fan, and monitor. Had a friend say 3000mhz for the ram is enough for the 3700x, and any more won't make a difference.
don't listen to the poorfags be a good goy and buy the newest cpus every year
Gabriel Long
Won't I be missing out on performance by going with a b450? Like I said money is not a problem but like everything there's no point throwing it away for nothing.
Oliver Morris
I would say no. What if has those issues because he spilled beer on it and he is just not saying?
Logan Williams
cost of a cooler that can handle 4.5ghz? board that can handle that and for how long? reality of it and not even having usb3? Ryzen 2600 is 100eur, cooler included, warranty included, new features included, not a dead architecture etc.
If you knew anything about actual value you would not sperg out
Caleb Young
is intel or amd more tranny bros?
Jaxon Baker
4.4 Ghz baby try it oh sorry you got it only on this generation, you fuckin retarded fanboy
learning about tech from youtube videos, pls dont reply to me lmao
Evan Perez
intel for now as they are more in to the diversity thing, amd catters to weebs in japan with the anime girls mascot thing so both
Christian Garcia
Intel is Jewish therefore the progenitors of tranny shit
Blake Roberts
You said you had some extra cash so an X570 is probably the way to go, just for ease. Plus you get PCIe 4.0 and the latest mobo gen, with better support for any future CPUs that might be on AM4
Keep in mind that that's total system power consumption, but the card itself is consuming ~280W with an OC
>be a good goy and buy the newest cpus every year IMO if you're buying a fresh system, it's not really worth buying used for gaming
can t swalow facts lil amd drone? alright lmao, i was just providing evidence ya wannabe smart ass, my mobo p6t deluxe x5675 12 gb ddr3 corsair and an rx 580 gpu costed me 200 bucks combined 1.5-2 years ago
Jack Rivera
based chad deals
Levi Evans
Is it better to get a 15cl 3000mhz or a 16cl 3200mhz for a 3700x?
Julian Williams
>that first video fucking millennial politics garbage
Thomas Campbell
why is mini smaller than micro?
Aaron Richardson
>16cl 3200mhz cause its easier to tighten timings than to push higher mhz when its significant just get gskill
Caleb Harris
What's bigger, a micro mountain or a mini water bear?
Alexander Allen
>how are driver issues? which ones, the only ones I can comment is issues with old games.
Ryder Brown
when has any computer hardware naming ever made sense, just be glad they didn't call it A33352-U349
Brayden Stewart
unless you want a pcie gen 4 ssd then you shouldn't, just be sure to update the bios when it comes out for your motherboard
Joshua Bailey
would a 2600 be a worthy update from a i5 3570k? I'm having issues running MHW and it seems the cpu is my problema. My GPU is 1050 ti but I run at 1080p.
Samuel Bell
REEEEEE My new PC build wouldn’t start so I went to some old boomer’s house and he fucked up a SATA port! That retard had a decade old monitor too
why is the meshify shilled so hard in this general? I mean it's got ok temps for CPUs but the temps for GPUs are worse and CPU temps can be higher but higher GPU temps lead to throttling?
