/pcbg/ - PC Building General

AMD has recently been found to be lying about fixing their CPU boosting problems for the ryzen 3000 series. In the USA, due to price cuts, intel provides better value at the sub $200 market and $300+ market.
>Assemble a part list
pcpartpicker.com/
>How to assemble a PC
youtu.be/hGiAfMoYEjI?t=92

Want help?
>State budget & CURRENCY
>Post at least some attempt at a parts list
>List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)

CPUs
>Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming
>R3 3300G - Minimum 30-60fps gaming.
>i5 9400g - 60fps+ gaming CPU
>i7 9700k - Perfect gaming CPU for ultra settings 1080p and higher resolutions
>R7 1700 - Budget production
>i9 9900kf - Multithreaded version of the 9700k, perfect for gaming/streaming/productivity

RAM
>Do NOT use a single DIMM. 2 sticks for a typical dual channel CPU
>>Since zen2 does not benefit much from faster ram, 3000 CL15 is fine for both intel/amd builds.

GPUs
1080p
>RX 570/580 8GB - Can be found on sale/used for cheap. Look for 570s which are >1240MHz boost
>GTX 1660/TI / Vega56 - higher fps / more demanding games; only worth it on sale as normal cost is overpriced
>RX 5700 - higher FPS
1440p
>RX 5700 - standard, 70-100FPS+ gaming
>RX 5700XT - higher FPS
2160p (4K)
>RX 5700XT/2070S - budget option. Upscale with RIS/CAS
>2080Ti - best for 4K, but poor value

>RX 570/580 stock is becoming limited as RX 5600 launch approaches

General
>Yes, adaptive sync (g/free-sync) is important for gaming
>HDD are defunct except for servers, NAS, and sub-$400 builds; SSDs are cheap now
>Beware sites which rank CPUs by arbitrary, obfuscated scores (eg userbenchmark, passmark, cpuboss), and comparisons which only use averages and not 1% minimums nor framegraphs
>AM4 VRMs, Monitors & Storage/SSD guidelines under "more"

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cnet.com/news/intel-to-pay-amd-1-25-billion-in-antitrust-settlement/
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So if my options are the 2 fan Powercolor AXRX 5700 XT for $410 or the 3 fan PowerColor Red Devil for $450, is that extra fan worth the $40? Logic says no but then I don't know how much difference that 3rd fan makes.

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>no look at the heatsink
>the heat pipes
>the fin stack
>the pcb
>the VRM
yeah, lets look only at fans

This

You are implying a level of technical competence and knowledge that if I possessed would mean I wouldn't be here.

>3300G
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>zen2 does not benefit much from faster ram
Infinity fabric and memory controller can usually be overclocked to 1700-1800Mhz.

2 fan & good heatsink = quiet operation & no throttling
Eg: youtube.com/watch?v=FQJCm7bnOfU

Go look up if there are reviews out for 2 card you picked out.

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You are implying I want you to stay retarded forever.
I'l help you, but much like your cunt father, I will teach you to fish, rather than stick a fish down your throat.

How about you look up reviews of the two cards you are considering, and take a screenshot of the things listed.

>change the frequency to a higher value
>drop timings to shit to compensate
WHATS THE POINT?!
If you keep the true latency low, there is no fucking point in changing one or the other value.
IT's the combination of both frequency AND timings that gives you true latency value and games scale on that.

show your own benchmarks then