Will you ditch your shitty thinkpad/desktops for this little beast?

Will you ditch your shitty thinkpad/desktops for this little beast?

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No. The applications I use are only compatible with the x86 arch.

Can you combine it with a screen, keyboard, and touchpad? No? Then it can't replace a laptop.
Can it be used for gaymen? No? Then it can't replace a desktop.

I have an RPi 3 Model B. It's definitely not my main computer (I have a MacBook Pro) but it's cool for playing around with.

I recently compiled a hardware accelerated version of mpv for the Pi. And it runs great. I can watch 1080p stuff flawlessly and it's only using like 5% CPU. And it only runs a couple of degrees above idle.

That new one has a big advantage though - 4 gigs of RAM. The 1GB I've got on mine is fine for watching videos. The cache of mpv never gets that big. But the 1GB is a severe limitation if you need to look up something on the web. It's fine if you only have a couple of tabs open, it's no problem. But as soon as you hit the limit, it will start thrashing the swap file. At which point everything grinds to an agonising halt.

>Can it be used for gaymen? No? Then it can't replace a desktop.

>Playing games in 2019

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>4 GB of RAM

have you already picked out what three tabs you'll have open in Chrome?

Probably once the RPI 5 with USB4 comes out in ~5 years, yes.

Chrome doesn't run in ARM, you got to use Firefox. Which gives you a breathing room of about 2 or 3 additional open tabs!

only if someone builds a case for it with a built-in screen and keyboard

greatest portable computer/emulator that ever there was???

I'm shitposting on one now. It's based. Unixbench gives about the same results as a trannyboot x200.

>Chrome doesn't run in ARM
ARM Linux*
Just use chromium anyways. Fuck chrome

Give more opinion, how's libreoffice/youtube/gimp? - Waiting for mine.

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>no m.2
YIKES

all three work great

got firefox and chromium running at the same time
total used free shared buff/cache available Mem: 3947004 1157356 877688 192212 1911960 2446544

This thing needs a SATA port, damn.

>gaymen
grow up

When my x220 dies, yeah...I probably grab one and just use my tv as a monitor.

I only use my laptop for reading articles on reloading and watching DIY how-to youtube vids.

It's a glorified NUC

nothing new

I'll grow up right into your mothers hole so your baby brother can be born and grow into a real man unlike the failure your parents created.

just use an rpi on your tv

nice big font, full screen console, it's comfy af

pi came out years before nuc

get with the times intel pajeet

>not having a hobby in the current year
have sex

There's way better board for same price

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the pi will be supported in 10, 20 years

not so your mystical chinkboard

unsupported trash

this junk won't even stream 4k movies on Plex

Bull fucking shit, NUC came out with sandy bridge

Raspberry pi came out 2012/13

another name is UCFF

AMD didn't even make ITX AM3+ suck my ass

Raspi was $30 and NUCs were $700.

>switching a real PC for smartwatch-tier hardware
I'll pass. It's too bulky for real embedded shit and too weak for anything useful.

>I want a devboard but I don't want to develop

Most of these chinese mysterymeat boards use undocumented hardware with little to no driver support and their own proprietary patches over the mainstream linux kernel and most of them will never make it upstream so you're fucked if you ever want to a newer kernel unless you're willing to reverse engineer everything and add your own support for a (soon to be) discontinued product.

>raspi zeros been out for years
>nobody's made a tiny PDA with a full keyboard and a screen
Basically something like like a pocketchip except not stuck on dead-end hardware.

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Chad-board coming through

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not OP but from what i understand you completely missed his point.
>Will you ditch your shitty thinkpad/desktops
by shitty i understand old/slow machines. and yes, you can combine it with keyboard/touchscreen/whatever. im in a middle of fun project like that. as such OPs question is legit.

I would be a great staring point to build your own laptop.
The problem is to get compatible DSI screens that are greater than 7".
Anybody know of some?

>4 GB RAM
Top kek. Get back to me when you have one of these with an option for 512 GB of RAM.

>the pi will be supported in 10, 20 years
AHAHAHAHAHAHA, no you absolute faggot

>Can you combine it with a screen, keyboard, and touchpad?
yes?

Have you tried x265 encoded videos?

Probably overheats like a motherfuck.

It doesn't have AES instructions and therefore it is unusable for my purposes. End of discussion.

I got mine with a Flirc case and it BARELY holds from overheating. Cooling is mandatory on these fuckin' things

Pfsense?

>supporting 2 x 4k displays
Yeah at what? 15 fps?

>screen, keyboard and touchpad
yes
>gaymen
dwarf fortress, nethack, crawl and MUDs work on it
the rest is irrelevant

Question: does the Rasberry use open source bios? Is big brother in the pie? Can play movies to the big screen tv? Curretnly looking into a HTPC.

Odroid N2 with U3 microsd is enough for browsing and watching movies

I'll buy one once the hw revision is out
arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/07/raspberry-pi-4-uses-incorrect-usb-c-design-wont-work-with-some-chargers/

Has anyone made a NAS from the pi4? If so hows it working for you?

That's what qemu is for

I mean I guess it's probably faster than my A475 (anything is) but nah.

It can do all that. I use it for Retropie on my 3B.

What Retro games yall playing ?
I'm on Pokémon Stadium
Jurassic park 2 SNES
Kirby 3 SNES

You cannot emulate x86 processing on arm without literally unacceptable performance. Been there myself, and it's quite obvious when you think of it.

>thinking videogames is a hobby in 2019

Final Fantasy Tactics.
PSP.
On a Vita.

Don't think so. H264 and VP9 though, yes. When I watch YouTube vids it looks like they're either H264 or VP9. And like I say, for those things, it works great.

If you're interested, this is the guide I followed to get the hardware accelerated MPV: raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=199775

Basically you have to compile it from source yourself. I don't know why the guy hasn't just released binaries. But whatever. It takes 57 mins to compile on a Pi 3 Model B (it's not just compiling MPV, but also FFmpeg and other dependencies). And you have to blow a fan onto the Pi for the duration, in order to keep it cool enough. But you don't necessarily need heatsinks, I didn't. I just got a desk fan, and hung the Pi over the top of it using the HDMI cable (with the fan sitting on top of the cable to keep the cable held in place). It worked fine.

user, I...

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This one is based on Rockchip RK3399, which is supported fine in latest mainline kernel (5.3). I prefer Amlogic, though.

>compatible DSI screens that are greater than 7".
>>wanting a screen for a portable computer bigger than 7"

I was thinking about getting one, but when I thought about what I might use it for, I couldn't come up with a satisfying answer.

You can, depending what you do.
It's just retarded to do so when native hardware is cheap and available.

No, but I ditched my server.
Pi 4 + couple USB 3.0 3.5" HDD RAID boxes

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All that Lego, won't it just insulate heat? Which obviously is not what you want. Surely a more barebones case would be better? It shouldn't get dust on it if the fan is spinning which should blow the dust away. And a bit of dust is harmless anyway.

You do see the fan and openings?

My tests are as follows:
28C with heatsink and fan inside case.
30C with heatsink and fan laying on top without case.
50C with heatsink and no fan.
80C with no heatsink and fan.

The fan is running at 5V, so the airflow is minimal but the Pi will never draw more than 10W, so it's all you need. I tried to design the case so it blows air over the 1GbE ethernet and USB 3.0 controller also and it seems to work well and that's probably where the case and no-case temperature differences come from, since the SoC heatsink with minimal airflow already saturates the thermal throughput.
The bottom of the Pi is also covered with a big heat-pad that connects it directly to the plastic on the bottom.

I've already ordered a passive heatsink case before I built the Lego one, but now I'm thinking that the passive one will probably not even be as good and the size difference is irrelevant at such small sizes on a device that gets velcroed to the back of a table.

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have. sex.

>thinkpad
The Pi is not a laptop, you know.

Abstain.

Snapdragon 8CX dev board then talk

dur. ex.

>Ryzenfall right on your GPIO
Yikes

>Can you combine it with a screen, keyboard, and touchpad? No?
YES
but you cannot use it for gaming - there you are right.

I'm playing Diablo 2 on my Pi 3...

>almost a real pc but not really

literally why if you can have the real thing?

ok, you do somewhat counter my argument, but ... you play a game that is 20 years old and you are probably using exagear emulation, or qemu or something like that.

No. Why would I?

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>Chrome doesn't run in ARM
But ... But ... But my phone has an ARM CPU, and it does have chrome ... And it run fine ...

I'll be ditching my desktop for it. Smaller footprint, silent, less bloat, just enough for office-type work, so minimal distractions for maximum monk-mode.

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>you play a game that is 20 years old
Why would you willingly do that to yourself?

>non-specific Ryzen 7
The fuck?

Also it looks like you have a 2TB SSD and an 8TB HDD internally, and then three external HDDs over USB (2 x 2TB and 1 x 3TB), is that right?

Why do you keep buying external HDDs? Using up three USB ports is a lot. Why not make a couple of them internal? And what the fuck do you have on all that storage anyway? Please don't say porn because that would be fucking pathetic.

My desktop is mainly for gaming and programming. It has 32 GiB of RAM not for any particular reason other than that'll be the standard one day and it was a bargain at the time. I wouldn't replace that with an ARM based platform.

My server is x86 and runs Ubuntu Server with a ZFS array for my family's storage needs. It also does other things though like acting as a DVB-S2 box. The versatility of it makes replacing it with an ARM based solution difficult.

I'm not against the principle though: I replaced my HTPC with a Amlogic box and it does everything the HTPC did at a far cheaper price whilst using much less power and having a much smaller footprint. It's not quite as good though: scaling isn't as good and deinterlacing is pretty poor. I wish there was a way of getting decent performance for those tasks without resorting to an x86 PC with a good GPU.

So can you just plug in a USB-C adapter into a wall outlet to power this thing?

diablo 2 is fun though. most games after 2016 and even 2012 suck, so there really is something like a set of old golden games. I still think that POE is better, but POE is not going to be playable on the raspberry pi.

>28C with heatsink and fan inside case.
>30C with heatsink and fan laying on top without case.
Is that simply due to the mounting of the fan though? E.g. if you removed some of the Lego bricks that aren't structural for keeping the fan in place, do you reckon it might run cooler?

Or maybe I'm wrong. Maybe the Lego helps keep the airflow directed over the chips. But the hot air has to go somewhere of course.

I am a bit out of the loop with these things. Can you play netflix on them natively yet or do you still have to use some weird hack to get it to work?
I am a lazy person and I just want some libreelec style distro I can throw on it and watch a tv series or something.
Can you do this with these things yet?

If your adapter supplies the right power (I assume 5V, because that's what my Pi 3 needs) then yes. As for amps, I think I've read on the internet that a device only draws the current that it needs? So if your adapter was rated for 3A, and the Pi only needs 2A, I think you can still use that adapter without burning the Pi (or any other device) out, right?

Could be either one to be honest, but the difference is irrelevant enough to not matter. At first this was supposed to be more of a joke and I'm surprised it worked out as well as it did.
The case has 3 openings plus a long piece with holes, I'm pretty sure the output is enough to saturate the airflow the fan causes, since there isn't any massive air movement. I guess as far as thermals go, the case is pretty transparent and probably slightly helps as it directs more over the USB and ethernet controller.

Pi 3 and below need 2A, but will work with 1A.
Pi 4 needs 3A, but will work with 2.4A.

I've run a Pi 3 off a cheap 1A USB charger for years constantly and didn't have any problems and this was with a USB powered microphone connected to it and a 200MHz overclock, I just forced the power warnings to shut up. Wouldn't recommend it though since even a high end USB-C 15W charger costs like 10 euros these days. Pretty sure the audio cracking I occasionally had was the result of underpowering the Pi 3 too, since it went away after swapping out the power brick.

>needs
More like, is recommended. Since it obviously works with less.
But yeah, it will only draw as much needed, so always have a slightly beefier supply and you'll be fine.

I might have considered if it I didn't use software that runs only on x86 (OpenMPT via wine) and if only it didn't have issues with crappy audio and graphics driver problems

Audio isn't as much of a problem since you can use USB DACs.
No idea about graphics though, as far as I've played around with Qemu-i386+Wine / Exagear+Wine it's been fine. Plus decoding works well for many formats.

Can you get this for cheaper than $35/shipped with 14 inch monitor/keyboard/mouse/250GB HDD and is more powerful than sandybridge mobile dual-core?

No I don't think I will. Not until it can run the same applications as my shitty Thinkpad (W530 btw) and desktop.

Lookup the Pi Top

Fun things are fun.

>Speccy
Why are people still using this pozware?

how?
now I am interested

Zen 2 too new for old Speccy.
What's weird about the storage?

Exagear. It's discontinued now so you can find it for free with a licence.
Otherwise, set up Qemu-i386 binary translation and a Wine x86 chroot yourself, Exagear is faster though.

Shit like Diablo 2 will work on a OpenPandora to a Pi 1. Even N900.

>typing with thumbs
same tier as boomers typing with one finger