why is the left anti-electric cars?
>push hybrid memes
>incentives ends, now push full electric.
>hybrid are barely affordable to some middle class people.
>demand every one use electric
>thinks everyone can afford to pay a 40k telsa.
>rage when they see big suv and trucks
>not understanding that if you are gonna spend 25k and up on a car you might as well get a useful car, instead of sub compact mobile that rune on electric or hybrid that is already comparable to the normal subcompact with a motorcycle engine.
Why is the left anti-electric cars?
>why is the left
name non-leftist pushing electric cars on people when it is a retarded idea, and think everyone can afford a 30k car.
Fuck off
Okay this is epic
>look at these stupid lower class uneducated inbreds
>im a leftist btw
You people are far worse than whatever boogyman you decry. Talk about the subject or piss off and go back to your subreddit.
>FOR THE WORKER
>lmao take yer herbs right dumb hick? Just work harder slave!
I thought leftists were for electric cars, though. One actual reason that I can imagine for social democrats to be against them is that they're expensive as shit, and doing things like e.g. only allowing electric cars in some places would benefit only the ones who can actually afford them. But that's probably a topic for Jow Forums.
>the left
What does that even mean?
Because left want to be like kings in their personal jet, bought on your money, and you will be in smelly bus or subway.
They don't care about environment,
If they cared about environment, they would have banned inefficient cars already.
Hybrid transaxle used on Prius may reduce CO2 emissions 1,5 - 2 times, without compromising performance.
You can buy one of many different varieties of used electric cars for $10k or less
Teslas are for jeets. Electric mass transit is the future. As the population grows traffic will become so unbearable that people will finally see how retarded our motorist based economy is. People will switch to mass transit supplemented by self-driving electric taxis to fill in the gaps.
t. Cityfag
>Electric mass transit i
Mass transit.
Fuck it. Fuck fuck f-fuck it.
Filthy and disgusting commie-ridden desease spreading shithole. You better walk, than use anything (((public))) transport.
Future of transport is this. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like. We need more power, and water resistance. Heating is a meme.
That's enough to buy me 2 maybe 3 months of rent in Vancouver.
It's very ironic that conservatives would want to use an anime website out of all places
Yes, cars are not cheap. What's your point?
What does anime have to do with not being a "conservative" tardo
Because it's the "degenerate" shit that they claim to hate so much
>all anime is "degenerate"
First off youre retarded. second off not all conservatives follow abrahamic ideas of what is "degenerate" or not and many anime promotes very indo European outlooks and values. Like AOT, berserk, Vinland saga etc.
You have an extremely ignorant view of what is "conservative".
*animes
>why is the left anti-electric cars?
Is it not obvious by now?
>that pic
reads like a rapturite sermon lmao
Who /tesla/gang
>the left is anti-electric cars
>the left demands everyone use electric cars
>Board posting
Jow Forums is tech Jow Forums now. Reddit is waiting for you with open arms.
Now fuck off faggots.
Hair Grorious Dai Nippon Teikoku!
Castrate yourself
Where is Stallman?
You mean the creator of LinuxTechTips? He's castrated too.
Jow Forums needs to stay on its containment board
Otherwise you should be banned for posting on the wrong board
I wonder how that happened.
You need to take the price argument into account to make sense.
"If you can't buy a tesla, you should just KYS"
It means whatever triggers me and my Jow Forums friends, obviously.
A tesla costs 40k? People kept saying it was expensive but I was thinking about 100k up prices.
>THE LEFT IS AGAINST X
>turns out it's actually the right and the right is shitposting to make the left look bad
Every fucking time, Jow Forums.
Noice capacitor
Both sides are retarded in this case.
One plain don't want it, the other thinks everyone is rich and can afford it.
"you should not drive a gas car because I can pay for an electric with my daddy's money".
>It's the conservative right Jow Forums represents
>Actually it's the corpratist neoliberal shills that wear red ties
You're really making me think, user.
Uncle Ted told you not to trust the left. That includes republicans.
The trick is that burgers have been trained since birth to only consider the existence of two sides, which both are mostly identical. In the end it doesn't matter whether the slightly more conservative or the slightly more """democratic""" one (lol) wins.
>left vs right
>implying
>the political quadrant is a line
>implying
They're pretty different, mostly because they're backed by different groups of megacorporations.
You're choosing between coca cola buying the government and lockheed martin buying the government.
$30-40K is a normal price for a new car.
>Yes, cars are not cheap. What's your point?
Cars are pretty cheap actually
>buy jap beater for $1500
>put $500 in maintenance and parts that it'll probably never need again
>spend fuckall in gas because jap efficiency
>spend fuckall in insurance because old commuter car
Electric cars will never be this cheap
>tells people to go to reddit
>uses reddit spacing
Just the fact that they are both backed by corporations makes them very similar
Over time they become cheaper. Cost to charge a 30kwh battery that will go 100 miles is less than a gallon of gas.
Let me know when economy gassers hit 100+mpg
Reddit spacing
I don't have a problem with electric cars, but if you think you're helping the environment, you're kidding yourself. The electricity you filled the car with was still generated by fossil fuels, and that car probably took more energy to make than a traditional car with a combustion engine.
Hybrid cars are probably better than electrics, but it depends what type of hybrid it is. The best "hybrids" are just electric cars that have gasoline/diesel generators that kick in when needed.
>Fossil fuels
Even in the worst case you're still getting better than the average cars mpge
Batteries don't last forever, by the time depreciation hits enough for even the most poor of poors to afford the car itself they will already need a new battery
We already have trouble making a smartphone battery last more than 3 years I doubt you can make an electric car battery last more than 10
>Not buying 15,000 gallons of gas with the $38,500 you save by buying a used beater car.
>Not going 9.3+ times the circumference of earth.
>Buying a new car when a car with 10k miles on it is vastly cheaper
>Spending $40k on a car
Electric cars use batteries in very very narrow range. They charge them up to 4.0V I believe, and discharge to 3.4V. Per cell, of course.
Also they are using top quality cells, so it might even last 10-15 years.
Smartphone batteries are not BEV batteries.
>Single cell, absolutely 0 provisioning, sometimes questionable quality, no thermal management
Vs
>Many cells, good provisioning, top quality cells, at the very least passive thermal management
I probably won't touch electric cars til we move on from lithium ion batteries. I hear they are working on making batteries that run on carbon and salt water; that'll be a good time to shift to electric vehicles.
Everyone should just ride super cubs.
>what is cost of ownership
when you're paying 25c a mile to drive your gas guzzling truck around in California it makes a difference
the difference between research and practical product is like 5-10 years
Just because I support workers' rights doesn't mean I have to support workers' fucktarded anti-egalitarian ideals. In fact, it means the opposite, since workers are brainwashed into standing against their own best interest.
There has been research on new battery tech going on for much longer than 10 years
Not a single peep on one
Either batteries are very difficult or there is something else going on and lithium batteries just happen to be too good of a planned obsolescence thing
>everyone talking about cheap and fuel efficient transport
>no one mentions the bicycle
cars are a horrific money sink and a waste of resources no individual should be allowed own one
>using egalitarian as a good word
Holy fuck please kill your fucking self.
>standing against their best interest
Competing with third world faggots and providing global markets for corporate shills isnt in their best interest. Neck your god damn self.
Commie.
Give me your PC, Celeron @ 1,0 GHz with Intel HD is more than enough computing power. No individual should be allowed to own anything more powerful
I think once we get a breakthrough on the battery technology these cars are going 5k miles on a single charge like an oil change
>rune on electric
yo that sounds fucking tight, i love moonrunes and nikola tesla
No
cute, the autist with his looonux responded
Texas here. Fuck off. Sometimes you need to go more than 15 miles on your own schedule.
lol just hop on a train retard
The grid needs a serious overhaul before everyone and their wifes son starts driving EVs instead of regular internal chadbustion cars. Also things like construction machinery/equipment wont be replaced by electric batteries until theres some serious advances in battery technology. I cant imagine an electric asphalt roller or an electric front end loader being cost efficient with current battery tech.
>t. commercial electrician
>Leftists want to abolish corporations
>That means they are corporate shills
???
the power of the Jow Forumsish mind
easy just use birds on it
>leftists want to abolish corporations
BAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
>name non-leftist pushing electric cars on people when it is a retarded idea
General Motors
large mind big boy big boy big brain
>standing against their own best interest.
How does opening the borders to labor competition and getting rid of the industries they work in serve their best interest?
You leftists are comically out of touch with the average Joe.
How can corporations exist when private property doesn't exist?
>opening the borders to labor competition
the leftists who want open borders want it because they see the people coming across the borders as workers too
Interestingly enough, porky also wants the borders open for these workers.
interests can align. the most coherent position would be trying to get these workers unionized
Car culture in general needs to die. There's no reason for everyone to have their own car.
>have to commute an hour every day from buttfuck nowhere to a city
yeah, definitely don't need a car.
>the leftists who want open borders want it because they see the people coming across the borders as workers too
>implying conservashit business owners don't also value dirt cheap off the books labor
ask your politician for trains retard
We used to have passenger trains until they were all privatized and dismantled by the auto industry
>"Liberals" = Marxists
>Conservatives = Facists
>Centrists = Pussies
Woah, I'm a modern day political think-tank!
>"Liberals" = Marxists
lol
Liberals are just barely to the left of republicans. Take the shitty ACA for example. ALL MIGHTY INSURANCE INDUSTRY PLS LOVE US
>Jow Forums needs to stay on its containment board
>Otherwise you should be banned for posting on the wrong board
Fucking AMEN.
>off the books labor
>first we make the labour pool as large as competitive as possible
>then we try and unionize
I bet the capitalists like this plan too.
if the center is a pussy then what are the left and right? hype-inflated clitoris?
>all leftists are against private property
>oy vey let's hand it all over to the state and be ruled by one gigantic all powerful TOTALLY NOT CORPORATION instead!
>all leftists want 100% state control over all industry
You only get banned for posting politics on Jow Forums when you say something bad about capitalism
Swollen labias