/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

OH FU- edition

Don't buy anything OTHER THAN IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad T, X, and W/P Series if you want the Real Business Experience™
>Other business laptops are welcome in /tpg/ (Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).

Why ThinkPad?
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap
>Excellent keyboards
>Great durability (excl L and E series)
>Utilitarian design
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop
>Most models are easy to repair, upgrade & maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model and spare parts are easy & cheap to obtain
>The best TrackPoint™, easier to use when typing
>Good for Hackintoshing

Libreboot-compatible models:
>T60 (check lcd), X60(s/t); X200(s/t. -s requires soldering), T400(s)/500; W500
Models before *40 series can be Corebooted

Modern models:
>X220/X230 - 12", 768p, cheap
>T420/T430 - 14", 900p, widely available for a good price, socketed CPU (Ivy Bridge CPU support on T420); Quad Core Compatible
>T520/530; W520/530 - 15", 1080p, DTR, 32GB RAM on quadcore models, USB 3.0
>T440s - best price/performance ultra portable
>T440p/540p; W540/1 - Last Thinkpads with socketed processors, easily replaceable trackpad (W541 doesn't need trackpad replacement)

Chink Upgraded models:
>X210 - X200/X201, i5 8250u quadcore
>X62 - X61, i5 5250u
>T70 - T60, i7 7700 hq
IPS displays, USB 3.0, m.2 x4, miniDP
forum.51nb.com/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=117

>ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads & running GNU/Linux on them:
thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
>BIOS logo booru:
biosimage.booru.org

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Other urls found in this thread:

notebooksbilliger.de/produkte/t440p
itsco.de/Article?s=t440p&sort=6
greenpanda.de/refurbished/de/shop/?shop_category=search&input_search=t440p
ebay.es/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T440p-i5-4300m-4GB-500GB-Win-10-Pro-Mwst-41/232901268690?hash=item3639ff54d2:g:GtMAAOSwIFtaL~0W
ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X220-12-5-2-5-GHz-i5-4-GB-RAM-128-GB-SSD-Teildefekt-482/143237342895
linrunner.de/en/tlp/docs/tlp-linux-advanced-power-management.html
notebooksbilliger.de/lenovo thinkpad t440p 418715/eqsqid/aba1ba04-bea0-4d7d-8604-522fb223cdc9]]
notebooksbilliger.de/lenovo thinkpad t440p 624703/eqsqid/aba1ba04-bea0-4d7d-8604-522fb223cdc9]]
itsco.de/notebook-lenovo-thinkpad-t440p-intel-core-i5-4300m-vpro-2x-2-6ghz-20aw-23865.html]]
greenpanda.de/refurbished/de/shop/notebook/LENOVO-THINKPAD-T440P/?card=2965]]
aliexpress.com/item/32999662913.html
ebay.es/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T440p-Laptop-i5-8GB-RAM-DVD/183860796122?hash=item2acef51ada:g:t6sAAOSw5ZRdEiyv
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last thread:

What is a list of models of thinkpad/non thinkpad /tpg/ approved laptops that I could realistically find under $100 so I can give my boomer mother something other than a phone to use the internet on?

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Reposting because the thread died

I've reduced my options to 3 different stores. Can you please let me know if I should order from one of them or if they're too expensive?

1. notebooksbilliger.de/produkte/t440p
2. itsco.de/Article?s=t440p&sort=6
3. greenpanda.de/refurbished/de/shop/?shop_category=search&input_search=t440p

I need your help on this, /tpg/. Help out a newcomer. Thanks in advance.

X220, T420
X230, T430 if you're lucky

Tryfinding one locally via ebay kleinanzeigen

T61/400/410/420/430
4GB ram, 120 SSD and Win10LTSC to make them think it's a new computer, not recommended to get X series since old people like them large screens.

>T61/400/410
>Win10LTSC
terrible idea

Are the prices in the links really that bad?

Hey newcomer, here's an advice, instead of making us click 3 links and babelfish them because we're not fucking Nazis, why not list them as such
A)i5 blah blah
4gb ram
500gb HDD
Dog shit screen
$200 freedom bucks
So we can quick glance and tell you. You're the one asking for a favor, so why are we the ones doing all the work? One time effort from you vs multiple clicks by multiple people. Stop being so self centered you don't rule the world anymore.

I'm running it on a T400 and a 128GB SSD. No issues at all for web browsing and facebook shit you nigger.

>Win10LTSC
it'd be linux

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What's the newest thinkpad I can get that doesn't have a trackpad?

A really shitty x series one.
You know you can disable it in the BIOS, right?

I did not know that, but really shitty laptops are my middle name. I'm gonna take a look on eBay.

The trackpoint isn't too great on modern thinkpads btw, you'll likely be using the touchpad anyway

I'm not actually German, but that's a good point. The problem is that there are several models.

What do you guys think of the T510 vs the 20 or 30?

The god.

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I use the trackpoint almost exclusively on my T430, the trackpad gets in my way more than I use it. I think I will disable it in BIOS, see if I actually use it more than I think I do.

It all shows t440p on the URL, then just add a model number to the list so we know what we're comparing.

>for a old female boomer
No you don't you fucking pedo.

Reposting my question from previous thread

>I got spoiled by macbook pro’s high ppi (retina) screens. What are high ppi thinkpads? I used to have an x220 and I hated the screen

>ok but what was the macbooks actual resolution
2560x1600

>buy an ips panel fucknut
I don't want an external monitor

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Retina is a meme.

That's 1280 * 800 you dumb marketing monkey.

A panel is not a monitor you fucking curry shitter.

I wish Thinkpads had GPUs.

I did this year's ago and have no regrets, no more accidental touches with my palms.

you can buy a full hd panel for an x220, it'll look great for the 12" screen.

My W700DS says hi.
More than 100fps in TF2.

Something from this decade please

>Retina is a meme

How is High PPI a meme

I have a similar question, but more for the sound quality and battery life. Are there any thinkpads (thinkbooks maybe?) that make as good media consumption devices as macbooks? Should i just put Linux on a Chromebook? Wait for the pinebook pro?

T510 has broken USB ports and meh CPUs. The dedicated GPU models break
T520 is okay, the first model with nvidia optimus if you care about that
T530 has the shitty keyboard layout and can't easily be flashed with the unlocked bios. Only upside is slightly better iGPU
None of these have terribly great build quality, expect the plastic edges to chip and the palmrest to become smooth.

The W and P series workstation have discrete GPU too. And my W700DS has a 8800 GT equivalent so it's still relevant you nigger.

literally who

>8800GT

I want to play real games.

>pixel density is a meme
nigga u dumb

It runs FFXIV on 60 fps, it runs TF2 on 60 fps, it runs dota 2 on 60 fps. These are real games.

i hate to come to the ass with the laptop everyone wants' defense, but those are real games and dammit he has a w700ds

Please go back to your containment board

>being this dumb
>hurrr lgbt

Stop talking nigger

>thinkfags are so dumb they have to defend their shitty 1366x768 panels

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X1 carbon.

shit, i know that's an 'A'
as long as i'm not watching movies or anything with an experience that's improved with a higher resolution, who cares?

Pixel density is actually made better for reading. Why do you think smartphones cram ridiculous resolutions on their screens.

so they can make you buy a new phone every year?

Stop being a retard. Just because your thinkpad doesn't have good pixel density automatically it's a meme.

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Feeling happy today. Took my old T60 with a loud CPU fan, took it apart and dusted everything. Lubed the CPU fan bearings lightly with motor oil and applied fresh thermal paste. Fucking thing runs like new again. No noise. Seeing CPU temps as low as 44°C in normal use on non-demanding web sites. Unbelievable. They're indestructible. Posting with it as we speak.

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Good deal or not? Gotta make it snappy, cap!
ebay.es/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T440p-i5-4300m-4GB-500GB-Win-10-Pro-Mwst-41/232901268690?hash=item3639ff54d2:g:GtMAAOSwIFtaL~0W

I have a T420 right now running linuxmint. I want a windows thinkpad for "gayming" and by that I mean OpenRA. A good cpu and ram should be able to handle the renewed RTS. Instead of buying winblows I figured Id get another Thinkpad with it preinstalled. Any recommendations?

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are you trying to hackintosh?

Hey /tpg/ :)

How much should I pay for a refurbished thinkpad x220 in 2019? I dont necessarily have to get a perfect deal, but I dont want to overpay too much either.

*in Europe.

meh Im just going to go for the W530. Compared to the T420 the better screen and the K1000m should feel like an upgrade.

100 USD for base model. Adjust accordingly to any other goodies included.

ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X220-12-5-2-5-GHz-i5-4-GB-RAM-128-GB-SSD-Teildefekt-482/143237342895
>128gb ssd
>4gb ram
>battery dead
>small optic defects
>120€

Seems decent, no?

ever heard of T420S?
literally able to play everything but AAA titles at ~100 fps

That's worse than base model you nigger. Do I have to spell everything out?
>i5 2520
>4gb ram
>generic HDD/tiny ssd
>adapter
>working official battery
>nothing missing
>everything working

Is it a problem if I leave the Thinkpad (T440P) plugged in all the time?
Does it degrade the battery?
I just want to use it as desktop.

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Can't you remove the battery then?

>Can't you remove the battery then?
Yes I can.
Is this how you do it with a laptop and want to use it ask a desktop PC?
I really have no idea.

That's what I do with my gayming laptop

Yes, or if you wanna use the battery as a UPS, you can set it to charge till 50% only.

So if the battery is charged at 60% and I then I set it to charge at 50%, the laptop will not drain current from the battery and I can just leave the battery there?
How do I do this?
I am using Xubuntu which is Ubuntu with Xfce.

mu asus laptop is plugged 24h/24, when I disconnect it the battery doesn't even last 2 minutes, so I removed the battery and let it plug in

linrunner.de/en/tlp/docs/tlp-linux-advanced-power-management.html

Top notch mate.
Thank you.

Not your mate, bro.

As pointed out, I've extracted some comparable models for you to tell me if any of them represents a good deal. I'm not shopping for bargains, but I'd like to pay a fair price. Let me know if I should buy from any of these shops or just take my chances on ebay. Thanks in advance.


Shop 1 - Computer 1
[[notebooksbilliger.de/lenovo thinkpad t440p 418715/eqsqid/aba1ba04-bea0-4d7d-8604-522fb223cdc9]]

Price: 315 EUR
Processor: Intel Core i5-4300M 2 (Dual-Core) 2,6 GHz
GPU: Intel HD Graphics 4600
Memory: 8 GB
Hard drive: 256 GB SSD
Resolution: WXGA TFT (1366 x 768)

Optical drive: ? (Don't care)
Keyboard: German
Wi-Fi: Yes
Bluetooth: Yes
Webcam: Yes
Operating system: Windows 10 Pro


Shop 1 - Computer 2
[[notebooksbilliger.de/lenovo thinkpad t440p 624703/eqsqid/aba1ba04-bea0-4d7d-8604-522fb223cdc9]]
Price: 350 EUR
Processor: Intel Core i5-4330M 2x 2.80 GHz
GPU: Intel HD Graphics 4600
Memory: 8 GB
Hard drive: 256 GB SSD
Resolution: Full HD (1920 x 1080)

Optical drive: ? (Don't care)
Keyboard: German
Wi-Fi: Yes
Bluetooth: Yes
Webcam: Yes
Operating system: Windows 10 Pro


Shop 2 [[itsco.de/notebook-lenovo-thinkpad-t440p-intel-core-i5-4300m-vpro-2x-2-6ghz-20aw-23865.html]]
Price: 269 EUR
Processor: Intel Core i5-4300M 2 (Dual-Core) 2,6 GHz
GPU: Intel HD Graphics 4600
Memory: 8 GB
Hard drive: 128 GB SSD
Resolution: HD (1366 × 768)

Optical drive: Yes
Keyboard: German
Wi-Fi: Yes
Bluetooth: Yes
Webcam: Yes
Operating system: Windows 10 Pro


Shop 3 [[greenpanda.de/refurbished/de/shop/notebook/LENOVO-THINKPAD-T440P/?card=2965]]
Price: 299 EUR
Processor: Core i5-4300M up to 3.30 GHz
GPU: Intel HD Graphics 4600
Memory: 8GB
Hard drive: 256GB SSD
Resolution: HD + (1600 x 900)

Optical drive: none
Keyboard: German
Wi-Fi: Yes
Bluetooth: Yes
Webcam: Yes
Operating system: Windows 10 Pro

Retina is just shitty marketing buzzword by apple. It just means good enough res/ppi. Even apple's 750p Iphones are "retina"

You forgot to mention they're all T440p, I'm assuming they're all T440p based on specs, everyone of them seems overpriced especially 1-1. 2 is the most acceptable despite being overpriced too, but a good base if you wanna change to 1080p IPS panel yourself and you should. Google for the t440p upgrade guide and decide if you want any of the fluffs. I bought a similar to 2 for 250 freedom bucks and it already chad 1080p IPS panel which costs like another 50 freedom bucks. So I bought a similar specs as 2's for only 200 freedom bucks as opposed to your 269 gypsyroos.
You're better off looking on eBay and checking how much import tax you'll have to pay, good thing for buying locally is faster shipping.

I'd go for shop 1 computer 2 purely for that 1920*1080 screen resolution.

>Used machines are plentiful and cheap
worst meme ever

My brother insists on having me gift him an Acer Aspire instead of Dell Latitude. I keep on telling him that Acer is shit and that Latitude is better yet he keeps on dangling the price when I told him that price is not the issue, it's the QC. How do I convince him otherwise? Or do I buy the acer and slap it on his face?

Yeah. All T440p.
>2 is the most acceptable despite being overpriced too, but a good base
Thanks!
>You're better off looking on eBay and checking how much import tax you'll have to pay
I'm based in Europe. Do you mean I should look into the US ebay and buy from there?

I was thinking that I could upgrade it later on, then get that inferior screen to repair one with a broken display if I found one for cheap on ebay.

Go for the 350€ Shop 1 computer 2.
You could save around 35€ by buying the 269€ Shop 2 one and putting a FHD panel in it but if you also want to stick a 256GB SSD in it you'd save fuck all.
Best choice is to look for better deals though.

Thanks. I'll be checking ebay then.

Do you trust ebay for purchasing thinkpads? I haven't checked the site for like 8 years but the cheapest deals seem to be on there, especially refurbished shit

I am a newcomer, but I think that everyone uses paypal for added security.

Yes, alternatively you can look at Dell Latitude e6440 for Dell's version of the T440p.

He'd be better off getting a m.2 2240 ssd instead of using a regular 2.5".

Hello Thinkpadders, there's a cheap T490 I'd like to get, but it doesn't have a dedicated GPU. Can I retrofit a dedicated mobile GPU or am I fucked if it doesn't come with one?

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maybe cheap but plentiful? not really since lenovo doesn't produce **20 series anymore

Where should I buy a replacement touchpad for a T440p? Is aliexpress fine?

aliexpress.com/item/32999662913.html

Are you mentally ill or something.

hmm there's a $180 t440 and I'm trying to decide if I should get that and replace the screen on it or just get a t430 for the same price and live with it

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T430 is better than T440, but T440p is better than T430.

Thanks

the retards over here are selling the t440p for basicaly double the cost of a t440 or t430, so fuck that
unless I can snatch something on ebay I'm fucked
fuck the prices are so good on ebay though, even after counting shipping+handling
I'm scared of ebay but feel like I should start taking on deals like this

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X1 Carbon/Yoga can be ordered with 2560x1440 display at 14".
X1 Extmeme (15.6") and latest gens of the Carbon/Yoga have a 4K (3840x2160) option.
X1 Tablet has 3000x2000 13" display.

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>every laptop listing I see is overpriced
fuck europe

>Philippines
>~600usd
>Just for browsing/watching movies/anime
I don't know what to buy, everything is fucking newer models that advertises "for gaming" but I just want a decent one which can do what I outlined above and can last me a long time. Any suggestions?

What's the next tier after T440p?

I should only buy "Manufacturer refurbished" right? "Seller refurbished" means that some random Jow Forumsentooman did it.

Should I pull the trigger on this baby? 245 Eurodollars
ebay.es/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T440p-Laptop-i5-8GB-RAM-DVD/183860796122?hash=item2acef51ada:g:t6sAAOSw5ZRdEiyv

German user, you should be buying this, see how cheap it is compared to your bum fuck prices?

Don't both buying those, they're like used panties, you'll do a better job cleaning it yourself. Used panties referencing catfished photos but it was some fat Asian fuck who created the sweat stains.
None. All Intel CPUs after haswell were soldered.

"refurbished" doesn't mean anything at all
it is a used, secondhand laptop, that's it

Yeah, but I mean that I should only buy "Manufacturer refurbished" ones and not "Seller refurbished". Am I right on this issue?

except they don't really do that anymore, a lot are going back to 720p/1080p-ish

You can get a fully specced out T440p for that price and it'll last you forever until quads and 16gb ram becomes obselete, so maybe a decade or more. Don't you have Craigslist or shit equivalent over there?