If you use Firefox, paste 'about:config' into your address bar, and then make sure to set image.webp.enabled to false.
This will ensure that any website that serves webp files will instead correctly serve you jpeg or png image files instead. Thank you for your time, and enjoy a free and integrious web browsing experience.
Why would I do that? I don't visit sites that serve WebP and FF is the only software on my PC that can handle animated WebP (the gdk-pixbuf patch unfortunately only covers static images).
Not necessarily. If a website uses JPEGs/PNGs that can be progressively decoded, then you don't need to load the entire image before it can be displayed, making the size difference compared to WebP moot. It saves the website bandwidth costs though.
Forced chroma subsampling for lossy WebP, lossless WebP is a completely different compression algorithm, low quality lossy WebP smooths over details too much and no progressive decoding support, just to name a few problems.
Friendly reminder that this was done with an ancient libwebp version and that FLIF despite its advantages is dead.
>and making google $0 that's where you're wrong bucko, they make money from market presence alone. in fact, google is so determined to replace jpeg with webp that they're PAYING websites to use their format. Of course, you're probably too simpleminded to care, but there are others who do.
Andrew Edwards
I use BMP for all images on my server because everyone have at least 100 mbps internet at home now
Angel Hernandez
>I don't visit sites that serve WebP You absolutely do, you just don't notice it. Go ahead and search your hard drive, you're bound to have accidently saved a webp image or two.
>everyone have at least 100 mbps internet at home now Wrong, _all_ the household in my shitty vilage have at least double that, and I'm on 1gbps. >the BMP argument
Ayden Gutierrez
Sorry I use only solid state drive
Evan Cook
It's a real world scenario that JPG has had for the last 13 years
Brandon Hernandez
SSDs are hard, try taking a bite out of it
Ian Taylor
>>everyone have at least 100 mbps internet at home now >Wrong, _all_ the household in my shitty vilage have at least double that Do you understand English?
Lincoln Perez
a lot of websites compress images that are uploaded and when people repeatedly save and upload and share images over and over again hundreds of times there's gonna be some quality loss. with webp, you won't even recognize the original image after a while
Henry Sanchez
>everyone has at least 56kbps Do you?
Camden Barnes
Okay, I see that you don't.
Caleb Morris
He took the bait
Nathaniel Powell
>buckled under his own premise As I said, pathetic. No wonder you're @ Google.
Noah Diaz
God, FLIF is so based. I just wish it was implemented in Firefox.
James Sanchez
based, thanks for the tip fellow 4channeler
Easton Flores
>You absolutely do, you just don't notice it. Fair enough, but I don't download images from those sites. >Go ahead and search your hard drive, you're bound to have accidently saved a webp image or two. I do know my files pretty well as I'm an autist and use lossless image optimizers on the pictures I save. I never download WebP. I do have several thousand WebPs on my PC though, as I converted my entire manga/doujin collection to lossless WebP.
William Adams
FLIF is lossless, might as well use PNG.
Sebastian Long
Ooooooooh yeeees sir, why not.
Eli Adams
It got a lot better in the meantime. There's still a problem with color bleeding though.
That doesn't stop it from being far more efficient, both in its normal and lossy optimized state. The bigger problem is that JPEG XL already killed FLIF.
It's for your own good you troglodyte. Webp now exceeds the 50% compression efficiency target over standard JPG and up to ~20-40% over standard PNG. Not only that but the near lossless mode (ie no chroma sub sampling) also matches if not outperform lossy non-dithering PNG crushers out there.
>FLIF Jesus fuck, how can a lossless format output smaller sizes than lossy formats? What is this sorcery and why isn't this format being implemented everywhere right now?
Ian Gutierrez
The same thing happens with Webp, this isn't new. You just exhaustively perform as much visually non-invasive pre-processing as possible but save to ARGB instead of a keyframe. FLIFs implementation of this was barely better than Webp's pre-processing algos and took like 10X longer.
Of course these aren't the same to a robot but the important question is can you tell them apart at 100% zoom? Now repeat this a couple thousand time for whatever autistic reason and you'll get minimal "wear" of the image. Of course no sane person would actually use this as lossy encodings would be 5-10X smaller in file sizw, retain 80-90% visual quality, and be significantly faster to encode/decode.
Like you said yourself, this isn't something unique. FLIF does the same thing, and there's no way I'm using a google format.
Connor Carter
Doesn't matter, see That's the REAL reason websites want to ditch JPG and replace it with Webp despite it not having progressive decoding yet AFAIK.
Jacob Long
Nah, they only use webp because of obsessive marketing by dumb shills like . If they actually cared about speed and size there are better options to choose from. But sadly web devs aren't getting bribed by google to implement support for FLIF and similar formats.
Checked but wrong. Sure there are better formats like FLIF/FLUIF/FLUF? but given how long it takes to encode an image just for 5-10% better compression and virtually 0 browser support makes them unfavorable. The only thing even close to Webp would be jpeg xl but all the good algos would mean it would incur a royalty fee just to use it, meanwhile webp does not.
Aiden Adams
>you can't disable updates anymore. welcome to the software dystopia Wanna fucking bet? chattr +i ...
Cameron Edwards
Doesn't FLIF still have patent issues?
Ryan Powell
Who fucking cares about all this, when is AVIF going live?
4channel is slow to adopt new stuff presuably to maintain compatability. I dont think you can even use h.265/HEVC in webms yet despite saving shittons of space.
Hudson Rivera
All the major browsers support webp dumb itoddler
Liam King
upload a webp RIGHT NOW
Oliver Cox
Jow Forums not supporting it is another issue altogether dumb itoddler
Dominic Cruz
>bu-but wepb is da bess >proceeds not to post one get fucked
>I dont think you can even use h.265/HEVC in webms yet retard
Levi Morgan
webm is a container, not a video codec It can contain H.264/H.265 streams just like it can contain VP8/VP9 streams
Landon Howard
read the spec mkv can, webm can't
Jaxson Morris
Maybe it was vp9 i was thinking of. there is some encoding that my video editor defaults to that Jow Forums doesn't support. I always have to manually specify vp8.
Charles Howard
Jow Forums supports vp8, but not vp9 or av1
Jace Parker
>last 13 years Why? What happened 13 years ago that wasn't applicable to jpegs 14 years ago, or 15, or since 1992 when the format was first made available?
Daniel Perez
jpeg and png need to die, there are tons of better formats.
Christopher Moore
So pretty much everybody, who ever edited a JPEG beyond basic cropping and rotation (and even then most people don't know about lossless JPEG editing and compress it unnecessarily). Also no website cares about quality, if they can save bandwidth instead. People complain about JPEGs being converted to lossy WebP, but sites were doing the same shit before, just with JPEG to JPEG.
Juan Gomez
FLIF may be inherently lossless, but the pictures in these comparisons were optimized by discarding data on the encoder site (aka lossy FLIF). The inconsistent file size is a byproduct of the constant recompression. Lossy FLIF (given a fixed quality range) converges towards a fixed size limit rather quickly, while inherently lossy formats become unpredictable after a while. >why isn't this format being implemented everywhere right now? Because it's slow to en- and decode, updates constantly broke backwards compatibility, it doesn't get updates anymore, transcoding is broken and the best encoding settings are unpredictable (i.e. the fastest effort setting might give you the worst or the best results or something in-between).
Jason Phillips
Pretty sure only Safari and IE11 are the only browsers that support HEVC playback.
Caleb Taylor
>If they actually cared about speed and size there are better options to choose from. And which one are those?
Benjamin Allen
>but all the good algos would mean it would incur a royalty fee just to use it Supposedly it's royalty-free.
Jose Gomez
You really think this site cares about efficient formats, when it only supports VP8 WebMs?
>I dont think you can even use h.265/HEVC in webms yet despite saving shittons of space. VP9. You're thinking of VP9.
Christian Phillips
chromium is worse firefox is better
Nathaniel Hughes
Perhaps the rise of social media?
Isaiah Nguyen
>Firefox >free
Remember that time they kicked gab out of the addons repository?
Fuck this SJW PoS
Luis Edwards
>This will ensure that any website that serves webp files will instead correctly serve you jpeg or png image files instead. This is wrong. Setting image.webp.enabled will just disable the webp decoder. Websites still serve you webp images but now Firefox can't decode them. You have to remove image/webp from the image.http.accept string.
Liam Morales
Is that Kiary Pamyu Pamyu?
Evan Young
>You have to remove image/webp from the image.http.accept string. You're absolutely right, thanks.
Jose Ortiz
There's a script for that IIRC. It used the webm video container to display 1 keyframe (what webo really is).
Zachary Jackson
I'm actually impressed given how much VP8 lags behind H264 in terms of compression efficiency.