Why don't ((((the powers that be))) want you taking shrooms...

whereabouts is that? sounds like a good spot to visit lol.

Ok, doing that does sound fucking stupid. You only think it marked you as a failure. Wrong. It's your own fault that you are where you are now. It's up to you if you want to fix it or no. Certainly possible to change your life around.

weaklings most likely OR they realized one ascension secret

They really don't care though. You can buy them easily online, pick them in woods and buy spores in shops.

They aren't anything too special and won't give you a single significant thought that can't be found much better in philosophy books.

they do have the capacity to give you a more spiritual and enlightening experience than any book ever made

No they don't. I've done them 4 times, twice at 7g and they're chemical profundity for low IQ morons. You think you're having deep thoughts because your thalamus is downregulated and information is incorrectly passed to dopaminergic centres of the brain.

Go spend a couple of years reading existentialism, ethics, phenomenology and legitimately you'll see they're fun drugs which can make a few of the things you know about qualia and subjectivity a bit more apparent but still it pales to actual learning.

You do realize that's just the bottom of his robes right?

This

How fucking retarded do you have to be not to see that? Examine the image for 5 seconds and its obvious.

Psychedelic faggots just believe what they want to believe.

>You only think it marked you as a failure.
No it really was the turning point for me, its my fault I went in ignorant of the potential dangers but the damage that was done took years to fix.
All through my teens I had girlfriends and was popular, I was an athlete, I was top of most of my school classes and at the point I took the second dose (october, they grow at the end of the year before the ground freezes for the first time) I was already 1 year into a mechanical engineering degree where I was clearly finding it very easy despite the university social life
A few days after the trip, I walked out of university and never went back, never played any more sports, never had interest in women, didnt speak to family for 2 years etc. I ended up getting a minimum wage job at a supermarket and living in a bedsit slum for years that I shouldve been gaining academic success and fucking women. It broke me mentally and it wasnt until about 2015 that I started to feel like my old self again.

I shouldve taken at least a quarter of the dose and waited until I was in my mid 20s, our brains an d personas are still in development at 19 and stunting/diverting growth at that point can never be recovered.
The other poster saying people killed themselves I can totally believe, I probably shouldve killed myself before now too, it wouldnt even be irrational.

No-one should try it until well into adulthood and with the scientific and philosophical maturity to properly understand it. Otherwise you get people like OP who fall into the "psychonaut" world view and project false significance to drugged out schizophrenia, abandoning all real life in the process.

I wouldn't be surprised if OP is solipsistic now and doubts any of us are real.

>why don't ((((the powers that be))) want you taking shrooms?
because it is the true body of christ

How come native americans then who made taking shrooms and DMT a business were animists who lived like cavemen?

you sound like the typical bachelors degree faggot who thinks they've got it figured out as they learned some scientific terms. I would like to ask, what do you think about life after death? Is there place for such a thing in your scientific mind?

Living in tandem with nature is a higher consciousness way of living.

You have a weak mind if you can't do it without Mushrooms.

Define real lol. As in your souls matter or have the cohesion to remain if I dismember your meat packaging. I'm not sure about that.

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From my experience psychedelics turn people into spiritual hippie communists.
Every single psychenaut follows exactly the same path: tell everybody that you seen the Truth and attained enlightenment, pick some exotic asian religion to follow half-assedly, mix it with several other exotic religions, throwing away parts you don't like, and finally become vegan, socialist and environmentalist.

we are not our physical bodies, that is for sure

I've found that those who have psychedelic experiences turn out to be more right wing. I guess I don't socialize with people like you have mentioned.

Jokes on you I have both a bachelors in philosophy and a medical degree. What comes after death? We don't know, we don't even know what subjectivity is.

I don't believe in religion so I'm inclined to think we just pass to non-existence as before, but we do know first hand that a purely materialistic conception of the universe is false and consciousness is very unlike anything else. So whilst we can't make any assertions that also goes for saying there's nothing afterwards.

In this area we're just smart apes scratching at things our brains were never intended to work out.

Rephrase that when you come back down.

Psychedelic faggots think induced schizophrenia is spiritual enlightenment. Have yo ever been with someone who is tripping while you were sober? They are completely retarded for 10 hours. They literally have nothing that even resembles spiritual knowledge.
>“Dude, what if our universe was just an atom in an even bigger universe? Whoah man think about it. My belly button is talking to me.”

This. For a significant part of one trip I wasn't sure if i was a grape or not.

what are your opinions on those who have experienced out of body experiences after ''death''? The Tibetan Book of the Dead explains this quite nicely. Death is not the end, its only a transformation.

lol you guys sound like complete noobs in spiritual matters, no wonder shrooms didn't do any good for you.

I think people dying are unreliable witnesses, as is your average person in general. We know the brain releases DMT sometimes at death as it does when dreaming which would adequately describe it.

I also think to patients who say they were definitely awake for surgery and they want compensation for the horror yet we monitor all their BP, heart rate, temp and more clearly indicating they are 100% asleep and comfortable. People make things up for potential gain and attention all the time, or compound upon misremembered memories until they gain a life of their own.

amanita muscaria is what is being depicted. not psilocybin. amanita muscaris is the soma.

well shit, your (((scientific))) education is showing. While some most likely have faked some experiences related to this, many have not. While the experiences they experience are subjective, it is clear proof that there is more to life after ''death''. There are many example of kids for example, who remember their past lives, and thorough research has been done to validate their claims. When the EEG flatlines, materialists like you would think that as a result of cessation of brain and heart activity, one experiences death. Modern science doesn't know shit, only conceptual knowledge.

I was able to do it through sheer willpower, no substances needed.

amanita muscaria is 100% legal.

I wasn’t the one tripping you degenerate retard. Learn to fucking read. Your friends hate to be around you when you trip because you sound like a sperg to them. Unless they are tripping too which ceate a retarded schizophrenic echo chamber.

I know you can grow brain matter if you microdose shrooms.

Maybe that's how it goes with your low iq amerimutt friends. Seems like you should trip in order to stop speaking bravo sierra.

psychedelics could be used in a clinical setting to treat any sort of mental or spiritual disease. Shaman and medicine men have been haphazardly treating people in this way through all of human history. All it would take is the use of modern empirical methods to create highly effective treatment. That is what timothy Leary and the Drug culture was all about. It was a psyop to discredit the reputable doctors and scientists and to prevent further research.

that being said, retarded 16 year olds taking uncontrolled doses of whatever they get their hands on are 9 times out of 10 just going to fuck their own shit up. it must be done under controlled clinical settings

Changed to a laptop so different id.

Reported subjective experience is not proof of anything, not even proof of experience as people lie and misremember. However a genuine experience is still not proof of life after death.

As for the kids remembering past lives it's just nonsense, there's material and social benefit to claiming such things and it's easy enough to either read up on some historical figure or be vague enough your experiences could be anyone like cold reading.

As for EEG flatlines indicating death - yes and no. Most brain activity is physical as opposed to conscious, an EEG can markedly reduce with muscular sedation, paralysis or anything that reduces bodily signals to the brain. So somebody might say someone is dead from grossly reduced EEG but they aren't. However a truly flat EEG does mean zero brain activity and does mean death.

If you want to somehow propose the mind lives on past this you are free to but it's an unlikely position. We know the mind is fully emergent and dependent on the physical brain - damage to parts of the tissue cause subjective changes and disability, so evidence suggests death of the brain also causes death of the mind.

on my death bed I will receive total consciousness, so i git that going for me, which is nice

>I know you can grow brain matter if you microdose shrooms.
its fucking fantastic. microdose amanita muscaria. 100% legal

ids change when ip changes

you're too quick to disregard somewhat unbelievable things for a normie/npc, but it makes sense, as the programming can be strong. There are many cases of people having a truly flat EEG, but were revived. Modern science has no grounds for their beliefs on death, only concepts that have been reinforced on our minds through mass repetition and dogmatic insistence. Anything that makes ''scientists'' question their own beliefs is wrong to them.

People mistake the excitement of the thoughts being had while tripping, with the actual relevance/significance of the thoughts

You can develop new connections not grow new matter. New connections isnt necessarily a good thing either.

All religions are based on psychedelic trips

What a shit thread

Stoned Ape Hypothesis

Harmless drugs like mushrooms and cannabis are illegal because they let you see the "metanarrative" that has been constructed for you. Systems that are normally implicit and invisible become obvious and uncomfortable. Your lateral thinking is greatly enhanced.

The "whoa man" cliche exists for a reason.

where have you read that the mind is fully emergent and dependent on the physical brain? By speaking half truths, it's no better than lying. The consciouss mind/ the ego is dependent on the physical brain.

Whats experienced when you're high off shrroms seems profound because you've lost perspective. The most trivial and mundane things can seem new and fascinating. If you have something on your mind you'll find the simplest answers to them because you don't really doubt whether your answer is right or not. It's a wacky experience that takes you out of your own head for awhile and should do done in nature not in your bedroom.

Nah I'm talking about neurogenesis, look it up.

These aren't some crazy intellectual ideas too hot for the normie brain you are talking about, in fact they are normal normie beliefs. Vague spiritualism and taking experiences at face value.

As for people being revived from a flat EEG that's fine, i haven't heard of it but i have no problem with it in theory - you are still dead just bought back. Life isn't an on/off switch. For example when someone drowns they can sometimes be bought back an hour after being found, long after you'd assume death. However they are in most ways, most of their brain will be long gone and they'll be on life support as a twitching corpse for the rest of their "life". When you lose a limb you experience less than you did at your maximal state - are you as alive as you were before? The scope of your subjective has certainly decreases a bit.

For a person who dies of a drug overdose they die the second they pass out, regardless of how long their body holds on for - they have no more experience from the instant they go to sleep.

Scientists don't think death is a single moment, it's just loss of life. Perhaps your lack of curiosity and engagement with scientific/philosophical thought is why you think it's so basic.

Consciousness and the "ego" are products of the mind and thus dependent on the brain. Thoughts not shared only exist in the brain, stop trying to sound clever.

I did and can only find evidence for it creating new connections. Some places state hippocampal neurogenesis but that's not what people mean as that part of the brain grows and shrinks day to day basically reactive to mood.

whats the first law of thermodynamics?

Where did i read that? Countless places but more importantly it's manifestly clear. I'd be more interested in exactly why you think the mind is not emergent from the brain.

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Not applicable to the mind that's what.

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oh but it is my ''smart'' friend

I’ve done every psychedelic drug. 5meodmt is the truth. I fully believe I’ve seeb what happens when we die. If you ever get the chance, take 3 hits and enjoy the show

funguses

interesting pics, i have thought about the aminata muscaria, apparently shamans of old used them in ceremonies. now we are being told not to eat, NO ITS POISON, I think there's more to it than what we are being told

Niggers were can I get my hands on some of those psilocybin mushrooms in Brisbane I've looked for them.

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Why do drugfags always have to modify the drugs they’re doing with a 2nd one? It’s like you can’t just appreciate one thing, you have to double down.

Truffles made me feel extremely tense for about 3 hours and then I was having legitimate 3D hallucinations in a painting. An aztec village, a black man’s face, all super-imposed on one another, on a canvas that was just a wash of red. Amazing.

You realise that that’s because your brain thought it was dying right?

Except then you have a catastrophic problem of oversufficient determinism. All physical events have a sufficient and total preceeding physical events and that holds true in our brains. By adjoining mental events to physical phenomena you are destroying laws of energy because you have over causation.

That and you have zero basis to positing qualia as physical: what objective measures are you using to quanitfy it, how can we observe its action, what are it's units?

Once you make it physical you then undermine any position of spiritualism and death becomes much more totally a cessation of mind.

Seriously you need to hold off on drugs as you are forming incoherent positions.

nice digits, if you're alright looking, you could try downloading tinder and matching with some hippy girl and just getting shrooms like that. if that's too degen, deep web. or ask around in some hippy bars. I dont like the psychedelic culture at all, but its bearable as you're only after the goodies

This is a 10/10 thread subject. Your only problem is that you're too much of a zilch to say "the Jews". Just fucking say it.

All eastern religions and Tibet are satanic

I tried but couldn't trip, no reason I shouldn't have been able to (yes, really, I've done my research).

Think it may have something to do with Ritalin destroying my ability to dream when they put me on it.

>RIP

cook them right before consuming

It's for our own good. Shrooms should be done very sparingly. In todays world people would trip everyday which would cause lasting brain damage.

SHROOMS ARE NOT THE WAY TO HIGHER LEVELS OF CONSCIOUSNESS. Although it does allow you to think and feel the world at levels you normally cant. You are providing to much voltage to a circuit. Not to mention if you arent prepared you leave yourself open to demonic attacks (bad trips)

If finding the higher levels of consciousness are your goal, do it the right way. Through meditation, spiritualism, and religion. Using shrooms is no different than cheating.

Once we boiled up some shrooms and there must have been a bad one in there or something and as soon as I drunk it I knew it was poison. My vision went black and white, well, black and yellow. And I could feel my organs almost shutting down. Sat there for 3 hours in my armchair which felt like was on a boat on the sea rocking on the waves curled up in a ball dying. Eventually started to get better after a few hours.

thanks for making me laugh lol. this is the power of american christcuck brainwashing i see

So you just had a trip.

He likes the thread subject because it’s gentiles talking about altering their minds thinking it will bring them enlightenment while simultaneously getting the satisfaction that he is keeping the knowledge from you. The only true sacrament is gentile blood ritual

I'm only interested in them for their abilities to help me think abstractly to solve issues and think about fringe science.

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There is a theory that mushrooms are what made us human. I wonder what would happen if we continued to consume them. I wonder what would happen if we made an experiment on another specie.
>have many dog farms around the world
>Give dogs maximum dosage they can have of mushrooms without it hurting their health even if it's 0.0001 miligrams
>try to increase the dosage for the next generation of dogs in the dog farm
>same for every generation
it might take hundreds of years if not more to even start seeing a glimpse of results but it will be worth it absolutely.

That sounds fucked you synthesized how many? That makes it way more powerful also basically shroom trip comes from your body being poisoned and it reacting to it is the “trip” extremely common to have stomach discomfort/vomiting literally just don’t do them

that's good, if you want to have a very interesting experience, try micro dosing psilocybin and then spending an hour or two in a floating tank.

No. I’ve had trips before. This was definitely not one. Normally when you drink the shroom tea it tastes like shit but it’s ok. This kind of tasted ok to start with but with a definite “poison” aftertaste very hard to describe but something in my animal brain knew. and as soon as it hit my stomach I got an automatic “no” response. My vision started to go dark yellow about 2 minutes later. Way quicker than Shrooms usually kick in.

because when you do mushrooms you realize that all these "prophets" in the old religions were lying about their "visions coming straight from God" - they were just eating and smoking substances.

It's a nonsense theory created by psychedelic obsessives who think 46+2 and Jung are in any way substantial. We know what effect mushrooms have on the brain, part of why they are good is that the answer is basically none at all. However if you want a longer term sociological experiment look at the south americans who took psychedelics for milennia. When we arrives in metal plated galleons with guns they were sacrificing babies and living in tents.

Dogs=goys

I have given this serious thought before I've been looking up prices of floating tanks on Alibaba but I'm always worried that I will end up drowning like the biohacker.

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Nope. Consciousness is in everything.

dude did you meet the machine elves?

Not all trips are the same and you don't poison your organs and feel rough for a few hours then come back. That's a mushroom trip. The sense of impending bodily damage and panic is classic bad trip.

>g syrian rue along
where can i buy this?

This is quite the interesting read - Mushrooms neither plant nor animal

bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_industryhealthiermedica34.htm

Aye

go to a place that has them before getting one yourself. can't really drown in them lol

I felt like the "expand your mind" part of drugs was bullshit, but what wasn't bullshit was to witness how the human mind functions when it is severely impaired, and operating far away from its normal conditions. I got a heavy sense of how the mind takes sensory input and creates a reality around that input, how in that sense you never truly see ground truth reality, only a fuzzy reconstruction.

Well, these are British Shrooms, they are very small. Probably about 100- 200 is enough for a trip.

The thing is you have to know what you’re doing and ONLY eat the shrooms the YOU picked. It’s so easy to pick very similar looking shrooms because they grow right next to each other in clumps. And also dry them immediately or else they will go mouldy in the bag and you could poison yourself like I did.

this is why i will never take dmt. those things are fucking real, i know it