NoFap or NoPorn

If you get caught in a dopamine loop then everything sucks still. Plus you get BIG balls

NoPorn, then only fap if you get aroused by something and cannot have sex. Do not force yourself to get aroused just so you can fap because you are bored or have nothing better to do.

Nofap is actually unhealthy. Noporn is probably one of the best decisions you can make.

If you have a partner to fuck, nofap.
If not, noporn.
Its that simple.
NO FUCKING PORN

NoPorn is the real deal. NoFap is bullshit.

Why is fapping supposedly bad for you but sex is not?

fapping causes hairloss, loss of ambition, loss of creativity, loss of social skills, and more.
Do. not. fap.

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Porn is bad for you.
Fapping way too much is bad for you.
Having sex way too much is bad for you too, but good luck with that.

Idk user. I went nofap for a couple of days, then gained some motivation never seen before. Then, I regressed and now I'm back on this board. It really does work.

You're missing the point. NoFap is about preserving something natural, not suppressing it. Men shouldn't be masturbating without the aide of a woman. Your needs for sex aren't truly fulfilled when you masturbate. There's a reason that you're addicted to masturbating, it's because it never truly fills in the gap that can only be filled by real women.

Do not limit your fapping, simply never watch porn again, its that simple.

>Maybe its the act of over coming something difficult thats beneficial rather than overcoming something thats actually harmful. Regardless, it stil has some positive effects
The endocrine system is complex. Most animals do it at the subconscious level. The ability to manifest unneeded stress and non-helpful physical body states is almost unique to the human body, outside extreme shock related deaths, which are actually more common in animals. We live a long time, and our biology is fine with killing us young, when the disease would unharmfully pass if 20 years older. Our immune system is hyperactive compared to say, chimps.

>Our immune system is hyperactive
Auto-immune diseases exist in other animals, but not quite to the extant of those in humans, or even close for example.

>Do not limit your fapping, simply never watch porn again, its that simple.
Why are you people trying to stop people from watching porn? Your arguments are weak and borderline mysticism

Please give me some sort of citation for any of what you jusy said. I honestly want it cleared up

Fapping without porn has the same exact consequences as fapping with porn, given that you're not utilizing a human female.

Also how is fapping any different from porn when it comes down to "rewiring" the brains reward system. Both are sexual stimulation without a partner

Porn is a way to release sexual build without having to deal with the bullshit that comes with fucking women. And like every single thing that is pleasurable on this planet, watching it excessively will cause harm. Just cause you're a weak willed cunt who cant self control for shit doesnt mean porn is bad, stop shilling for (((NoFap))) there couldnt be a more obvious kike scam even if it had Jew written all over it

Depends on your diet. They have a point, but might take it to far sometimes. Some relatively rare elements are involed. Much like an iodine deficiency might lower a person's IQ by 15 points if severe. Not sure on the testosterone studies, I'm sure there's some out there.
academic.oup.com/humrep/article-abstract/2/6/475/639178

it's all bullshit to me

If this isnt common sense to you, then you are retarded.
Enjoy watching other men fuck women you never will, I have no agenda here.

Jews own the porn industry, why would they work against it?
Do you fucking think before you post this shit?

Its limited by your biological impulses, while porn overstimulates those same impulses.

I gave up porn about 3 weeks ago. Since then I've really had no motivation to jerk off and haven't nutted for nearly a month now. I still get horny and shit, but with no porn my motivation to fap just isn't there. I also started lifting weights for the first time in like 5 years a week ago. Not sure if they're related.

I just got tired of being manipulated by the Juden.

So basically, moderation is key. Interesting how that works.

/thread

What's the difference between drinking droplets of water or none at all, versus just drinking a full bottle?

If I'm starving and I decide to eat the grass while imagining that I'm eating a fine cuisine, I may get full. But am I truly satisfied? I've never smelled nor tasted that fine cuisine before, and I'm sure that I'll be hungry again in no time at all.

Oh how hard, how savagely I would fuck Venti. I would mush her face in the pillow while I demolish her pussy.

It has to do with the bonding hormones that are secreted during an orgasm. If there is nobody nearby to bond with, it fucks you up

I don’t get these guys banging pornstars, they finish by jacking off. You have a hit thot there to do it and you jack off.

She leaves cat poop on her bed overnight, and forced her Jow Forums boyfriend to drop out of college and wanted him not to work. She was in charge, and he left her after awhile. Wanted a manboy.

>fapping to anything other than your waifu

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Wut thee fok you on about?

This is a meme right?
No one actually faps to cartoons do they?

>fap 3 times a day
>hair is past shoulder
>ready to create my own trade company
>play guitar everyday
>just came back from a part

Maybe it\s you user, and not necessarily the fapping.

i was a big time coke addict and jerking off to porn is worse than binging on coke. harder to quit too.

Please god, why couldnt that have been me. I would have been her manboy for life.

I don't know how anyone can fap to still images in the current year. I gave that shit up in like 2004.

user, you're on Jow Forums.

What do you think

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When she broke up with her boyfriend, who came from a Jow Forumsmeetup. That's what he said. She boxed him in and made him completely dependent on her. Dropped out of college for her. Plus cat poop. I don't have the link, but I believe it. She lives in a city. Sad. I'm telling ya, its on voat or somewhere else, if someone remembers.

>You need to learn to channel that energy, that is the point.

got any tips? I can't get into fights or drive my car really fast without breaking the law, and I'm certainly not going to be interested in reading a book or doing anything stationary

Also, she was gracious with her breasts. He could suck them and play with them whenever. Not all negative.

I was very addicted to porn, just as much as a daily heroin consumer is addicted to heroin. It's hard to believe and it takes a long time to internalize, but i accepted it and slowed my porn consumption;

It's absolutely insane how different my life is. Nofap works, but its like a bell curve: it takes a shit ton of effort to get 100% results (increased dopamine sensitivity) but by putting 20% of the work you can get 80% of the benefits. Try it, complete monk mode for 30 days. You'll see.

youtube.com/watch?v=KmNAwK_GwBs&t=11s

Only great men do NoFap. I wish I never started beating off. Straight up mind aids,

her bf was a crazy narcissist and had a mental breakdown or something. saw a video of it. looked really dysfunctional

Jerking off causes prolactin release. Prolactin is a strong dopamine receptor antagonist. Prolactin is the compound responsible for the refractory period in males after climax. Too much prolactin can lead to depression, apathy/loss of motivation, and other assorted symptoms of dopamine receptor antagonism/downregulation.

So no it's not just no-porn. It's no-fap and no-sex.

PS: dopamine causes sexual arousal, motivation, feelings of reward, and at higher levels/overagonism, causes mania, psychosis, and sexual deviancy.

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“For me the real evil of masturbation would be that it takes an appetite which, in lawful use, leads the individual out of himself to complete (and correct) his own personality in that of another (and finally in children and even grandchildren) and turns it back; sends the man back into the prison of himself, there to keep a harem of imaginary brides. And this harem, once admitted, works against his ever getting out and really uniting with a real woman. For the harem is always accessible, always subservient, calls for no sacrifices or adjustments, and can be endowed with erotic and psychological attractions which no woman can rival. Among those shadowy brides he is always adored, always the perfect lover; no demand is made on his unselfishness, no mortification ever imposed on his vanity. In the end, they become merely the medium through which he increasingly adores himself. . . . After all, almost the main work of life is to come out of our selves, out of the little dark prison we are all born in. Masturbation is to be avoided as all things are to be avoided which retard this process. The danger is that of coming to love the prison.” - C.S. Lewis

>Try it, complete monk mode for 30 days. You'll see.
Indeed. I put a time limit on if I ever watch porn. 10 minutes in and not done? I'll close everything and fantasize. You can't watch a 45 minute porn video and be redpilled imho if you aren't done in the first 10 minutes at max. Otherwise, you're dealing with emotional problems; strictly.

>her bf was a crazy narcissist and had a mental breakdown or something. saw a video of it. looked really dysfunctional
Fair, but what I saw didn't do her any favors.

>mania, psychosis, and sexual deviancy.
This is why sometimes i need to just fap.

>only great men
>first man is Nietzsche

No porn is legitimately great for your mind and body, No fap is not exactly what it literally means. Keep masturbation under control, fap twice or thrice a month to stop wet dreams and eject old sperm which also helps stop prostrate cancer. Once YOU learn to control the urge it takes time to put that uneasiness to other usages which helps you be better such as lifting and not a degenerate. Porn and extensive masturbation is bound to pull you into degenerative sources and behavior, prove me wrong unless you don't mind being a degenerate.

if you jack off hard enough it can make it so that you can't cum from sex, after my first time I went and took a shower to blast rope cause my balls felt like they were going to detonate

Syphilis is an acceptable cure for degeneracy. Much like aids.

Well, yes. Sexual activity is actually a useful way to cut down on manic feelings.
Some interesting facts: Sex during/after war, after concerts, etc is often done due to heightened dopamine, the sexual activity takes the edge off. This is also why war-rape is so prevalent.
The rise in social media and smartphones is causing sexual deviancy to skyrocket as well, due to people getting overstimulated by retweets/(you)s online. This is why many modern people cannot stay away from their phones for more than a half-hour. They're addicted to their phones and social media like cocaine addicts are addicted to coke. And this overabundance of dopamine in the body is causing increased sexual arousal, deviancy, and also causing mania and psychosis, as well as paranoia(from linked norepinephrine production) and irritability and depression(from dopamine receptor downregulation caused by the aforementioned overstimulation).

City living also causes these problems which is why city dwellers are more sexually deviant and more mentally ill on the average.

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No porn is easy quit cold turkey nofap is hard as fuck

POO IN THE LOO
FAP IN THE TRAP

this is why incels killing people is justified

correct. NoFap = guaranteed to develop into sexual emergency syndrome.

Why is my id literally fap?

>Checks flag
Furries,Trannies in schools teaching sex change to toddlers, Trans people naked shooting pictures with children for fashion shows, higher amount of faggots than my country, other degenerative behavior are openly done without trouble, also pic related is considered normal. Yes, poo in the loo is what I am.

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Nah. They could just jerk off. The company of females isn't great, so they're not missing anything by being incels.

Still, great lols. Always neato to see normies get killed for their posh lives. Karma is a wonderful thing.

Cause it's aid the fap. It's a trap

All of this is happening more because society as a whole is becoming more and more perverted due to my aforementioned explanation.
Phones and social media are destroying the modern world.

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>AEDxeFAp
>AIDxeFAp
>AIDsFap

Sorry fren... you're a homo.

Be honest, you dont really poo in the loo.

NoPorn 100%.
Fap is a good thing, but don't do it every time your penor itches.
I have a rule: if you can't cum just from your imagination, your body doesn't need it.

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>you're not utilizing a human female
This reeks of neckbeard lmao. A woman isn't a tool.

This guy gets it.

Lmfao
>being this wrong

her without makeup. can you unsee this? HAAHAHAHAHA NO U CANT

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Fapping in general leads to depression, lack of focus, day dreaming and constant arousal rotting your brain. It's a drug you're feeding your brain and you should stop. You do need to monthly or ever few months 'empty' out your balls or else get prostrate cancer or still get it.

"Frequent masturbation during men's 20s and 30s increased their risk of prostate cancer," Dimitropoulou tells WebMD. "But men in their 50s who masturbated frequently had decreased risk."

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if i fap in the morning, my productivity for the day is fucked. sometimes you just gotta nut tho. try to fap in the evening instead of in the morning.

Why not both?

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Cumming is cumming whether I am fucking or fapping. So you're saying my body knows when I am fapping and is like "fuck youuuuu no more hair" where is the science.

I'm only 2 days in to my no fap and struggling not to yank it
Pray for me boys

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I already told you what's up above.

Jesus Christ, I try to teach you dumbasses what's up and you ignore the shit.
Fuck you, you deserve the problems you have in life. TAKE WHAT I GAVE YOU AND GO DO MORE RESEARCH. FUCK.

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Porn is the only thing Jews give away for free. Keep that in mind.

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bump

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Well ideally you should be dating and getting laid, not masturbating. Nofap helps you with that motivation.

i've had sex with 4 different women (never as girlfriends though) and i am more satisfied from fapping

inb4
>lol just get a gf

i've never met a girl i wanted to spend my life with

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Go to bed Mason. The screaming videos of you are far worse and pretty much show you're batshit insane.

women are niggers.
venti looks like a new kind of demon.

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Part 1 Alright guys, hope this shit is not 404 by time I finish my sentiments. Been on half chan a while probably 8 years or so. Tist friend of mine has been here before b. we enjoy the memes and whatnot. Being that Jow Forums will probably disappear soon and it has been a big part of our lives and methods of communication, information, themes and memes I feel I owe this site and op a bit of information on our experience with porn and such. For me, throughout my experience on the internet, since its been well developed, ive jerked anywhere from once a week to 2x/day. I have a pregnant gf, but even with regular sex I find it hard to cum sometimes, well before she was pregnant, because I look at her body while fucking and its not anything close to my ventures with porn. It kind of turns me off and I have to close my eyes and imagine some scene or scenario just to orgasm. This isn’t true all the time, but if ive cranked it within 48 hours of fucking im not going to cum unless I use this tactic. Sometimes I don’t cum at all from the full sex experience. I fake it so she thinks were done. Now, that’s my negative side effects.

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Part 2 As for my friend, hes had a real porn addiction. He ventured deep into the web as the neet he is would do. He got to the point where he could only climax by watching the most vile of shit, imagine that south park episode where the internet is down and randy blows massive loads when he finally gets it back. Shit becomes unnatural quickly. Shit had gotten to the point where he wouldn’t go to a prostitute in fear of not being able to have an erection. He cant fuck a bitch if he tried, literally. This shit is sickening. Erectile disfunction due to porn is a real thing. He became motivated enough that he stopped looking at porn, fapped sparingly and wore a sleeve over his circumcised dick so it would become more sensitive just so he could have normal sex. This shit is poison to even the casual consumer and is addictive and catastrophic to those who are vulnerable. Give a valiant effort to reduce your consumption op. Oh and youre a faggot

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