Why does Jow Forums mostly believe in outdated and unscientific Eurocentrist racial ideas

Quite curious, it's like most on Jow Forums never finished school or studied biology.
Instead just mixed their own daddy's redneck teachings with some stuff they found here on Jow Forums and formed their ideas of race (which basically mirror Jim Crow or 17th century European delusions about race).

The irony here is that users actually think that what they believe in is scientific and is current. It reminds me of the flat earth forum and how users on there also believe that science supports them, it appears that huge amounts of time in an echo chamber make you guys lose touch of what the current positions even are. lol

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blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2013/05/why-race-as-a-biological-construct-matters/
blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2012/05/richard-dawkins-accepts-the-usefulness-of-race/
youtu.be/uz5igS5n720?t=6m35s
youtube.com/watch?v=c4cxOT8Kd7U
biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/440776v1
archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/h5Qozk1OMJ1MD6j-fopn2Q/type/op/
archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/kBygPSOdYxlaVOspjzWvEQ/type/op/
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/204577145/#q204577145
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1180234/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3951706/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1196372/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18466230
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24850919
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1365-294X.2007.03382.x
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11123614
journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0049837
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1893020/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14655871
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3531797/
biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/653279v1
rosenberglab.stanford.edu/papers/popstruct.pdf
degruyter.com/downloadpdf/j/anre.2015.78.issue-1/anre-2015-0002/anre-2015-0002.pdf
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Friedrich_Blumenbach
m.youtube.com/watch?v=nWBRTfLkzNs
twitter.com/SFWRedditImages

Prove your point, emotional arguments only work with women.

Very old outdated crap, before proper science came along is thrown around on Jow Forums here a lot. It also teaches some naive and uneducated people to adopt those beliefs.
< similar to that picture and stuff of that time. Things which are totally unscientific, but most users on here are susceptible as they have no scientific education to deduce old pseudo-science BS.


It's similar to how the flat earth forums post post century old text with very poor science and try to point to areas to insist the earth is flat. It's very piss poor, it's sad to know there are communities of dumb fucks who literally resurrect debunked BS and then live by it.

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Can guarantee that women are more logical than you, a literal low IQ 4channer from a shithole country.

The racial ideas of Jow Forums users are typically composed of literal Jim Crow era beliefs. Which probably came about by many of the republican users on here being raised by their fathers in that environment.

The Jim Crow beliefs were not independently created in America, instead it was a legacy the Europeans who colonised America brought over.
Of course Europeans today accept that these ideas are not only unscientific, but that they border on religious beliefs in their nature.

But many Americans in the south (especially Trump voters) are still living til this day with 17th century racial theories in their mind.

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This is very bad bait, at least try to make some semi coherent argument next time and you may get more replies. GL.

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>Thinks anime is meant to be Argentinian shithole people.

Oh boy.

You forgot to mention flat earth this time, try again, maybe add global warming too.

cry more that labor and the greens lost you soft cock

Race itself doesn't exist, it's a social construct. As intellectual scientists all agree and as biology shows.

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I am well aware most on here think global warming is a hoax created by the Chinese (Donald Trump believes this also, or at least pretended to, in order to cater to republican rednecks).

>outdated

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Think I give a fuck? Barely much changes, what do the liberals do? Jack shit, what does labor do? Jack shit.

The Greens would do stuff if they ever got in, but I think they are too radical and would actually cause the country to collapse. Their heart is in the right place in many areas, but their brain and practicality is totally out there on many things.

What drives you to post your meme pictures? I am curious, it's a sign of autism to try to communicate your emotions via cartoon pictures which you want to live vicariously though instead of normal communication methods.
Forgive me, seek help.

Ok, but add it to your future threads, also add the JQ and how its a "conspiracy theory" etc etc.

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Whats your opinion on Diablo 2 op?

Have problems in the last thread so had to create another one huh?..fucking kek...reword it however you want your wrong....have a good day cunt

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I don't care about Diablo 2, I don't know anything about it.
Never was interested in Diablo to begin with.

All you do is post Tucker, he is a god to you. Boy you must be a stupid one.
Go to school instead of watching fox news honey.

Why are you obsessed with black cock?

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Oh I forget, school and textbooks = indoctrination to these retarded rednecks.

Only Fox News, their priest and what mother and father say = truth. How sad.

Yes, because human populations seperated longer than dog breeds are identical genetically except for color. OP is a shitskin.

>Why race as a biological construct matters
blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2013/05/why-race-as-a-biological-construct-matters/

>Richard Dawkins accepts the usefulness of race
blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2012/05/richard-dawkins-accepts-the-usefulness-of-race/

>Steven Pinker: "There is a widespread myth that there is no such thing as race whatsoever, that it's purely a social construction"

youtu.be/uz5igS5n720?t=6m35s
>Do human Races Exist - with Professor Henry Harpending

youtube.com/watch?v=c4cxOT8Kd7U

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Another study with a similar result:
>Evidence for Bias of Genetic Ancestry in Resting State Functional MRI

>Resting state functional magnetic resonance imaging (rs-fMRI) is a popular imaging modality for mapping the functional connectivity of the brain. Rs-fMRI is, just like other neuroimaging modalities, subject to a series of technical and subject level biases that change the inferred connectivity pattern. In this work we predicted genetic ancestry from rs-fMRI connectivity data at very high performance (area under the ROC curve of 0.93). Thereby, we demonstrated that genetic ancestry is encoded in the functional connectivity pattern of the brain at rest. Consequently, genetic ancestry constitutes a bias that should be accounted for in the analysis of rs-fMRI data.
biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/440776v1

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This has got to be that same aussie shitposter from that other thread that only posted old cliches.

Fuck tucker did you read the words?...calling people honey isn’t an argument thats how women talk down to people passive aggressively....fpbp...cope

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WTF is that? There are like 25 million Australians bro, that isn't me.

I agree with his points though, black dick is bigger and that for some reason really pisses off Jow Forums people a lot, which is hilarious.

>muh dog breed.
Which are artificial creations, not via evolution.
Go back to school.

>WTF is that? There are like 25 million Australians bro, that isn't me.
AHAHAHAHA. Yes it is. You used to post this exact thread multiple times a day, everyday, a few months back. Example:

archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/h5Qozk1OMJ1MD6j-fopn2Q/type/op/

archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/kBygPSOdYxlaVOspjzWvEQ/type/op/

Race doesn't exist on a genetic level, sorry.

Black dick is bigger ..diffrence in race and genetics...blacks having bigger dicks is not a social construct...sage

>Fuck tucker
Yet you dumbasses love him and treat him as if he is a super scientist like Bill Nye.

The three major races lived in completely different environments. Dog breeds were just proof signifcant genetic change can happen in a short period of time.

There is a reason you don't work for the police as a profiler, you are the type of idiot who would come to the conclusion that most people on a website are the same person. lol

Bill nye scientist..holy shit..just quit humiliating yourself

Do you find Lauren Rose attractive OP?

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>Bill Nye
>Super Scientist
Try harder next time, you ruined your troll attempt, that was an awful giveaway

Mad that you've been exposed?

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>delusions about race

for starters if race is a social construct as lieberals say then they should have no issue with transracialism but they do.

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I never said certain biological differences don't exist, blacks typically are taller if fed properly and have more straight femur bones and can run faster and have longer arms also.

Yes, traits exist in different populations. But the 17th century racial ideas created in Europe are unscientific and so is the Jim Crow BS (yet these are what the majority of Jow Forums tards live their life by).

maybe

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>he is a super scientist like Bill Nye.
Interesting phrase to use.
>If race exists (which is the belief of race realists on Jow Forums and stormfront) then why do super scientists and intellectual titans all explain quite clearly how race doesn't exist?
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/204577145/#q204577145
And you deny that you're not the same person. HAHAHA, fagggot.

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>genetics are outdated

No one here believes in "17th century racial ideas". You might as well say evolution isn't true because of misunderstanding or outright fraud which has occurred in the past. It's idiotic.

If all races were one at point then certain people had different ideas and went to different places eventually becoming different peoples entirely.

This Humanity United nonses is childish.

Ahhh this thread again. OP you got BTFO'd last time and didn't even respond to half the posts including mine so why start another thread? Anyway here I go again.

Race exists and is biologically real.
P1) There are differences in patterns of visible physical features which correspond to geographic ancestry
P2) These patterns are exhibited between real groups, existing groups (i.e., individuals who share common ancestry)
P3) These real, existing groups that exhibit these physical patterns by geographic ancestry satisfy the conditions of minimalist race
C) Therefore race exists and is a biological reality

Furthermore

Cluster analysis predicts self-identified race with 97 percent accuracy
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1180234/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3951706/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1196372/

Races are as genetically distinguished as subspecies
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18466230
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24850919
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1365-294X.2007.03382.x
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11123614
journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0049837

Same race individuals are more genetically similar than non co-ethnics
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1893020/

More variation in than between is true of humans + chimps
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14655871

There are whole alleles present in some populations/races/clines and not in other.s increases with specificity
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3531797/

Previous fst estimates under evaluated differentiation in human pops. New calcs show that human differences may rise to the classification of separate species.
biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/653279v1

OP is a known troll.

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>The three major races
Oh boy, please go to school. What your daddy taught you is outdated by about 150 years. lol

We don't believe in 17th century racial ideas, we believe in 21st century racial ideas.

Pls anons stop, I was having a conversation with my new friend.

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The data on racial differenceces in dick size is awefull actually.

The 17th century racial ideas created by state nationalists in Europe were not backed by genetics you low IQ fuck.

Genetic testing which was possible centuries later actually put those unscientific delusions to bed, except for dumbass republicans who are uneducated and still live by Jim Crow BS.

You are a moron, even shitty animals with IQ's of like 5 spread over the continents to different areas.

>Genetic testing which was possible centuries later actually put those unscientific delusions to bed

Nope actually modern science has pretty much confirmed old timey concepts of race like caucasoid mongoloid australoid etc. See Rosenberg's findings of race.
racerosenberglab.stanford.edu/papers/popstruct.pdf

>We believe in 21st century racial ideas..........

Oh boy, if you actually went to school and studied biology then you would know there is a huge difference between Jim Crow/old Europe ideas and modern science in regards to population genetics and race.

Race isn't even a taxonomic rank, nor does it objectively exist (unlike sex). Sorry, pick up a textbook and start learning, instead of living in an echo chamber of rednecks on Jow Forums.

Yes... and? Animals also diverge varyingly. Just look at dogs.

tranny shills from discord out in full force today

>Oh boy, if you actually went to school and studied biology then you would know there is a huge difference between Jim Crow/old Europe ideas and modern science in regards to population genetics and race.

>user states we don't believe in 17th century racial ideas
>user responds by ridiculing user for believing in 17th century racial ideas

Just stop dude. You've been exposed a terrible troll.

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>obvious bait
Auzziepost/10

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What you're saying is a nonargument. It doesn't matter if concepts of race have changed over time or not. This is the same with any scientific postulate. And the fact that race may or may not rise to the some taxanomic rank like subspecies or species (which it can very well do of you look at fst values) it doesn't invalidate it either.

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how is that even possible?

discount pupinia

Reeeeeeee but race is only skin deep. Egalitarians btfo.

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Genetic testing shows that the difference between pre-invented groups is very small, where as 17th century racial ideas said that Africans were half ape and not even proper humans (and thus it was fine to enslave them as the bible didn't apply to them when it talked about "man").

Genetic testing showed that there are many ethnic groups with a lot of genetic variation and each have a complex origin, unlike the ideas of 17th century Europe which made 3 "races" that sprung into existence independently and that all other groups are a mixing between them.

Genetic testing shows that all groups descend from Africa, 17th century racial ideas postulated that each area people exist in is where they have always existed and where god created them. Meaning that Europeans arose in Europe from people that have been there forever and have nothing to do with Africa, if this is sounding very nationalistic then don't be shocked (as these original racial ideas were not in the field of science, but instead state nationalism).

The original 17th century racial ideas claimed that Europeans are white and are close to god and have souls, and that other groups are more akin to animals (at this point the idea that humans are also animals was considered preposterous to Christian Europe).

The original 17th century racial ideas would literally find bumps and contours on peoples heads and claim they could determine their personality and intelligence based on that (this is also listed as a pseudoscience today).


Yet all of these unscientific things are what redneck Jow Forums users live by. Pretty much any actual modern educational fact regarding population genetics is foreign to Jow Forums tards. Instead we are talking about the spawn of Jim Crow rednecks here. sorry

Oh and BTW, even anthropologists admit that they can't even identify people correctly based on the 3 racial type ideas. Sorry.
degruyter.com/downloadpdf/j/anre.2015.78.issue-1/anre-2015-0002/anre-2015-0002.pdf

>where as 17th century racial ideas
>The original 17th century racial ideas
>The original 17th century racial ideas
He's still doing it.

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Race wasn't a scientific concept your dumbass, it was a state nationalist based concept which was devised as a means to spread nationalism in 17th century Europe.

The founders of the theories were not scientists, nor were their ideas scientific. They were imaginations pulled out of their literal asses.

And no amount of meme pictures you saved to your little computer is going to make reality change in favour of your uneducated desires, sorry.

>meme pictures
Not an argument.

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None of what you said there adresses the classifications of caucasoid mongoloid australoid that I referred to

Wolves and Coyotes mate to produce urban predictors in Chicago and Toronto

>Race wasn't a scientific concept your dumbass

Yes it was. Dividing and classify human variation was a scientific persuit and universally accepted by the scientists of the time.

>The founders of the theories were not scientists, nor were their ideas scientific

This is false

Literally how could any one be fooled by her she sounded just like my aunt from Idaho

This wikipedia page should help you figure things out

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Friedrich_Blumenbach

Oh look, OP posted ANOTHER thread.
Pathetic.

I'd like to know aswell but OP doesn't seem to have any arguments. People who accept race but argue there aren't any meaningful cognitive differenceces are delusional but they still make more sense than OP. I call them secular creationists because they basically think the human brain was magically uneffected by selective pressures starting 150k years ago or that all races magically converged on the same genetic potential for iq in the 21st century. OP however I don't know what to call because he's trying to claim that race or genetic structure to human pops don't exist. Which isn't even something a creationist would argue for so idk.

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Sickle cell disease is still genetic.

degenerate, demonic, demoralizing, depressing, disgusting, dumb public suicide nigger cuck
niggered fuckee trash burns in hell

boycott the nappy niggers
discriminate the evil niggers

enforce the old anti-nigger laws
niggers, jail them all

deport the niggers back to aidsfrica
reinstitute apartheid for the niggers

re-enslave the niggers
penectomize and neuter the niggers

bomb and shoot up niggered blacked
Holocaust 2: Satanic Niggaboo, X Y DNA genocide edition

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Thankyou OP for bringing reason into this den of inbred racists.

On a related note; dog breeds are only fur deep. The only difference between a bitbull, and a chiuaua is the melanin in their fur.

Any behavioral patterns are purely a result of socioeconomic factors.

How do I know this? It's settled science, you goofball! I've never looked into it or anything, but I don't have to because it's settled.

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>Tfw you have to show pics of African albino mutts to prove that white race are ugly.
I guess even blacks recognize that the ugliest people are in their race.

>We're all the same, and diversity is our strength
It's too late for you now.

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Ok hear me out on this one. What if we could all agree that races exist BUT - this is the twist - we could STILL disagree on if that means we should have different laws/rules etc for different races?

This is caricature from satirical journal.

>We are all humans

Some humans contribute, others don't.

Bill nye butt stuff guy

I believe his argument will be that genetic variation between two randomly selected individuals within a race is as great as between two randoms from different races. Which is a point.
That doesn’t, however invalidate the genetic fact of racial clusters. That’s a counter point.
My take is that both points are valid, in that they both describe genetic facts. So if you want to derive a political point from genetics, you have to take both those facts into account.

Sure but that argument is also true of humans +chimps. There's more variation within humans than there is between humans and chimps. It just isn't a particularly salient point to make.

Been a minority my whole life.. so ready to live around nothing but white folks and never see a nig or spic again.. asians are cool

m.youtube.com/watch?v=nWBRTfLkzNs

yea we're all in our 80s and 90s so just shut up an wait for us to die

I don’t think that’s quite true though.

Races can be shown through DNA and Medicine.

How the fuck you going to argue about that? Roastie fucking blacked cuck.

poppycock, Jow Forums references only the cutting edge of the natural sciences

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It is see

Its incredibly sad that you reddit fags all unironically put Bill Nye in these cringeposts

DNA literally shows us the exact differences now.

As DNA research becomes more advanced we learn more and more about which differences in allele expression result in what morphological and physio-biological differences.

But hey, don't believe there is ANY difference. Go live in Haiti or Congo you hypocritical, faggot coward.

the nigger-nosed "European male" in your pic is Russian. here's an actual European albino

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