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>Africans making too many babies
Fixed that for ya. Every Christian knows god gave us free will.
god did do it though, not everyone is meant to live.
>children being spared the horrors of clown world
>bad thing
>blaming God for the actions of man
We humans have responsibilities too.
Claiming otherwise would mean that our behavior is completely deterministic, making discussions of evil/guilt/good/innocent redundant.
But God know everything
He know when he made you that you're going to be a serial rapist of little girl but create you anyway.
>he can't comprehend compatibilism
full on hard determinists are basically crypto-muslims.
>Every Christian knows god gave us free will.
There is no proof that God is able to give anything. There is nothing that exist or has existed that can be proven to have ever been given by God.
>But God know everything
There is no proof that God is able to know anything. There is nothing that exist or has existed that can be proven to have ever been known by God.
Man brought sin into the world fren
I dont think we will ever comprehend how damaging and how pervasive sin is until God reveals it in the end days.
God allowed Africa to exist to give Whites something to compare ourselves to and to be better than.
All death comes from rebellion against god so if children are dying it's because of evil parents that can't take care of them.
GOD DID EVERYTHING
I'm agree with you
I'm just showing to the theist cuck that even if his God exist well he create serial rapists and killers.
If God is all powerful he cannot be all good.
And if he's all good, he cannot be all powerfull.
Simple as that.
>Bad things happen therefore God doesn't exist
Wew lad
Either evolution was jump-started by an outside force, or the universe was literally designed to support life where ever the conditions are met. The rules of the universe are made for the production and development of life and intelligence, because life and intelligence are inherit features of the universe. And you think a perfect system of rules and cause and effect and life came out of nowhere? You have more faith than any of us.
No man has free will actually.
> french
> brings up diddling kids in a discussion about determinism
You are worrying me a bit my friend.
Us, not you. That's why the truth will set you free.
> God create a little girl rapist (He's Omniscient so he know the future)
> Rapist rape
> We are supposed to like this God
Golly gee
Why can't he be good if he is all powerful?
Also
>all good
Who are you to determine what is morally correct? You're a nobody.
It's like you're saying the desert was made for cactus.
> Having a exemple is worrying
Come on Boche
See
If you pulled your head out of your ass, you’d see that while pain and suffering on earth are horrible, they are temporary, and god can erase it all in heaven.
>everything's supposed to be sunshine, rainbows, unicorns, and gumdrops
fuck off hippie
>I watch the DVR of last night's game
>Knowing how it ends has somehow altered the free will of the players
If god would exist, he wouldn't have created the finns
The answer to the last one is also God did it and the children are now in Heaven.
Side note: Every time I see an Americans man now, I see a Jewish man. Just look at their faces.
You haven't dismissed my point tho
Except that you haven't created the players of the game so false equivalence. In the Logic of your God he already know everything, so free will doesn't exist.
Its funny how atheists always attack the weakest religion to scared of Mohammad's retribution or Abraham calling yall nazi's?
Side stepped. Thanks for the dodge. Free Will remains.
> free will doesn't exits
Whats stopping you from leaving this thread and diddling little girls?
> inb4 i'm a good person
without free will, that statement is worthless
No, it's like saying even in a desert things live.
> You're scared of Muslims
You haven't listen the Atheist Experience then.
They BTFO Lot's of Muslims and calls (((Muhammed))) a pedo.
>the truth will set you free
Jesus isn't a libertarian. The truth will set you free, but not in the sense that you could do whatever you want. Man can't even overcome their own urges, man is under total depravity.
>What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
>For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.
1 Corinthians 6:19-20. Paul of Tarsus said this, if you disagree with this, you disagree with St. Paul.
what i said is a direct refutation of what you said
nothing in life is supposed to be easy
the Kingdom of Heaven is what we strive for, not manmade luxuries
but, look at me, I'm arguing with a bad faith athiest
the same kind of people that shit on the Bible and Christianity but don't dare let anyone say bad about islam or else you're an islamophobic™ bigot
> Lol you have doge the point.
I haven't. A sport match is not the same as a all knowing God.
That doesn't answer my question. In the post I replied to you said nothing about omniscience. And you still haven't answered how you are the authority figure on universal morality.
>God already knows everything so free will doesn't exist
Not necessarily true. I believe time is an instant event that God exists outside of, not that he just has super deduction skills to know everything that will happen.
If you are all-powerful, all-knowing, all-forgiving, and all-good as you and your followers claim, why would you not make things better for your creation?
You know that empathy exist right? You know that even without religious education or parents we find empathy with babies?
Also Non religious children are more generous to others
>Only Christians
why embarrass yourself?
"Christians vs atheists" is a psyop for the goyim. Study Jews and their god instead.
What? Some of the biggest out-spoken atheists were very vocal about their dislike of Islam especially. I don't know why Jow Forums continues to disingenuously conflate commiefornia "atheists" who have a ton of political baggage, with the average red pilled one you'd find on Jow Forums. It's pure D&C shit.
>Carl sagan and dr nigger told me shit just happened and I gobbled it up like a retard that I am
Such a waste of trips, fuck.
Yet another get wasted, like tears in the rain.
God is sovereign over everything, including children dying. Mainline Christians are just too afraid to follow what the Bible actually says.
Regardless, human acts are totally different than natural phenomenon.
>God create a little girl rapist
God didn't create that individual rapist. He created the seed population which then multiplied and because of free will a small portion of their descendants will choose to rape.
Why is Jow Forums so obsessed with this religion?
The Creator of time must necessarily exist outside of time.
I was talking about your God. He's describe as kind and mercifull but he allow Rapist and psychopaths who will torture innocents people for nothing.
So even if you God exist he sucks balls.
Oh and fuck Judaism and fuck (((Islam))) with Mohamet the pedo warlord.
Exactly. And those that associated themselves with satanic deeds will promptly get irreversibly destroyed, forever. This is the true definition of hell, not some kiked pathetic le eternal pain fire n shiet nonsense. Earth is akin to purgatory for souls; a test of sorts.
But he's still know that this guy will rape and let him do it
Don't try to misinterpret me. You're a slave to sin without God, and only do evil and live in depravity. You make excuses for why your world is the way it is and scorn God for allowing it. When you learn the truth, you realize the evil you do is a result of your own weakness and gain the will to fight it. The free will is the will liberated from your own iniquity. To do what's right, regardless of the sin in your heart.
You don't know who my God is retard. And personally I believe someone who allows bad people to exist in their world can still be kind. Tolkien was kind to his good characters even though orcs existed. I think a fucked up world would be the one where evil doesn't exist.
If your god is omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent, as you claim, he's a dick and would be arrested and jailed for child abuse and neglect in the real world.
Then why more your country is religious more it is violent?
Why does the atheists don't represent most of Inmates population?
Some people believe in a god that didn't create time.
>You know that empathy exist right?
Acording to you, this is completely deterministic.
You don't get any browny points for beeing nice if you are programmed to.
So, Satan did it?
>hasn't read the Bible
>decides to comment anyway
this is why I called you a bad faith athiest in a previous post
you're just trying to stir shit with minimal understanding
satan /btfo/
The truth you speak of is the knowledge that the entirety of the christian church has been, since it's inception, a tool devised only to have the peasantry be ok with unending miserable conditions
This is the best you've got?!
Try again.
To be safe for all eternity:
A: Admit that you are a sinner, who violates the Will of God, and that you need a Saviour. Repent. Turn away from your sin and toward Jesus.
B: Believe that Jesus Christ, Son of God & Messiah, died for your sins and rose again, as prophesied and recorded in the Word of God. Trust in His finished work.
C: Call on His name, ask Him to save you, and confess that He is Lord.
>how do you explain the universe
Its not like the big bang theory is any less an ass pull as saying god did it.
fpbp
Where were the girls parents?
Where was her community?
Why was the girl in a position should could be raped?
How did the man become a rapist?
Was it because someone raped him?
>Then why more your country is religious more it is violent?
Because 90% of those didn't even read the bible and just parrot what their priest is preaching without thinking for themselfs (see Westboro)
But hey, they have no free will, so it's just a statistic.
So GOD is like Tolkien, we are just characters in God's book.
Gee, I dunno man, maybe because Faith=/=church? The bibles are kiked. The churches are kiked. The great babilon is literally the Vatican. There is a reason why the Lord condems idolatry, and your pic and the point that you're making only prove it.
>t.someone who hasn't read their bible
Satan currently owns the earth, that's why the second coming is so important.
If god offers eternal life, and the innocent automatically go to heaven,then what does it matter if god kills innocent children?
Seriously, that's the shittiest argument there
I would have stayed consistent and answered "God did it" to that last one.
God is like a farmer and farmers know that something's reaped early can be delicious. Ever have a baby carrot? God doesn't see you crying over baby carrots.
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If this were any other message board I could leave this post just like that but I feel like you need something to punctuate it... I'm forgetting something.... Oh right.. sorry..
NIGGERS AND JEWS!!!!
No
God has a pretty good idea of what your going to do before you do it
Children molested by priests? God did it!
Why does he get angry then?
I have no fear of you Ali. You prostrate yourself several times a day and beg your fake-as-fuck desert war god to dick your supplicated asshole.
At least the Christians can occasionally come up with a semi-rational argument while all your kind can do is scream "Aloha Snackbar" as you end yourself serving some wannabe politico.
Basically, you're just too fucking dumb to give a fuck about.
He never has sex.
>i refuse to acknowledge proof because i don't like certain things
>blablablabla God something something, its His fault although He doesn't exist
Classic...
Our representative from r/TheDonald has spoken.
We did the violence, but God let it happen. We live in a fallen world, we lost paradise where stuff like that would have been stopped by God. At the second coming of Christ, this will be restored.
You still have a choice
Its like telling children not to do something
If you have evr been a parent you have a pretty good idea which kids are going to do it and which kids arent.
You were given the rules you chose to break them.
Time to pay the piper
Why yes, I see the bible treats you like a little child so you react like one and behave like a moron, that's how they get you, treating you like little children.
>Pls don't be bad
Who the fuck cares?
Because most inmates are niggers and spics.
Compared to God we are like children.
Exploring the scientific literature on Remote Viewing or OOB experiences effortlessly shatters the atheistic paradigm.
You can literally leave your body and astral travel, looking back at your resting physical form, confirming it's just a vessel to house your spirit. You can explore the heavens, the depths of the earth, and even traverse the boundary of time. It's hard to comprehend that last one, I grew up secular and with science, it still seems to violate cause and effect, but it's real nonetheless, my lack of understanding doesn't negate that fact.
The secrets and knowledge you can acquire through this skill is effectively infinite. I don't dare talk about the specifics I've learned, because all the most powerful governments on Earth know all about this and have weaponized it to an extent - you don't want to mess with them.
Ryan Cropper is the best teacher I know.
Yes Christianity is garbage but the entity known as Jesus is real, strangely, but of course vastly older and different from the Biblical version.
Rare
"brownie points" as a concept is the idea that merely by approving of what someone's doing, they are given value
even in a deterministic system it makes conceptual sense to reward positive behaviour with social currency - evolution can take place in a deterministic system - altruism and empathy towards infants is a evolutionarily positive trait
basically empathy and evolutionarily profitable social reward mechanisms are not incompatible with determinism
NEXT
You realize most people have neither the intellect or self control to do the right thing right?
Look around you?
Do you see chaos and suffering?
How much worse would it be if we had no morals, laws or guiding principles?
Law of the jungle?
You should read pic related
Thats where we are heading
Here's your proof, nigger
religions are nothing but the fruit of ancient beliefs caused by a lack of proper proper scientific knowledge in the past, influenced by the culture of the very places in which they developed. Religion is simply an outdated man-made device, used to explain philosophy to average people (which were mostly ignorant in ancient times)
Everyone looks at all the shit happening today and blames God plan
Ever wonder if Satan has any plans? Ever take a good hard look at the west and unironically think that Satan doesn't exist? You're delusional
Your arrogance is astonishing, mate. Make yourself a favor and tone it down a notch
Muh science
Forgot to add something: a state closely related to religion will never be morally correct, that's why most islamic countries are literal shitholes.
Oh no, the problem of evil, how would two and a half thousand years of philosophers answering it would ever recover.
>millions of innocent children
Free will of man
>basically empathy and evolutionarily profitable social reward mechanisms are not incompatible with determinism
Ok sure, to a certain degree we ARE deterministic. Nature plays a big part.
But that doesn't mean we have no free will at all.
actual Christian answer: God did it
read Job