Do not invest into the stock market. In fact, refrain from buying and save as much money up as you can - you will thank me later.
Almost every single industry is in a huge bubble, including the stock market. Once the bubble will pop, it will lead to a debt crisis (the fed debt is hitting the ceiling, this exact thing dismantled the Soviet economy), and to the eventual collapse of the petrodollar.
If you do not want to fall victim to the coming geopolitical confrontation, save as much money as you can and do not under any circumstances get into the stock market.
Pic related sums everything up. However, this will have huge implications (China overcoming the US, trade wars, information and cyberwars, and so on), so if you want to avoid paying the price and stay away from it all save as much money as you can and avoid stocks.
Shiller's P/E ratio of the stock market - already worse than Black Tuesday: multpl.com/shiller-pe/
Tyler Torres
Macro in Jow Forums. You are literally one year and a half too late for this - Jow Forums is all about ponzis and moons. No one has the abilities to understand your shit.
Parker Reed
Got it, I'll buy more cryptocurrency
Juan Hernandez
what about weed stocks?
Jose Jackson
Why would it not just deflate slowly rather than crashing?
Zachary Lee
Stocks have been rising for way too long. Whether its going to be a correction or a full blown crash nobody knows
Levi Lewis
Panic.
Carson Morales
The 1930s answered this already. Panic. Everyone pulls at all once, it crumbles, entire corporations worth of stock become absolutely worthless.
Andrew Lee
That's retarded, you should be investing in the stock market, blue chips alone are ballooning.
Keep the rest of your money in Guaranteed Investment Certificates and if (when) the market collapses pull out your GICs, pay the penalty and buy into those juicy tech stock at historically low prices.
Asher Howard
Save up money. Save as much as you can. Once the new recession hits (we are about 1 year late according to the economic cycle theory), you will be able to buy things easier. Better yet, buy gold ETFs.
This recession is 1 year late (the Juglar cycle should be at its worst now), and everything is bubbled. Not only that, but the debt crisis will be provoked by the next recession - the debt has hit the ceiling. This means that this recession will be very, very bad. Far worse than was the case in 2007.
The debt ceiling will set off the petrodollar collapse, which is already happening (dollar is rapidly losing value to Euro, China is opening the way for petroyuan just now).
Things will get bad. Save money if you want to be safe from what is to come.
Jacob Cooper
Past performance is not indicative of the future performance. This is akin to gambler's fallacy.
Charles Scott
Thanks great idea I'll buy more crypto
Grayson Clark
>Better yet, buy gold ETFs.
Inverse ETFs you mean.
Aaron Brown
>Why would it not just deflate slowly rather than crashing?
I actually see a stagnant stock market for a decade drifting few percentiles slower every quarter, there is a demographic, debt and productivity crisis.
Jose Kelly
When do you think the stock market will peak, and why do you think that?
Julian Gonzalez
As if the falling dollar value wont just push more people into US equities...get real. 09 is not gonna happen again..everyone knows that would lead to socialism and disaster for USA. People with big $$ invested will continue to provide price support . Fed unwind will presnt an amazing buy opp. Tech is def gonna slide tho...sector shift coming and so much of tech is way overvalued.
Luis Edwards
>This means that this recession will be very, very bad. Far worse than was the case in 2007.
All they did was defer the pain and add to it.
Easton Roberts
>the elites will save us for reasons Yeah like they always do LMAO
Juan Rogers
This guy gets it
Gavin Jones
Timing peaks/lows is impossible. Anyone selling you they can do it, is lying.
Levi Powell
>As if the falling dollar value wont just push more people into US equities.
One word for you bonds. You are wrong. Never ever in recorded financial history as things been as big a mess as they are today in terms of interest rate, bonds and national debt. That I what havinga USSR 2.0 that tries to run economies via interest rates and money supply in stead of command economics does. There will be no recovery without a crash and a return to real capitalism where failures burn and successes soar. Citigroup should not exist, deutche bank should not exist. Italy has failed as a nation and should break up. Face reality and take the pain and built based on capitalism not keynsian shit or governments which are both bullshit. Any delay will just cause more stagnation.
Jeremiah Bailey
They would be saving themselves bud. People always talking about the end of the market and the big crash. Truth is 09 was the lowest prices we will see in our lifetime
petrodollar is a total meme. gold bug dollar bear made up bullshit. dollar is reserve cause it's the only viable currency. europe cancel their currency routinely and china is a total mess still. jpy is somewhere between
rates are still so low there is no way to go than stocks, and bonds you will lose everything going in now
Oh I agree, gonna be some pain..but an 09 like unwind will not happen. The bull market for bond sellers is over. Rates will rise and bond buyers will be in control. No one wants 2% trash when the gov is selling 4% yeilds.
Luis Ramirez
>rates are still so low there is no way to go than stocks
>Timing peaks/lows is impossible. Agreed. Was just wondering why you would be so comfortable investing right now. Guess you're just an optimist?
>They would be saving themselves bud See you think that an economic collapse would be as bad for the elite as it would be for you, like it will be somehow proportional. It won't.
>petrodollar is a total meme Damn son how can you be so wrong and so confident at the same time?
Robert Perry
>dollar is rapidly losing value to Euro sry to disrupt your theory, but euro is stronger only relatively. So is toilet paper to both our currencies. Wish that was a mere irony t. Eurofag
Its at state level now. The banks are even more poorly structured for a fall now then they were in 07
Auto loans student loans most still with bad mortgages on their books
Easton Nguyen
10 year bund 0.49% 2 year -0.63%
cause there is so much misinfo from all kinds of bullshit gold bugs out there, petro dollar is one of them. oil is what 5% at max of dollar trade. doesnt make any difference, and oil is slowly dying
Except if the interest rates rise, the gov will have to pay more for its debt, which means even more cash flowing out of the economy, and an eventual contraction in a form of a recession.
If the gov doesn't rise the interest rates, the bubble will get worse and eventually pop.
Think to remember is the sea monsters only get left on the beech when the tide rolls out. No one thought the banks were so incompetent in 07. They have not changed one bit but now the states are riddled with debt and the currencies are at snapping point. Worse than 07 is coming by far. When Alan Greenspan an Ron Paul both agree we are in for an epic crash you'd better listen. I just hope no more bailouts an the shit gets flushed this time around
Ryan Hughes
>what should I invest in once it happens?
Nothing this will last a decade. Shit like fb is worth millions not billions
Nolan Sullivan
Student loans are the greatest kike trick burgers fall into.I always expected crisis will be caused by that. Millennials taking huge loans to go to art school/gender studies then start working at starbucks(best case scenerio)
Jack Gray
Jarome Powell is basically Bernanke 3.0 (Yellen was 2.0)
There will be bailouts my friend.
Brayden Young
>petrodollar >goldbugs
Petrodollar is a term also used by the official Chinese media. It's a geopolitical concept.
If you see some things associated together (gold shilling and the word "petrodollar"), it doesn't mean one thing causes another. Correlation doesn't imply causation.
>there is so much misinfo from all kinds of bullshit gold bugs out there, petro dollar is one of them It's not misinfo it's a basic fact. The petrodollar isn't some fringe conspiracy theory lmao. If you don't understand what it is please refrain from offering financial advice.
Samuel Russell
>save money Enjoy hyper inflation wiping out your savings in 2 hours. This is going to be far worse than anything that has ever happened. We're talking 5hr lines for a bag of flour.
You'll be begging for 2008 when this shit comes home to roost.
If you aren't all in crypto you ain't even going to survive let alone make it.
Every day homie. Doesn't mean I think he's always right.
Adrian Watson
>stock market collapse begins 22nd May 2019 >screen dis
Austin Hill
The mainstream media openly talk about the petrodollar. It is not a meme. The concept has been around for a long time, and it is used routinely in geopolitics. It does not imply that only oil gives dollar value, but rather denotes the fact that dollar is used as an oil purchasing currency.
Evan Sullivan
painful to see people are so retarded on this board they post time series data without a log scale
Ethan Anderson
This is also why you don't want too many people knowing you hold crypto... The niggerazzi will be at your door went it all goes down.
Jayden Jackson
it's a total meme and a joke. this is an absolute 'peter schiff' level economics bullshit right there. there is no worse advice than these people give to clueless masses. it's almost the worse the advice the more the followers you gain it seems
Buy some far out of the money leap puts then and become ridiculously rich.
Mason Harris
>faggot anime shitposter who provides no reasonable counterarguments
Why am I even bothering with you?
Josiah Adams
dont forget the governemnt forcing you to be poor by banning all trade of gold, just like in the 1930s
Benjamin Phillips
this an anime imageboard you fucking redditor, leave
Gavin Wilson
Mate don't you have school in the morning? Your mom will be mad if you stay up too late again.
Caleb Harris
Enjoy burning your fiat for warmth brainlet
Connor Turner
keynesian faggot detected
Liam Rivera
Painful to see people still ‘saving’ inflationary currency
Justin Diaz
what do you think of real estate/land in the United STates?
Josiah Myers
People have been saying that since the market started...hasn't happened..won't happen
Jacob Williams
Jesus OP get a grip. You should be telling people to buy total international stock market funds, or emerging market funds, or just China stocks. But to tell them to just hold dollars and lose to inflation. RECKLESS
Daniel Fisher
The debt kept getting worse since the Vietnam war. The Soviets collapsed due to accumulating too much debt. The US will be on the same course if it continues its uncontrolled borrowing.
Hey user any advice for a young man? I am 19 I have 14k in the bank, 3k in my 401k, 2k in silver, 13.5k in crypto atm. Going to a community college while I work, going to graduate debt free. How do I ensure economic freedom, or at lest be safe for the next recision?
Hudson Cruz
>buy high
Jonathan Jenkins
It will be a correct strategy for some time. First, the bubble will pop, which means deflation. Second the government will be able to curb inflation in the short run through monetary policy of bond yield increasement. Right after the tech bubble pops, it will make sense to hold cash as everything will be cheap. But some years later the debt crisis will set in, and the petrodollar system will fall (means inflation). This is when you will refrain from buying and rely on the commodities and assets you bought in the first part of the crisis.
Josiah Bell
Some gaping holes in your logic. Unlike past bubbles, individuals and corporations aren't heavily leveraged, in fact, there is loads of cash on the sideline. Also, unemployment is very low, so consumers will be spending.
Worst case scenario, we'll see inflation, which is good for governments and stocks, bad for bonds. But if we see inflation, what assets become attractive? Scarce assets such as real estate, and, ironically, un-real estate, particularly scarce but liquid crypto, namely, Bitcoin.
The one thing you did get right is that you want cash on hand, but get ready to spend it IF inflation starts.
David Torres
>save money ok i have saved money now every has crashed what are you buying?
Nathan King
Focus on saving, buy bonds from countries with: low debt, stable economy and a good credit rating. Refrain from stock markets. Use the P/E ratio to check how overpriced or underpriced an asset is before buying it. Research value investing.
Justin Fisher
Buy undervalued assets. This means assets with a low P/E ratio. More exactly, assets with a low risk-adjusted and inflation-adjusted P/E ratio (Shiller's P/E).
Lucas Ortiz
In this year, yes. Not in a few years from now, though.
Brandon Adams
what about silver and crypto as a whole? investing (hoarding) chinese yuan maybe? what about housing market. im in canada btw. are we fucked?
Carson Jackson
unironically his timing could not be more perfect as most have deleted blockfolio and starting to pay attention to what is going on. you can tell by looking at the catalog more precious metals, doomsday scenario threads. we all know its coming. OP is on the money.
Gabriel Bell
Money coming in from China is helping to delay this crash for a few years.
Adam Harris
honestly, dont mean offense. but you come off more as a physic more than let say, someone thinking the sky will fall which is a pritty common knowledge for anyone that did a 2 second "research" on the internet.
Charles Howard
lmao shit like this is why i feel great being all in on the market
Kevin Ross
Avoid yuan. The Chinese have a bubble of their own (corporate debt that will translate into gov debt as recession fucks everything up). Not to mention the fact the US and China are gearing for war, which will happen (just like 1930s, which was a sequel to trade wars). I can't see how it would be wrong to go into gold/silver and crypto, housing market is also in a semi-bubble.
Alexander Torres
ugh, most silverbugs on biz & youtube community simply added crypto their portfolio. chances are, if your already into silver, your much more likely to have prep for guns, water and food as well. generally more paranoid (very variable levels in this community) and realistic fear which is a good and a bad thing really. healthy fear can keep you alive, just dont dwell on it and get sucked too deep to the point of living with a whats the point attitude.
Jonathan Gray
I never understand why people say "don't invest in the stock market, it will crash." If that's really true, doesn't that mean the smart thing to do is heavily invest in inverse ETFs and short the most vulnerable stocks? Your graphs show crashes happen faster than bull runs, so doesn't that mean crashes are bigger money making opportunities than bull runs?
Jackson Perez
>look at me, i'm using buzzwords >aren't i smart?
Jonathan Williams
hmmf, i thought the new chinese yuan/rmb was backed by gold. or atleast read an article sometime ago that it was. at for my local currency, i like to atleast hold 2k in cash just for shtf, incase cash withdrawal become very limited for w/e reason. shouldnt war be unfortunately beneficial to both countries tho? china & us war... as damaging it would be to the world... i'd be lying if i said i dont want to know/see what could happen... whens the last time conventional armies fought? 60 years ago? we never really saw gen 4+ jets fighting another gen 4+ jets toe to toe, same for tanks of same tier & class. i wonder if the chinese subs can actully do their magic as they claim, or their df 21 anti ship missle that supposedly travel at speed of mach 10. or the russian s400 and so on... this tech shit really makes me think...
Christian Peterson
>be greedy when others are fearful do you think people are afraid right now? general consensus outside of this chamber does not seem to concerned. besides the MSM constantly bashing Trump economics but now Trump is saying how great the economy is and just spent 1.3T in 6 months and some people blinked but everyone seems to have brushed it aside now? all i know is if what OP says eventually comes to fruition there will be panic that makes 1929 look like a joke.
Ayden Long
yeah go 50x long OP is retarded
James Miller
most people, even boomers are extremely uninterested in economics one bit. maybe 10-20% at most compared to sports where its atleast half the population. i wonder if its even possible to be fearful when society at large dont even pay attention untill its a national headline something bad just happened in the economy.
Xavier Jenkins
>silver As assets are generally overpriced, don't buy it during the bubble (now), buy it afterwards.
>crypto Too volatile, but this depends on the crypto. Might be a good alternative in the long run, once the initial volatility due to speculators (such as Jow Forums) will stop.
>yuan Too unpredictable.
>housing market Refrain from it for now. Always research whether a market is overvalued or undervalued before getting into it.
Luis Roberts
you do know that back then the average person could own stock at 10:1 leverage? apples and oranges. markets go up for many years from here, let the doomsdayers continue to complain the whole time
Jace Wilson
it's true that china has been amassing a lot of gold reserves in recent years, but the quantities are no where near sufficient (if I remember correctly, way below what the US has). And if a war actually happens, they would forego the gold standard much like what the US did when they started napalming some asians hiding in shrubbery and had to finance their war campaign through money printing.
War is beneficial to the economy as long as the fighting isn't waged on your territory (by damaging your infrastructure) and as long as you have the upper hand. The US has neither, nor does China.
Austin Flores
I'm a post-neet no coiner who plans to get into crypto soon, any advice?
Adrian Thompson
>As assets are generally overpriced, don't buy it during the bubble (now), buy it afterwards. general group think says to buy silver as a hedge vs hyper-inflation. are you saying assets across the board are simply overvalued and you should just wait until it all comes crashing down?
i need to hold fiat but not USD is what you are getting at?
Elijah Sanders
good shit op, and props for sharing it with them. dont get your hopes up though, just try to get your friends and family positioned accordingly and be careful out there
Cameron Robinson
You keep telling us to save money, but also that the petrodollar is going to collapse. What is money to you?
Elijah Russell
Stopped contributing to my 401k earlier this year, been saving every penny. People call me retarded but I've also been accumulating a tiny bit of crypto during the lows. Only thing that sucks ass is having to pay taxes to this shitty country while watching it go down the drain
Michael Torres
I got my money out of stock market last week. Market is volatile and the fed rate is rising. Being bullish is playing against the odds from my point of view.
Joshua Anderson
is day trading still possible?
I've ironically just started to become profitable at it.
