Legit thinking about just ending it unironically Jow Forums.. I can't take being stuck in the same grind every day. Dead end job, no family, no support, no friends, no freedom.
The media is conditioning people into hating people like me and saying I'm "privileged" but in reality I am pretty much at rock bottom with no hope or support because its all about ""PoC"" and Trans this-that and the other. There is no support for me, mentally or physically from anyone. I spoke to a doctor about this and they told me I'm just "depressed" and should try this anti-depressant medication etc.
You have women and men with wealthy parents or good jobs mainly through blatant nepotism calling me "privileged" despite my situation.. but these same people only post photos on social media in a different country every day. Showing off expensive shit meanwhile I struggle to eat and pay rent and close to living on the street! There is no hope for most people in 2018 even if you're financially comfortable you are still a target from everyone in society. It is so common now that it affects everything.
There is no hope for starting a family and focusing on that either since the large majority of women are largely whores and each day further blur the lines between being hardcore narcissists and amateur porn-stars. And you're supposed to settle with one of these worthless whores who can only take photos of themselves?
There is lesser hope for a career since quotas and "gender wage gap" bullshit has made it so employers hire more "diverse" candidates, this is assuming you even make it through college without being expelled for not using someones pronouns. Not to mention the hugely biased enrolment process which favors women, Jews, and minorities. Not even joking there have been studies done on this.
Then there is the growing stigma of simply being a white man. It doesn't matter if you're homeless and starving, some women or minority will take a picture of you and call you privileged for being white. The media will support them. They'll tweet it and get 300k retweets. Someone will offer them a job. A large brand name companies Twitter will reply to the Tweet "ha, we don't support homeless white males at X, would you like free stuff?"
Nicholas Gomez
Hey guess what, you are depressed. Either realize you are being tormented by your own thoughts or neck yourself to keep your sophism off of Jow Forums
I'm not "depressed" though. That's bullshit. I don't feel unhappy for no reason. There is a perfectly valid reason.
Because I start to feel like a parasite.
Anthony Powell
If you masturbate to porn that is literally your problem. Stop that and you will improve. At least try it fag if you cant stop then youre addicted and should try again
Jace Brooks
You have a valid reason to be upset but instead of being able to cope you collapse into a pile of shit and can't hold down a job. Everyone else realizes life is upsetting but we can cope and do shit about it. Go to therapy and take antidepressants and work on your goddamn coping skills.
Or neck yourself and stop posting about your shit in a goddamn business and investing board.
sage
Carter Morgan
I don't watch porn at all.
Jace Johnson
That's really good advice for business and investment
This larp sucks
Ryan Brown
>but instead of being able to cope you collapse into a pile of shit and can't hold down a job Cope for what? There is no future.
>Larp Heh, ok.
Lincoln Foster
You just need to be positive and put yourself out there!
Josiah Ward
>move to some shitty country >teach english >marry a local
Stoicism doesn't help in the environment we find ourselves in. Stoicism = passive. Aren't we all already passive enough? Modern society is built upon being passive and docile. It doesn't matter if you remain stoic, you're still in the same society.
Gavin Martinez
If you think stoicism is passivity you have maybe never ready any book at all. Get off of biz right fucking now and actually read stoicism and realize it's about the refinement of virtue, read the Gospel and hope God reveals himself, or GO FIST A WOODCHIPPER
Daniel Long
You are literally just lazy and want a good life handed to you and dropped on your lap.
Ethan Collins
I've read more books on Stoicism than you even know exist. Fucking Marcus Aurelius?! Woah, you must be a scholar. Fuck off. You can live happily because you're dumb as shit and ignorance is bliss. Not all are so fortunate.
Not at all.
Jaxson Wilson
Your illiterate petulance is improving this larp somewhat. Name one other stoic philosopher or work of stoic philosophy, and go ahead and mention some of its contents too.
Jacob Thompson
>>>r/nofap I remember being a 16-year-old virgin.
Logan Myers
If he's American only the extremely autistic (autism: retarded level) and shaniqua with her 6 kids will get it. Single white men NEVER get welfare or handouts due to "privilege".
Jonathan Green
not sure why people are calling OP retarded he literally couldn't have described life as a cisgendered white male in the year of our lord 2018 any more accurately
Benjamin Sanders
You should grow up or neck yourself too, currently living in a happy sexually fulfilled relationship with a woman I trust in a job I like, positive net worth. White male who didn't come from wealth. Got depressed, dealt with it.
Oliver Smith
>Not at all.
Okay, what's your job then? What industry do you want to work in? What kind of education do you have? What are your skills and how valuable are they? What are your goals and plans to improve your skill sets?
Ryan Diaz
Yeah, but it wasn't though. Stoicism is an excuse to be passive. Every 'stoic' I've ever met was just a passive aggressive retard. Fair enough you can borrow bits of it, but that is about it. I just find it offensive that you assume I haven't read entry level material. Who do you think I am? Some lazy video gayming retard? No. I've actively searched literature, culture, people, etc, for the solution, and still not found it. It's a growing problem anyway. Imagine 15 years from now how most modern males are going to turn out? They'll either identify as women or be scarily close to the edge. When the 16-19 year olds of today grow up, it's going to be totally over.
Those digits don't lie. We're fucked.
>I'm an exception so if you're not an exception too you should in fact kys Wow congrats genius
Nathan Hughes
Sorry just what exactly is upsetting you? The current structure of society? The way that society happened to become this way (instead of some other way)? As others have stated in this thread, I am a white male and doing ok. I think I have found some sort of happiness/contentment (albeit fleeting) by focusing on a small amount of close relationships, focusing on hobbies, getting off social media, reading (as you seem to be), etc.
Ayden Perry
So you haven't read either the Meditations or any other stoic philosophers and are relying on your skimming of a wikipedia article, huh?
You sound like a depressed narcissist to me. Keep whining about your superiority to the "average male"--which is an imaginary friend you mentally bully as a primitive coping mechanism, basically--while being so unhappy with your own life you want to die, that makes sense.
Brody Williams
Keep fighting the good fight my dude. All worth it eventually.
Hunter Cooper
lol winy faggot. 100 years ago weaklings like you were put in a uniform and sent to a warzone. either got there shot in the face or returned a real man. we should do that again. kys faggot OP
No I've read them and more, I simply ignored you because I don't want to turn this into a debate over semantics of a separate issue, instead of the actual issue.
I never said anything about superiority, you did. The rest of your post is probably projection but who knows these days.
SeeBottom post. You are the exception.
Jack Moore
>Lets send them off to fight in pointless wars to make the Jews who own the weapons industry even richer Real smart
Aaron Foster
>Because I start to feel like a parasite. Had sympathy for you until this point. Why regret leeching off the society you hate?
Kill yourself wagie
John Sanchez
I don't blame NEETs but I just can't do it personally.
I understand why neets have the attitude they do though. Its probably 60% laziness and 40% spite to an ever changing world that literally hates them and wants them to die. So they say fuck it
Henry Hughes
I bought all the books that Jordan Peterson reccomended - Buy 'Man's Search for Meaning' by Victor Frankyl on goodreads. It will figuratively change your life. Listen to Stefan Molyneux podcasts too - you're not alone mate.
Easton Lewis
No response, as expected. OP I predict you will keep soaking up and reading conspiracy theories until you feel suicidal, then make whiny Jow Forums posts in an endless cycle
>I've actively searched literature, culture, people, etc, for the solution It's called work nigga
Luis Sanders
Welcome to the 21st. It's a shitshow and if you take it seriously it will drive you insane. My advice is learn to laugh at it, and when picking up addictions (you will) make sure they're the less damaging ones (smoking is actually not that bad, just masturbating to porn is worse imo).
But yeah. Friends and social interaction help a lot when you're struggling. Made my first real friend last year and felt like coping was easier because of it.
Ian Jenkins
this is false, i live in a blue state and get autismbux
William Cruz
Jordan Peterson did nothing for me. It was like reading horoscopes to me. Some of it was interesting but it doesn't help me at all. I don't need to clean my room. I don't need to slay the dragon. I didn't have a bad relationship with my father. It seems like he is selling a self help guide with reworded shit in every other self help book, if you ask me. Just with a historic spin to it and references to the bible. But if it worked for you... As for his recs, I will check them out. Molyneux doesn't really help either, makes it worse if anything because of the stories the callers have..
I have a job you fucking ass. Try reading the thread. What the fuck does it matter for this particular discussion? It doesn't. I work a shitty dead end job. What you gonna do, tell me to go back to college? Wow. You're a genius. Life is so simple isn't it? >Just go back to college. Just do X. Just do Y. Bills? What are those? I live with my parents and collect anime figurines. Responsibilities? N/A! Life doesn't work like that
Eli Campbell
I smoke cigarettes. Don't watch porn. Don't do drugs. Lately I've been seriously considering just becoming a lowlife hedonist who doesn't care about anything but being high. Why not? Trying to be upstanding doesn't seem to be working out. Being responsible doesn't seem to be working out. I would get more support if I was fucked up and a menace to society. That's the sickening irony.
Jordan Price
Sorry, I am not trying to say that you are the exception. In fact, the world may somehow objectively be fucked up and as such people such as yourself might succumb to depression by "seeing the world for what it really is", and yet people like me either a) do not care about the poor state of the world or b) are in such a state of self-denial that c) we are more happier/content than you are.
i literally do not have a single answer for you, just trying to see where you're coming from.
+1 for Frankl -1 for Peterson, he's a fuckin' meme 0 for Molyneux, I don't know him.
my gut reaction and my undergraduate level readings in the humanities from many years ago tell me that technology has a large part to play with our unhappiness. we're too connected, we have access to too much shit, we can't concentrate and we're just injected with information that we cannot parse and make sense of. I don't think there's any way to test that theory though, instead we can only speculate.
You know what to do fella, leave your 2 posts as your manifesto and go out with a bang trying to beat the high score, you could even spark the flames of revolution
Ryder Morgan
Also, what conspiracy theory? Wtf are you talking about? Nothing of what I said is conspiracy
Grayson Wood
op, your sin is pride humble yourself and seek christ
god bless
Evan Ramirez
I think you're mistaken about the hedonist stuff. Remember, you aren't a normie. Normies live from moment to moment and there is no moment where they snap out and realise their life is worthless. If by some chance that happens to them they quickly find a distraction to keep it away (Alcohol, netflix binging, whatever it is).
I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume you're the stereotype 120 IQ INTP/INTJ Jow Forums user. You probably want to build some discipline. Develop a skill. But autistically focusing on these things will still mean you're depressed because you're constantly thinking about ways to become happy rather than appreciating life. You need to strike a balance of constipation, discipline and finding peace.
Granted, these things are very hard, especially if you've experienced some trauma in your life, but the reward becomes greater if that is the case.
I'm afraid I really think it's being too distracted that you don't care so much. When you're literally stuck in the same position in life, in the same place, no hope of escape, the reality hits you extremely quickly. Rich and successful people still feel how I feel, they just have more distractions. Imo, if you don't feel the way I do about life in 2018, then you are either a) benefiting personally in some way from the world we live in as it stands right now b) too distracted c) too apathetic to bother to look behind the curtain
And I don't mean that as a personal insult, that's just how I see it. If you're not pessimistic of the future, then I fail to understand the reality you live in. Because even if I was financially stable, had support, had loyal friends, etc, I would still see the general direction in which we are travelling as a society, and that alone is enough to make me somewhat sick, or "depressed".
And as for the latter part about too much information, I agree, but there is no way to shut it off other than moving to a remote location and living like a hermit. Which is not really feasible either..
Jace Torres
>What the fuck does it matter for this particular discussion?
Because this is Jow Forums you stupid retard, you should be whining about muh society on Jow Forums or mu depression Jow Forums
Dylan Lopez
Thanks, I don't take what you said as an insult. And yes, I believe I can check all of your a), b), and c) boxes.
I will say that I very much AM pessimistic about the future. And I'll backtrack in what I've said earlier and mention that I do get depressed for these very same reasons that you are. I have serious internal dialogues with myself about NOT having children for the reasons we are talking about now.
We are hurtling into some crazy shit. The structure of society is not how I'd like it to be and it is such that the general human race is negatively affected. Again, (and here comes my NPR talk), I am white, male, STEM salary, blah blah, and so I do not have to deal with the daily bullshit that what I suspect the vast MAJORITY of people have to deal with re: obtaining enough money to sustain themselves, finding work etc etc.
And no, doing some Ted Kaczynski hermit-in-the-woods-check-out-my-manifesto-shit will not help either.
>Because even if I was financially stable, had support, had loyal friends, etc, I would still see the general direction in which we are travelling as a society, and that alone is enough to make me somewhat sick, or "depressed".
Sorry to bring on the stoic bullshit (assuming what I'm about to say would be called "stoic) but once you had these boxes checked (money, friends, whatever you or me or society thinks makes people happy) I can only come to the conclusion that you literally MUST accept the world we live in. There is no other alternative. At this point you really need to make a sort of existential decision on what you want to do with your life, given that you were born in this time and place and that's just the way it is. Do you keep the nice banking job in NYC? Do you work for a non-profit with the idea of trying to improve XYZ? Do you move to a small town and simply try to not be an asshole and perhaps open a small business in town and directly affect the lives of the townsfolk?
