What is 'Scientific Proof'? Do you even know the meaning of this concept? There's NO scientific proof of men walking on the moon -nothing. If you wish to contend differently you're one or all of these apply :
1. you're a fucking sub 120IQ moron and cannot entertain anything contrary to 'authoritative' statements 2. you're just ignorant and don't know what scientific proof is. 3. you're a fanatical NASA'tard and will believe anything from despite anything to the contrary
In 1980, long time skeptic of the Apollo Moon missions, Bill Kaysing appeared on the Oprah Winfrey show, detailing how NASA had conned the American people into believing that they had landed men on the Moon. A national survey at the time by the program makers showed a staggering 60% of Americans believed the Moon landings were faked. We have moved on a further 39 years, and still there are those who believe NASA lies.
Bill Kaysing offered to appear on a live TV debate with any of the Apollo astronauts, NASA officials, or even the whole lot of them together, verses him on his own, to answer questions, and debate the authenticity of Apollo. However both astronauts and NASA continually declined for any such meeting/debate on television.
This photograph appears in Patrick Moore's book "Mission to the Planets" and Mr Moore claims that Armstrong took the picture when approaching the Moon, with SHADOW of the space craft visible on the Moon's surface. Mr. Moore also claims that the large crater in this picture, (Maskelyne) is 19 miles in diameter.
If that be so, that is one mighty big space ship orbiting the Moon. NASA now claim that it is not a shadow, Each time an anomaly, pops up, NASA reply with the most absurd comments.
WORLDWIDE OPEN SECRET!! Solely Mr. Dec heralds the TRUE GOD in the ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE! Not even in The Truth, oy vey Pravda, is Mr. Francis E. Dec Esquire's EIGHT PAGE DETAILED LETTER exposing the Worldwide Deadly Communist Gangster Computer God and the worse-deadliest enemy of the entire human race and the entire UNIVERSE in the entire HISTORY of the entire universe; namely the COMMUNIST- ATHEIST CONSPIRAC.Y with ALL of the Deadly Gangster unbelievable sophisticated Frankenstein Controls, the Catholic Church.
These facts, like the below facts, can not be found in the Communist Gangster Computer God concocted- and-manipulated so-called "history" and news media!
Communist Gangster Computer God unbelievably staged, like Hollywood, scum-on-top "Tsarina" - alias "Great Dictator" Franklin D. Roosevelt - the POLIO PARALYZED legless DRUG ADDICT idiotic suicidal "Tsarina" FAG who had his unbeatable rival Will Rogers EXTERMINATED in an EXPLODING BALL OF FLAME by a PLANTED BOMB here in "safe" USA airfield shortly after take-off at the end of Will Rogers' unprecedented renowned arduous round-the-world goodwill flying trip with Wiley Post in his beautiful, electronically sophisticated luxurious ultra-modern Winnie Mae airplane!
Not only all stairways had inclines added for "Tsarina" Roosevelt's com-puterized wheelchair but a football field-sized glass house-type building was built in back of the White House for his medicinal, piped-in pure warmed seawater into his gigantic suicide-proof two feet-deep swimming pool where he waded naked with his nurses and had SODOMY AFFAIRS. Ones very near to him have written POPULAR BOOKS about his SODOMY oy vey love affairs! Already in his third term he was a HELPLESS AND USELESS STRETCHER CASE, incapable of even appearing at his fourth term convention!
Michael Perry
Take your meds.
Colton Myers
This One-world Communist, who married his immediate cousin Eleanor Roosevelt, like his runted sickly pock-faced grandfather (propa-gandized as a hunter and a sports-man, TEDDY Roosevelt, here from Oyster Bay Long Island, the ROSENFELT FAMILY - another Computer God Top Secret camoflage for "gifted" Ethiopians!) As a big time kid Gangster Politician (Computer God even RAISED HIS AGE for "historical" purposes), Teddy Roosevelt was PAID OFF with the Vice President do-absolutely-nothing-farce-position title!
Repeatedly, Vice Presidents have successfully WAITED and LURKED to eliminate El Presidenté! Oy vey, below are a few examples:
So the kiddish gangster Teddy Roosevelt lured midwestern DOLT McKinley into New York for exter-mination, like the lowly guttermouth big L.B. Johnson lured playboy sodo-mist-in-with-the-Mafia Jack Kennedy into his home town Dallas. Wide open people say it was the three brothers Sam, Milton and Lyman JACOBSEN who, with the judges, feloniously swindled the Governor of Texas out of the U.S. Senator election -shortly before Lyman was FIXED as the compromise "choice" for Jack Kennedy's Vice Presidential nominee!
Who ever saw a LYNDON married to a tiny runt "Birdie"?! Under Computer God orders, even "Birdie" now has changed her name for "historical" purposes to "Lady Bird", nu? And even her ETHIOPIAN SURNAME is now changed to "Taylor"! It was this scummy bum lowly Gangster Lyman, as Presidenté, who had the gigantic "Tsarina" swimming pool DEEPENED several feet to a regular swimming pool and regularly had naked Sodomy Swimming Parties with women personnel! GANGSTER MONKEY SEE, GANGSTER MONKEY DO!! Now even the Pope John in the Vatican has a similar swimming pool, to share with the endless numbers of nuns to help him forget his good old days as a married-man-naked-in-bed with HIGH HOLY COMMUNION SODOMY!!
Jordan Jackson
he's talking to you and reminding himself.
Ian Diaz
Abe Lincoln's (Computer God alias for "ABE LINN COHN") law partner was Stanton. Abe, and the Gangster Courts, feloniously conspired fabricated patent infringements to swindle thousands of dollars from C. McCormick Reaper Machinery Company. As President, Abe made Stanton a Cabinet member. In order to automatically become President, Stanton concocted a GRANDIOSE MURDER SCHEME to murder not only Lincoln but also the Vice President and Secretary of State! Secretly, Vice President Johnson overseered it; Lincoln was murdered and Secretary of State Seward was VERY seriously injured!
Automatic President Harry "Shimmelman" Truman, in terror, gave political concessions to Congress to enact abolishment of the automatic succession to the Presidency by Cabinet members. For cheap conspired felonious party-fix, Gangster Nixon GAVE Presidency to dolt felon "Gerry Ford" (another Computer God alias!) - the wide-open lifelong felon-bribe extortionist, forgerer and CHECK LAUNDERER Gerry Ford!
David Eisenscheimer (or "Eisenshanker"); another runted, negroidically-befreckled semi-illiterate cowardly yokel kid. Also: Jimmy Carter who shared the sodomy drug- beds of the military academy with niggers. Under secret Computer God orders upon graduation, CIA changed even his FAMILY GRAVESTONES!
"Camp David" in Maryland was named AFTER him, FOR him and BY him, including the Division of SS, "Secret Service", troops who even tended his playboy giant golf course! Here Davy Eisenshanker hid in COWARDLY TERROR and watched World War II on Eyesight TV! His "historical" name: "Dwight Eisenhower"!
As president, for months, he was dying. In a coma. Useless and helpless. Oy vey.
Jeremiah Young
Sneak, shameless hangman rope Gangster government leaders into Frankenstein living-death eternal slavery: I now GO TO DEATH for YOUR lowest deadly felony-crimes against ME! Franken-stein Earphone Radio Parroting Puppet Gangster Slave: Do not DARE to repeat any part of this truthful message! For like Mr. Francis E. Dec, Esq., YOU TOO are EXPENDABLE and YOU TOO can be BEATEN BLOODILY by the Gangster Police and DRAGGED IN CHAINS into a windowless telephone booth-type prison cell and put into Maximum Security Insanity Prison for UNDETECTABLE EXTERMINATION and by the lowest gangsterism - namely THE LAW - character-assassinated FOR LIFE as an INSANE, CRIMINAL MENACE to this WORSE GANGSTER COMMUNISM!
Now that your be-sweated, terrified, trembling DELIRIUM has subsided; have your Computer Subdivision play out my letter! And you; re-read my letter FOR YOUR ONLY HOPE FOR A FUTURE!!
Francis E. Dec, Esquire, 29 Maple Ave, Hempstead, NY.
Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God scum-on-top staged like Hollywood with plastic pale stand-in actors with Communist Gangster Computer God speed recording instantaneous, simultaneous edited-simulated voices; implanted for all TV and news media microphones in any known language! Unbelievable con-artist Gangsterism, solely for the Overall Plan: WORLD- WIDE ETERNAL FRANKENSTEIN LIVING-DEATH SLAVERY! Yokel felon King Jimmy Carter; slime from the academies which Mr. Dec intelligently refused unsolicited acceptance to - the most elite academy from here in Niggertown - and even insidious CON ARTIST Gangster Divorcée Pope John - they BOTH speak SPANISH and even PORTUGESE! Solely Mr. Dec exposes False Gods, Sodomy and Gomorrah of you Worldwide Computer God parroting puppet Gangster Slaves!
MAKE COPIES FOR YOURSELF! You hangman rope gangster scum-on-top, laugh your MAD GIGGLE now!!
Liam Thompson
tHE vAN hALEN bELT WOULD HAVE IRRADIATED THE ASTRONAUTS. IT'S FAKE!
Jeremiah White
The moon is an intra and maybe inter galactic space ship.
>you're a fanatical NASA'tard and will believe anything from despite anything to the contrary Personally, I'm the exact opposite. I know a shit ton of people who work for NASA, and the chance that they could pull off stealing candy from a baby, much less something of this scale, are 0 to none.
Benjamin Cook
>video CIA Langley Moon Simulation centre. Project Lola. They could have faked the moon landing from here quite convincingly.
what would constitute scientific proof of the Apollo missions?
>independent a body that is independent from NASA and not reliant on funds
>verifiable it can travel to the moon to take high resolution photos of the actually Apollo artifacts below 100m and this information is released into the public domain.
>repeatable future independent missions can go to the Apollo sites and confirm their veracity
All of this was achieved by China who apparently did this with Chang'e 2 but NEVER released the footage, ergo, Apollo has still NEVER been proven scientifically.
Now unfortunately Apollo is unfalsifiable, since there is a 'no flyzone' over ALL APOLLO sites and a 2.5 mile proximity ban on the ground.
This means Apollo can NEVER be proven scientifically.
>no scientific proof OP ever passed science classes beyond grade 4 mix the bubble bath with water and draw the bubbles
Thomas James
Looking down from the top of the gantry on to the simulated Lunar Surface. James Hansen writes: "To make the simulated landings more authentic, [Donald] Hewes and his men filled the base of the huge eight-legged, red-and-white structure with dirt and modeled it to resemble the moons surface. They erected floodlights at the proper angles to simulate lunar light and installed a black screen at the far end of the gantry to mimic the airless lunar "sky." Hewes personally climbed into the fake craters with cans of everyday black enamel to spray them so that the astronauts could experience the shadows that they would see during the actual moon landing." (p. 375) From A.W. Vigil, "Piloted Space-Flight Simulation at Langley Research Center," Paper presented at the American Society of Mechanical Engineers, 1966 Winter Meeting, New York, NY, November 27 - December 1, 1966. "Ground-based simulators are not very satisfactory for studying the problems associated with the final phases of landing. This is due primarily to the fact that the visual scene cannot be simulated with sufficient realism. For this reason it is preferable to go to some sort of flight-test simulator which can provide real-life visual cues. One research facility designed to study the final phases of lunar landing is in operation at Langley. ... The facility is an overhead crane structure about 250 feet tall and 400 feet long. The crane system supports five-sixths of the vehicles weight through servo-driven vertical cables. The remaining one-sixth of the vehicle weight pulls the vehicle downward simulating the lunar gravitational force. During actual flights the overhead crane system is slaved to keep the cable near vertical at all times.
Jose Diaz
Alright schizo but I post whatever the hell I want.
Christian Wilson
A gimbal system on the vehicle permits angular freedom for pitch, roll, and yaw. The facility is capable of testing vehicles up to 20,000 pounds. A research vehicle, weighing 10,500 pounds fully loaded, is being used and is shown [in this picture]. This vehicle is provided with a large degree of flexibility in cockpit positions, instrumentation, and control parameters. It has main engines of 6,000 pounds thrust, throttle able down to 600 pounds, and attitude jets. This facility is studying the problems of the final 200 feet of lunar landing and the problems of maneuvering about in close proximity to the lunar surface." Published in James R. Hansen, Spaceflight Revolution: NASA Langley Research Center From Sputnik to Apollo, (Washington: NASA, 1995), pp. 373-37
Because men never actually landed on the moon, that's why.
Dominic Barnes
sooooo close...
the moon landing is fake conspiracy was started by them.
The conspiracy isnt whether we went or not but it is why we didnt go back (publicly).
Ask yourself this question. Does it matter whether we landing on the moon at that point or not? It doesnt matter. What matters is why 50-60 years later we havent gone back.
See we dont discuss why we dont go back but whether we ever went in the first place.
>What is 'Scientific Proof'? when you take a 80K consumer satellite and view the rover we left on the lunar surface with it?
Joshua White
>Does it matter whether we landing on the moon at that point or not? if the space mining industry is going to be a thing then yes, and according to VP Mike Pence we will have a moon base up and running by the end of Trump's 2nd term
BUT the public is shown a bullshit video to convince yall we never went and its impossible. Dont think about whats on the moon guys. Lets debate whether we ever went or not.
Zachary Thomas
Agreed. that is my point. Debating whether or not armstrong stepped foot on the moon is irrelevant. WHAT IS RELEVANT is that we went there many many times.
How do you think we will build a base so quickly? BECAUSE IT ALREADY EXISTS!
Trump openly talks about humans being on MARS and SOON.. Yet to the public that seems impossible. We have people on the moon and mars right now.
Yet because of their tricks we dont discuss that we discuss grainy footage 60 years old...They are very very good at pysops and propaganda. Jow Forums always underestimates them.
Josiah Murphy
Thank you, someone gets it.
I don't tell 'normies' we didn't go to the moon, if they want to believe that similar to Santa, Jesus and other faith based stories which promote the best ideals and good of humanity, that's fine.The only position I take with people when pressed is there's no Scientific Proof of the Apollo landings and that's true even today.
Not everything has to be true, to be inspiring, otherwise people wouldn't write fiction.
Ethan Long
Where's the scientific proof? Why are we still waiting for it?
its classified. They dont want you to know. Thats the point dude. They want you to think its impossible. Thats why they hide it. Whatever techonology you think you know about doesnt even scratch the surface of how advance the black projects are.
Carson Russell
Of course, but the rabbit hole goes way deeper, as it turns out the whole concept of "space" was manufactured and the earth is actually flat. Great lengths were traveled by the governments to obscure this fact to this day.
Not scientific PROOF. another moron who doesn't understand the concept of Popperian proof.
Gabriel Lopez
Man these shills are fucking lazy hacks.
Cooper Garcia
((((((Space))))))
Logan Hernandez
>Whatever techonology you think you know about doesnt even scratch the surface of how advance the black projects are.
Such as? I've looked into these crazy claims and I doubt it's remotely true, otherwise wars against Syria, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan would be won overnight.
Luis Diaz
Non of this is 'scientific proof' user. You really need to understand what falsification is and what it means.
it's like me saying I cloned a child and held up pictures that looked like the child (SELENE, Chandrayann) or I've got a video of the said cloned child but I'm not releasing it to you (Chang'e 2) >SELENE photographs In 2008, the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) SELENE lunar probe obtained several photographs showing evidence of Moon landings.[1] On the left are two photos taken on the lunar surface by the Apollo 15 astronauts August 2, 1971 during EVA 3 at station 9A near Hadley Rille. On the right is a 2008 reconstruction from images taken by the SELENE terrain camera and 3D projected to the same vantage point as the surface photos. The terrain is a close match within the SELENE camera resolution of 10 metres.
>Chandrayaan-1 As with SELENE, the Terrain Mapping Camera of India's Chandrayaan-1 probe did not have enough resolution to record Apollo hardware. Nevertheless, as with SELENE, Chandrayaan-1 independently recorded evidence of lighter, disturbed soil around the Apollo 15 site.
>Chang'e 2 China's second lunar probe, Chang'e 2, which was launched in 2010 is capable of capturing lunar surface images with a resolution of up to 1.3 metres. It claims to have spotted traces of the Apollo landings and the lunar Rover, though the relevant imagery has not been publicly identified.
Cameron Butler
Thanks for making the point of OP. NASA is a compartmentalized shitshow staffed by retards. Always has been. Hell, they even outsourced to a million subcontractors for these “space missions” so as to ensure no one had too much knowledge of what was going on.
Wyatt Barnes
I went to the moon
Anyone saying I didn't is a schizo and should take its meds
ok so the chinese the japanese the russians are all in on it?
Austin Jones
Thank you sir. It bothers me that nobody asks simple questions, I don't see people making this argument but it's the only legitimate argument Apollo doubters have.If you want to claim a scientific accomplishment there's a well established methodology to prove such claims.
Joseph Long
No, you're missing the point regarding Popperian standards and falsification. If you don't understand that you've lots of reading to do.
Lincoln Hill
>'scientific proof' They left a mirror. You can bounce a laser off it and measure it.
Anthony James
>They left a mirror. You can bounce a laser off it and measure it.
granted but it's NOT scientific proof, in terms of falsification at best it's good evidence
lots of reading? i searched and its at most 2 minutes of reading did you just learnt this and came here thinking you are smart or something?
there is no evidence available to the public of the landing that is true there are several independent parties that claim to have evidence despite their best interests
Jacob Price
"proof" kek you need to reread propper
Liam Rivera
The classic, "I want to feel like I'm ahead of the bell curve and devote my self to some internet conspiracy bullshit".
Luis Young
Sir, with all due respect, you don't under Popperian falsification
Logan Taylor
>GIBS ME PROOF *post proof* >NO NO NO NO NO!!! NOT THAT PROOF!!! god I hope you morons don’t breed
Caleb Wright
That's nice user, I'm merely stating a fact that Apollo doesn't meet the standards of Scientific proof.
Cameron Mitchell
Another user that doesn't under Scientific Proof.
Jaxon Ortiz
Sage and reported. I'm tired of you idiots shitting up this board with /x/ tier conspiracy theories.
We've been sending primitive rovers up there since 1986, but they are black projects.
Jackson Adams
Looks like an astronaut learning to walk on moon gravity.
I never saw videos of this, but heard they fell over a lot until they literally learned to hop around in the suits because the gravity was so low and dust was so soft that the only way to move was skipping like little kids learn to do at a young age.
Hudson Sanders
>Popperian proof isn't even universally accepted. Moron. Another user that doesn't under Scientific Proof. [3]
Ayden Jackson
science thinks the ocean is going to raise 10 feet.
Owen Butler
define proof
Thomas Cox
shoot yourself. Popper declared several branches of science "unscientific" since they didn't fit his radical new definition of "proof".
James Powell
>science thinks are you trolling or this retarded
Isaac Flores
Another user that doesn't under Scientific Proof. [4]
Another user that doesn't under Scientific Proof. [5] OR READ A THREAD see
Brayden Long
Fuck all of this autistic moon shit. Cypriot bro, do you consider your self to be a hellenized levantine or an actual gayreek?
Another user that doesn't under Scientific Proof. [5]
John Torres
I'm a kike
Oliver Nelson
Are you mentally retarded?
James Martin
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Grayson Rogers
>heh, another person to give a canned copy-paste reply to I don’t give a flying fuck about this Popper guy, I’m mocking you for acting like a fucking leftyfag who worships science only to refuse admitting that there are only two biological genders.
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Adam Torres
The LRO shows almost everything that you are asking for except one site.
Jonathan Ward
Yo, dumbass, your particular method isn't absolute. Popper isn't anywhere close to universally accepted, and you just made this thread because you saw a r*ddit thread about it and wanted to flex your knowledge.
Evan Harris
Guy, the schizophrenics’ board is that way.
William Gutierrez
If you don't understand what Falsification is, I'm going to post cut and paste.
Sir, if the LRO images were recieved and encoded by an independent orgainisation NOT NASA, then that would be proof.
Lincoln Reed
>Another user that still doesn't under Scientific Proof. [8]
Robert Edwards
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Isaiah Jones
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