How is Arabic still a single language?

>it's another "European tries to sound smart while being a retard"
Cantonese, Mandarin, and all the other languages are considered dialects even if they're mutually unintelligible. Ones not from the same language family are obviously not "Chinese."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_language

Not even the Chinks think Dai or Tibetan are the same language as Standard Mandarin. But they definitely think Minnan, Cantonese, Hakka, Xiang, and every other Sinitic dialect are all the same language

Most Pan-Arabists and salafi muslims, so most of the arab world, considers them the same language.

Are you able to understand Arabic speakers from other countries?

There are a lot of "languages" that are in a similar sociolinguistic situation like "Zapotec", "Malay", "Hmong", "Guarani", "Aymara", "Quechua", "Mandingo" etc

More attempts to make dialects official could be the solution. That is if the people want it.

I can understand Khaleeji and some syrian, if they don't use very colloquial versions of their dialects, because I lived in Saudi Arabia and had several levantine friends.

The last attempt was in Egypt in 1922 or so iirc. However, I doubt most people would want that.

> However, I doubt most people would want that.
This being the reason I assume, and maybe it not being an issue among the people. For us it was no problem, since
the British just placed it as an official language(along with English) to replace Italian.

Let's say my dialect becomes official: which one will it be? Oran's? Constantine's? Biskra's? Algerian darija has diverse variants, not just one dialect that every algerians speak.

Lol
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Said_Akl

Well same thing with Egypt. There is bedouin, Sa'idi/Upper Egyptian and Egyptian/Lower Egyptian. However, most people know the lower egyptian dialect.

Well in Egypt from the period of around 1880 to 1940, egyptians never thought they were the same as gulfies or moroccans. However, with the rise of Gamal Abdel-Nasser and his pan-arabism ideology, the romanization of the Egyptian dialect never occured.

It entirelly depends on politics, castillans in valencia try to make valencia a diferent language than catalan out of hate while the valencia speakers know that it's the same language spoken in rousillon and mallorca

No offence but why are maronites so autistic?

I think there's no point in making a dialect an official language: it unnecessary serves a political agenda and would never represent all the population.

You seem mad, why would this bother you?

yes, the political agenda being the protection of a people and a culture, something that france hates

>Lebs calling their dialect of 'bic phoenician

very impressive

mildly honestly. its mostly a "dream" that people know that wont ever happen. though i recall there being a influx of not wanting to be called arab (Lebs are great example of this)

I'm not mad. I just dislike anyone who tries to act superior to someone else.

so you hate every french then

>superior
How is wanting to dispose of a script considered archaic and tedious to a local dialect an act of supremacy?

>got even kicked by SSNP

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I think that's because he disliked palestinians

for a jacobin french who wants one world with one law and one french speaking goberment every intent of having a difering cultural trait is seen as a threat so they acuse it of being an action of supremacism when in fact, no one has never been more supremacists than french
its the old tactic of acusing the enemy of what you are doing

Those advocating for language reforms always say stuff like "we are distinct" or "nothing like" khaleeji.
It's like saying, Spain and Latin America have nothing to do with one another.

He's algerian dude

or doesn't want a great levantine union

Irredentism is a mental illness

>a union with a very close people is a mental illness

its like saying north germans uniting with bavarians is a mental illness

>According to DSM-IV, a mental disorder is a psychological syndrome or pattern which is associated with distress (e.g. via a painful symptom), disability (impairment in one or more important areas of functioning), increased risk of death, or causes a significant loss of autonomy
German nationalism is most definitely a mental illness

Sorry man but the idea of being lumped in one state with a sunni majority sends chills down my spine. I can understand uniting with north-western syria since they speak the nusayri dialect also spoken among eastern and northern lebanese, plus they're secular docile alawis. But i'd like to see you try forcing secularism on a nigger from idlib for example, no thanks

i guess the only way for a union is till we all somehow secularize the majority.

Antoun Saadeh's manifesto was ahead of its time

The there is nothing wrong with Arabic script.

>secular docile alawis

Lol

WRONG

Alawis are nowhere near secular lmao. it's mostly shia's and sunni's who live mostly in urban provinces are secular.

They are, i have atheist friends from Bhamra and Tartus whom i regularly fetch a beer with

I did not know that

Plenty of Western linguists have studied this topic and all came to the conclusion that they're different versions of Arabic

>What do you want?"
chnowa theb/chtebgha

Who care about your small irrelevant country

reminder
algeria historically was divided between tunisia and morocco stay mad

It'd be like saying Portuguese, Spanish, French, etc. are all dialects of "Latin". Nobody speaks Latin, just the offshoots.

But I'm not algerian myself :D
I'm french with north african origins :)

Because every arab can speak Arabic fus7a so Arabic is still one language oh and the ME dialects are super easy to understand. Only maghrebi and sudanese/Somalia can be hard to understand. Indian diaspora fails at causing disunity in the arab world yet again.

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Algeria is about 4 times bigger than France.

Well, true. But we Shamis are falling into conflict with the Khaleej and we are leaning towards Iran. A lot people just won't consider themselves as same as people from the Khaleej.

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And do you know who made it that big?

>they won't consider themselves the same people as khaleejis
The hate for khaleejis already exists here for various political and economic reasons but we still identify with arabism broadly speaking and it doesn't seem like anything will change.
For us shamis(and the levant/egypt in general) no matter how much the eternal jew tries to subvert our unified identity with the khaleej he will ultimately fail for arab nationalism has been the most prevent ideology for us for a century. The maghrebi nations seem to have accepted the tamzgha meme tho.

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>The chad Chadic speaker and the virgin Dhofari

You're putting words into OP's mouth, and the only thing that belongs there is a dick. OP seems clear of insidious agenda as he did not address the fragmented dialects as a reason to drop the pan-arabic sentiment, you need to work on your reading comprehension and stop shoving politics into everything.

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Well it seems people like OP often have a secret agenda :)

I'm not in the mood for you shit kreig. He is implying that we should consider each dialect its own language which does subvert the pan Arabic sentiment since one of the only things holding us together is language.

Just remember:
وَلَوْ شَاءَ رَبُّكَ لَجَعَلَ النَّاسَ أُمَّةً وَاحِدَةً ۖ وَلَا يَزَالُونَ مُخْتَلِفِينَ (118)إِلَّا مَن رَّحِمَ رَبُّكَ ۚ وَلِذَٰلِكَ خَلَقَهُمْ ۗ وَتَمَّتْ كَلِمَةُ رَبِّكَ لَأَمْلَأَنَّ جَهَنَّمَ مِنَ الْجِنَّةِ وَالنَّاسِ أَجْمَعِينَ

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If what's holding your ideal together is a language that barely exists, maybe you need a new ideal.

lol this is inaccurate, Somalis barely speak Arabic infact in my whole family only 1 grandmother speaks it due to living Yemen for a period.

We speak Somali.

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Linguistics and culture are the defining aspects of pan arabism

Why are MENAs such weebfags

QESHURPAMJE

I am not an indian diaspora.

Personally, I believe that acknowledging the differences first and then promoting Pan-Arabism is better desu.

>I think that everyone from the MENA region claims that they speak the same language just because of political reasons rather than linguistic reasons desu.

Political or religious?

>Chinese is the same way, totally different mutually unintelligible dialects are "the same language." Compare to basically identical Spanish and Italian which are supposedly different languages

>basically identical Spanish and Italian

They maybe similar but far from identical, look at this little example:

For plural in Spanish you just add an s at the end on the word and that's it.

In Italian all words end in a vocal (unless they are loanwords) so it's not possible to add an s to form the plural.

They maybe similar, but they are different languages.

It's because of Arab nationalism and pan-arabism so maybe it's more of a political thing than a religious one?

Aramaic is also diverse and written with 7 different scripts depending on the community, and few doubt that it's a single language.

I want to cut iff your head, there us no such thing as v********* or c*********

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