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Didn't saw desu
Santa Cruz fort in Oran, built the Spanish in the 16th century.
God i wish i was black
How do muslims deal with the parts of Islam that might seem embarrasing in contemporary societies because of changing social mores? In specific terms I'm talking about
>The prophet marrying a girl aged 9 years
>The prophet getting a woman to divorce his son in law and marrying her instead
>Aisha washing the prophet's semen stained clothing
>Light radiating from the prophet's mothers genitals towards Syria
Do people just ignore these points in religious education, just state them matter of factly or what?
Please understand that I'm not trying to bait anyone here. All religions have stuff like this, the Hindpoos worship a literal penis and have naked godesses having sex with animals, the Greeks have their own share of bestiality and incest. These are things that are not surprising in an ancient religion, but I'm curious to know how contemporary Islamic society views them or discusses them.
wh*Teoids btfo
Give al-Tamimi pls
>Light radiating from the prophet's mothers genitals towards Syria
hahahaha wtf
How is that BTFOing whites? Your "prophet" who loves 6 years old and is a gentleman to wait til she was 9, is apparently white rofl
none of that is true poo in loo
Inside
t. buttmad wh*Tey
Not this khichdi again...
unironically, seek well versed imams in fiqh, hadith and the journey of the prophet to answer your questions.
Even if you are feeling kinship with us here we are the most lost flock in the ummah. Your faith will only degenerate if you sought our help.
That's what I thought
Reminder if you ever speak to an arab, statistically speaking, he is most likely inbred and marrying cousins is 100% normal for them
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Need to find a vid of a mul7id getting executed
>Al-Tabaraani narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “My mother saw in a dream that there came from between her legs a lamp that illuminated the palaces of Syria.” Classed as hasan by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Jaami’, 224.
See above, to be honest I came across most of this stuff from Jow Forums tier posts, but checking them on good I found them to be true.
>Volume 1, Book 4, Number 229: Narrated 'Aisha: I used to wash the traces of Janaba (semen) from the clothes of the Prophet and he used to go for prayers while traces of water were still on it (water spots were still visible).
40. (O believers, know that) Muhammad is not the father of any man among you, but he is the Messenger of God and the Seal of the Prophets.20 God has full knowledge of everything.
Aaaaaaaah yes, i'm sure the people who came up with these studies aren't biased at all and don't have an agenda
>unironically, seek well versed imams
I don't want to be beaten with shoes. I'll assume most Muslims don't know about this stuff as it doesn't get mentioned anymore. It's mostly the Islamophobes who dig stuff like this out to humiliate muslims, I guess
>That's what I thought
>Reminder if you ever speak to an arab, statistically speaking, he is most likely inbred and marrying cousins is 100% normal for them
>en.wikipedia.org
>be arab
>marry your toddler cousin
>simultaneously lash out at the race of people who are kind enough to grant you refuge in their wealthy nations
Hadith is bs. The "muslims" will accept some parts of it and deny what they dont like. They should deny all hadith and just focus on quran and bible.
>m-mutt!
I'd rather be a full blown Ameriorc than sub 100 IQ inbred tbqh
T. Doesn't know shot anout muslims. All mainstream sunni clerics state that all hadith sahih should be taken seriously.
I know most of this stuff and i can't say that i can properly reply to each point.
No one will stone you brother, present your argument properly and in a polite manner to a young-ish imam and he will be glad to answer your questions.
Or a mobasher.
uh hello? check my flag?
I don't think that would be right. See, Muslim clerics and scholars believe that the hadith are vital for interpreting the Quran and that it is possible to misinterpret it if one only uses the Quran as a source. See
>be American
>do the same thing
I've noticed 3 distinct kinds of kuffar: those who think they have already a better answer, think there is no answer, or dont care what the answer.
So? Whether you're arab or not doesn't make what I've said untrue
Just looking at the average hook nosed arab, it's painfully obvious inbreeding is extremely common
Why are you acting as if cousin marriages are taboo in the Middle East, when you know it is not?
el ogre de las americas...
when are you arabs taking your mizrahis back?
Leave the american alone, he is bored and is trying to get a rise from us.
Not true. A lot of them argue about the origins of many of the hadiths.
>1937
People who say Arabs are stuck in the stone age are simply bigots. Early 20th century is much more accurate
based masri, one of the rare masris that shouldnt be hanged.
>I know most of this stuff
Again, I'm not looking for justifications of this. The point about Aisha washing the prophet's semen is probably a point about his living like an ascetic so much so that he didn't even have an extra pair of clothes to wear for namaz. Which is understandable.
I just want to know how these parts of Islam are introduced in religious trending. Or rather, how did you come to know about this stuff, I don't your parents would be okay discussing this with you
Quran contradicts the Bible.
If Muslims followed the Bible they'd be Christians.
Did you even read my post. I said hadith sahih.
>cabin instead an apartment in city
of fuckin course
Quranists or apostates are the biggest idiots. Wallahi save yourself trouble and just kill them wherever you find them, don't even argue with them
you can keep them shlomo.
i hope drumpf is gonna bomb one of your cunts so hard just for the sake of it
Honestly most Muslims nowadays don't care about that and focus on the 5 pillars
Yeah because they want to make money off those stories. Why Muhammad is mentioned 4 times in Quran? Why are all the stories of Muhammad outside Quran? I think that Muhammad was a nickname for Jesus and then it got made into a separate prophet through hadith.
why? they are literally arabs without the islam part
I respect all religions, mate. I'm very curious about Islam, in fact I'm also reading the Quran currently. But I get where you are coming from, the points I brought up are usually raised by Islamophobes, in fact that's where I came to know about them, but again, I mean no disrespect. All religions have stuff like this.
Even then, some of them argue about whether the hadith was designed for society back then or if it's still applicable to today's society. A lot of them also debate the bias in hadiths.
you can keep them schlomo
>islamaphobe
A phobia is a fear. People bringing up the pedophile Mohammed are not so much afraid (maybe for their infant daughters) as they are disgusted
I am not muslim m8. The quran is the arabian take on the Bible
Give me one single mainstream sunni cleric who belittled hadith sahih.
>American flag posts
>thread ruined
they are jews in a jewish state
hanged? why...
Reading into tafsir, hadith and exposure to atheists will bring all this to light. I'm not proud to say this but my faith-was at a point- shaken, only when i learned to avoid and ignore such distractions and focus on true and shining proofs of why islam was right and divine was my faith restored.
And i have discussed those kind of things with my parents they gave me the same advice that i gave you.
Seek professional help.
This
>WAHHHHHHHHH HE BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT MY GOD MOHAMET FUCKED BABIES! THRAD RUINED!
Why not refute or defend it? You know a part of you wants to.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Ironic.
just messing with you bro, its just that i slightly dislike egyptians
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Can we discuss slurs and swear words in /mena/ societies, please? What are some of the most offensive swear words you can use for another person?
Also, how would a normal person react to being called
>kuffar
>takfir
>jahil
Are these terms you would use with your mates, like motherfucker is in America?
Phobia and homophobe/Islamophobe are two different things. An Islamophobe is someone with an intense hatred of Islam
five or six cans of lager and a few lines of chang and everything just feels fantastic. you can go about life as normal but just feeling mint and energetic and ready for anything
>I'm not proud to say this but my faith-was at a point- shaken, only when i learned to avoid and ignore such distractions and focus on true and shining proofs of why islam was right and divine was my faith restored.
Welcome to the club brudda, after thinking about it, these type of details are far away from being at the core of Islam and its theology
if you call someone a kaffir and he doesn't know you, and if you keep a straight face saying it he will murder you.
the second one has no meaning you dumb poo in loo and the third means ignorant.
It is not about the subject, it is your autism.
I was just autistically larping but you should try to avoid sensitive subjects, especially with muslims.
>el goblino being a pedophile makes it okay that my prophet is one too!
Let me pull the same shit muslims do, and inform you that this is simply jewish misinfo
is this a calculated move for her family to stay in power after britain falls to islam?
>expoure to athiests
Elaborate
Was thinking about the other burger, not you..
understandable, also please stop feeding the american he will leave soon enough.
Thanks? but right you are, those stuff are literal minute details that give nothing and remove nothing from the faith.
La creatura el diablo creacion...dios mio...
No, please leave.
Nigga GO TO Jow Forums seriously Jow Forums isn't for these kind of debates... actually all of Jow Forums isn't fit for that
>his country is the name of a nigger shoe
lmfao
el aberracion...
>actually all of Jow Forums isn't fit for that
I want phoneposters to leave
Wut? I asked you to explain what exposure to athiests did to you?
Truly does the creator offer a destiny for us all. 91 years and still kicking. Was she blessed by Allah to live those years or was it the supremacy of Muhammad's genes that allowed her to live long?
Your flag triggers the moslem
>15 to 17 year olds
But that's not child marriage? In some western countries you can get married at 16 with your parents' approval and nobody considers 16 year olds as children instead of teenagers/young adults
Could you at least tell us how Muslims view the prophet's marriage with Aisha? Do you think it was okay for him to marry a 9 year old because that was how tribal, Bedouin society was in those days with extremely short life expectancy?
you are simply not welcome here, you will not be taken seriously no matter what point you make or how valid it is, we dislike you and your presence, so leave now, or stay, we don't really care, but don't expect to get (you)s after this post
can we take a moment and appreciate young chechen men?
For all we know 9 back then could have meant 19, and even if it meant 9 aisha was pubescent at that age females back then reached puberty much earlier, not to mention back then it was widely practiced.
>mods deleted /desi/
What the fuck
>a bloo bloo they called me rapist profit a pedohile! i dont wanna hear it!
Get shot by IDF
This
Fuck off. /mena/ is a pro American board before r/arab came here.
>For all we know 9 back then could have meant 19
Most don't really care, Muhammad (sws) isn't and never had to be worshipped. There's a part who acknowledge that it was way back in time when these kind of marriages were something normal in, not only 7th century Arabia, but almost everywhere in the world. The other part who question the age of Ayesha (ra) and consider that she was older and thus question hadith too and another part who just doesn't care and focus on Islam, not such details
So, basically what I said, which is okay.
It is what we deserve Kashmiri-bruh. Funny you should come online, I was reading articles by AG Noorani on Kashmir
They deleteded /desi/? Why?
The problem with Islam isn't gimmicks like Mohammed being a pedo or killing some jews. The problem with islam is that huge chunks of it is suelss and outdated and is not advancing our own mena society.
>inb4 tips fedora memes.
My parents believe she was a teenager when they first had sex
He's ugly
Aisha didnt exist in quran
So the problem is, Islam?
Good post