Who is the greatest leader that your people ever had?

All these bongs saying someone other than Pitt the Younger

Nixon was dirty as a dog’s balls, but he was also a fairly smart politician. He helped end the Vietnam War, started detente with the Russians, gave the American Indians more autonomy, founded the EPA and normalized relations with China.

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I wasn't implying anything.

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Medici mecha popes were kinda cool

Depends where you're from here, but nearly all the boomers where I'm from worship Ronald Reagan. But I've noticed that on the west coast he's pretty much seen as Satan's incarnate

Soon, Inshallah.

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He's unelected but by god is he based.

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Teddy Roosevelt was pretty cool.

Detente amounted to nothing more than us laying down like sheep while Moscow plundered our technological base/military secrets unhindered and continued their relentless arms buildup.

I doubt it's anyone in the past century for you lot

What's so good about him?

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>Nixon was dirty as a dog’s balls, but he was also a fairly smart politician

Truth be told, Nixon was an opportunist of the crassest sort and he never had a lot of long-term thinking, he thought only in terms of immediate gain and looked to quick fixes for everything.

Him and Kissinger were men who lived within the Cold War and believed at best in balance-of-power diplomacy, they never had Reagan's vision of a world without Soviet communism.

Lord Palmerston is widely remembered for his foreign policies and was very liberal for his time. He was also very patriotic and well liked by the public

“A Frenchman, thinking to be highly complimentary, said to Palmerston: 'If I were not a Frenchman, I should wish to be an Englishman'; to which Pam replied: 'If I were not an Englishman, I should wish to be an Englishman.'”

“I will not talk of non-intervention, for it is not an English word.”

Pitt the Elder was opposed to government corruption and helped build a cleaner political establishment. His popularity was also boosted by his dedication to victory over France in the Seven Years War. The American city of Pittsborough is named after him after it was recaptured from occupying French forces.

“If I were an American, as I am an Englishman, while a foreign troop was landed in my country, I never would lay down my arms — never, never, never.”

“Unlimited power is apt to corrupt the minds of those who possess it; and this I know, my lords, that where laws end, tyranny begins.”

Our greatest king would probably be Henry II. Greatest queen would be Elizabeth I.

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What was important, WWII or the Napoleonic Wars?

Both

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Nixon was a good president, you fucking frog.

And worse, Nixon and Kissinger only saw geopolitics in terms of state power, they didn't have the vision to realize that it was blue jeans and rock music rather than nuclear warheads that would conquer communism. The Soviet system was doomed to fail simply because it could not produce a society that anyone would actually want to live in.

Documents circulated in the Kremlin during 1980 painted a rather grim view that Moscow in the long run could not win the superpower confrontation technologically, economically, or most significantly, in terms of having a sellable ideology.

>'If I were not an Englishman, I should wish to be an Englishman.'”
Sounds like a bit of a dick

Reagan and nacy were dipshit astrologists from kikewood that did whatever their jew masters told them. They permanently fucked politics in this country and ensured it became the spic filled shithole it is today.

>Jimmy Carter

absolutely fucking kill yourself kid

LORD PALMERSTON!

Carter was the guy who let his engineer's sense be overridden by popular politics such as banning construction of new nuclear reactors after Three Mile Island to appease hippies.

really made me think

inb4 noodle-slurping National voters

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Where would Corbyn send people for the gulag? What's the ass end of the UK?

People barely learn about British history. In highschool they learn maybe three significant wars and that's it. Usually the English Civil War, WW2 and something else. Then they'll focus on early 20th century America, Russia or/and Germany. It's shocking how little Brits know of Britain's history and leaders. You'd think the empire never existed at all.

Dude you're either French or naive

>What's the ass end of the UK?

Probably one of those islands off the coast of Scotland

Or Birmingham

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Lenin unironically but he wasn't officially leader

>Lenin
Can I ask why? Are you a Leninist?

>literally every problem the uk has in the present day can be linked back to post-war soft-socialism
Fix'd

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Not true. Housing being shit and unaffordable rests entirely on her shoulders.

Lmao not even mad

Founded the country basically and it was pretty a pretty good country considering

Why?

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Her massive expansion and subsidisation of the Right to Buy scheme.
theconversation.com/thatcher-helped-people-to-buy-their-own-homes-but-the-poorest-paid-the-price-50133

Ah, council housing. Well, nobody is stopping those living in it from improving it, are they?

She gutted the UK's manufacturing industry. So yes.

>gutted
It was already dead

She was so bad she got sacked by her own party.

Based

The only good thing she did was joining the European Community.

t. Martin Schultz voter

Yeah, it's not like every economist agrees that joining the single market contributed to the following economic boom, fuck off commie.

>single economic market
Literally the only good thing in a sea of centralization cancer

Nixon wasn't the worst president, despite being an all-around shitty person and crooked as hell.

> centralization cancer
A single market needs unified standards and a leveled playing field or otherwise you get governments trying to undercut each other with market interventions, in fact virtually all regulations implemented by the EU and its institutions are requests by the involved industries. Only someone who is severely economically illiterate wouldn't be aware of this.

>you get governments trying to undercut each other with market interventions
>what is Euro

George Washington

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A single currency that is meant to prevent governments trying to undercut each other with market interventions in form of national monetary policy. If you are someone that is supporting the free market and free circulation then you can't support national central banks, sorry.

This is a contradiction.

>national central banks are bad
>supranational central banks are good
I'm seeing a strange dichotomy here. Fiat currency is supposed to react to what is happening in the country. If you don't let it, you'll see far worse than countries trying to screw each other through exchange rates and interventions.

>national central banks are bad
>supranational central banks are good

I never said this. I'm not a liberal. I'm just pointing out that you can't claim to be pro-free market / liberal whatever and support national currencies, central banks or even national governments without contradicting yourself.

>destroys every industry Britain has left
>turns UK into a tax haven for third world billionaires
wow so based

I wonder if after 100 years Putin will be knows as a best Russian leader (Stalin was great, but terror he did is not acceptable).

>Carter in the same tier as Roosevelt and Nixon

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You can when the comparison is with the EU and its "one size fits all" policy

Putin is the only thing holding Russia together. After he is gone, you will get somebody like Yeltsin again, who will sell the country to American interest

>You can
You literally can't. If you support the existence of national central banks that have the power to control the supply of currency then you are supporting state intervention into the market and you are not a supporter of the free market.

This bitch brought a fatal blow on UK which had already been feeble.

National banks are the leser evil compared to supranational banks. So yeah, I can.

>National banks are the leser evil compared to supranational banks. So yeah, I can.
Cognitive dissonance.

How is a smaller unit that can (no guarantee that it will but there is the possibility) react to the needs of the country worse than large one that benefits only some/none and can't react because the "country" is so large better?

It was already destroyed, she just cut off a bunch of terminal leaches so the country didn't collapse

not him, but would you argue that regional banks would be better than national banks?

and instead of building up new industry, she chose the easy way out, turning Britain into a tax haven.
This is the reason why UK is so weak today

Frankly, money ought to be decentralized again. Cryptos (once the bubbles burst) are a step in the right direction. Centralized banking will always benefit governments more than it ever benefits people.

Was she right?

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cryptos will always cause bubbles since there is no central institution to control the inflation

According to polls it was the socialist Jew

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Inflation is literally controlled by the algorithm

Either this guy...

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...or this guy.

Everyone else has been terrible.

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wtf no it is not
look at the deflation of bitcoin

>deflation of bitcoin
Are bitcoins already out there being returned into the digital void?

Too bad he was killed so early.

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are you pretending there is no huge bubble currently going on?

I literally said it hereBut expecting cryptos to always be a bubble is dumb.

people will always use cryptos for speculation instead of transaction, this will always cause bubbles

Not once it's saturated, prices stabilize and a convenient payment method is devised

tokenization makes more sense than the current ipo

private captial are launching a token on a ico instead
why keep black pools black?

best leader we ever had, i wish he ruled us forever

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>What's the ass end of the UK?
London.

the prize will never stabilize, since there are no prize stabilizing mechanisms in place