Short and simple question. Who's the bad guy in Syria? Also define bad (Like, killed more, fired first, used gas, etc)
Short and simple question. Who's the bad guy in Syria? Also define bad (Like, killed more, fired first, used gas, etc)
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>Who's the bad guy in Syria?
Unironically. Literally. Honestly. Truthfully.:
Animal Assad.
The US and their pet islamists are the bad guys tbqh.
ISIS obviously, then the rebels, then Assad's government. None of them is great but Assad could at least keep the country stable after the war.
Israel, Turks, FSA, jihadis (Nusra, ISIS etc)
Russia + Assmad
Whoever started this mess in the first place.
>Bush Administration Probes Syria's Future With Assad's Opposition
>Saturday, March 26, 2005
washingtonpost.com
>The Bush administration is reaching out to the Syrian opposition because of growing concerns that unrest in Lebanon could spill over and suddenly destabilize Syria, which borders four countries pivotal to U.S. Middle East policy -- Israel, Iraq, Lebanon and Turkey, U.S. and Syrian sources said.
>U.S. officials, however, yesterday denied that the meeting was intended to coordinate efforts to oust Syrian President Bashar Assad's government.
>"That would be a monumental distortion," a senior State Department official said. "But it was a discussion about supporting reform and change in the region and specifically Syria -- and how we can help that and work with people in the region and Syria to support that process."
>Syria in Bush's Cross Hairs
>Tuesday, Dec. 19, 2006
content.time.com
>The Bush Administration has been quietly nurturing individuals and parties opposed to the Syrian government in an effort to undermine the regime of President Bashar Assad. Parts of the scheme are outlined in a classified, two-page document that says that the U.S. already is "supporting regular meetings of internal and diaspora Syrian activists" in Europe. The document bluntly expresses the hope that "these meetings will facilitate a more coherent strategy and plan of actions for all anti-Assad activists."
>U.S. secretly backed Syrian opposition groups, cables released by WikiLeaks show
>April 17, 2011
washingtonpost.com
>The State Department has secretly financed Syrian political opposition groups and related projects, including a satellite TV channel that beams anti-government programming into the country, according to previously undisclosed diplomatic cables.
>The London-based satellite channel, Barada TV, began broadcasting in April 2009 but has ramped up operations to cover the mass protests in Syria as part of a long-standing campaign to overthrow the country’s autocratic leader, Bashar al-Assad. Human rights groups say scores of people have been killed by Assad’s security forces since the demonstrations began March 18; Syria has blamed the violence on “armed gangs.”
>Barada TV is closely affiliated with the Movement for Justice and Development, a London-based network of Syrian exiles. Classified U.S. diplomatic cables show that the State Department has funneled as much as $6 million to the group since 2006 to operate the satellite channel and finance other activities inside Syria. The channel is named after the Barada River, which courses through the heart of Damascus, the Syrian capital.
>The U.S. money for Syrian opposition figures began flowing under President George W. Bush after he effectively froze political ties with Damascus in 2005. The financial backing has continued under President Obama, even as his administration sought to rebuild relations with Assad. In January, the White House posted an ambassador to Damascus for the first time in six years.
All of them except Israel.
>C.I.A. Said to Aid in Steering Arms to Syrian Opposition
>JUNE 21, 2012
nytimes.com
>A small number of C.I.A. officers are operating secretly in southern Turkey, helping allies decide which Syrian opposition fighters across the border will receive arms to fight the Syrian government, according to American officials and Arab intelligence officers.
>The weapons, including automatic rifles, rocket-propelled grenades, ammunition and some antitank weapons, are being funneled mostly across the Turkish border by way of a shadowy network of intermediaries including Syria’s Muslim Brotherhood and paid for by Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar, the officials said.
>The C.I.A. officers have been in southern Turkey for several weeks, in part to help keep weapons out of the hands of fighters allied with Al Qaeda or other terrorist groups, one senior American official said. The Obama administration has said it is not providing arms to the rebels, but it has also acknowledged that Syria’s neighbors would do so.
>Obama authorizes secret support for Syrian rebels
>Wed Aug 1, 2012
reuters.com
>President Barack Obama has signed a secret order authorizing U.S. support for rebels seeking to depose Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and his government, sources familiar with the matter said.
>Obama's order, approved earlier this year and known as an intelligence "finding," broadly permits the CIA and other U.S. agencies to provide support that could help the rebels oust Assad.
Kurdish are the good guys.
Assad is shit, but the alternitaves will be worse
>really bad (worst of the worst)
daesh, al Nusra Front, al-Shabaab and other rebel groups. There's so many and it's hard to keep up with the constant name changes.
>bad (they usually fight the really bad guys, but killing a lot of innocents in the process)
Syria Arab Army/Assad loyalist groups, Free Syrian Army, Russia
>not as bad (they're fighting the really bad guys but still support the bad guys)
Hezbollah, Iran, Shia PMU's.
>neutral (western allies, fighting the really bad guys but still make deals with the bad guys)
Kurds, YPG/YPJ, Syrian Democratic Forces, Arab affiliated tribes associated with the Kurds
>making things worse (self explanatory)
Every Sunni majority gulf state, Turkey & Israel
Credit is where credit is due. You're right.
But there's one major thing to missed to add and it's something that no one talks about
pbs.org
>Starting in 2006, Syria suffered its worst drought in 900 years; it ruined farms, forced as many as 1.5 million rural denizens to crowd into cities alongside Iraqi refugees and decimated the country’s livestock. Water became scarce and food expensive. The suffering and social chaos caused by the drought were important drivers of the initial unrest.
This is definitely a significant factor, at least affecting general unrest in Syria.
the eternal anglo
This is probably written by a Kurd fanboy but it's quite close to reality. The West should count as bad guys / opportunists, hundreds of millions in cash and equipment were given by the West to the worst of the worst fanatics.
Back in 2009 I watched a documentary on Syria hosted by Ian Wright on TLC.
I thought to myself "wow that's a really nice country, I might go there someday".
Fast forward 9 years later. I still can't believe how I, for once thought that it was a nice place to goddamn it's all rubble and shit.
feelsbadman
Putin and his proto-Hitler lapdog. Also the kremlinbots on here for literally DOING IT FOR FREE.
retards like you have such a short memory span and it's pathetic.
>DUDE BUT WHAT ABOUT IRAQ LMAO
I honestly believe you couldn't find Syria on a map.