Decent Tuesday edition
/éire/
James Phillips
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Grayson Foster
>'Ordinary people' would pull down border - Bertie Ahern
>"There never will be a border. There is not going to be a physical border across Ireland because if you tried to put it there you wouldn't have to wait for terrorism to take it down, people would just physically pull it down - the ordinary people."
Chase Cooper
Got 2 hours sleep yesterday boys
David Thompson
Were you just lying awake in bed for hours or were you actually doing something?
What productive things have you done today?
Austin Reed
On the one hand I am insulted for the comparison, but at the same time it is partially true.
Yes, but that doesn't make them poor quality. Like suggesting a book is merely black ink on a piece of parchment.
Jacob Diaz
Gerry looking well today.
Brayden Wilson
I went to bed around 11, fell asleep at like 7am, woke up at 9.
>What productive things have you done today?
Got a book from the library. There's something wrong with the map though.
Nathaniel Jenkins
>There's something wrong with the map though.
What kind of map is this?
What universe does it depict?
>On the one hand I am insulted for the comparison
I wasn't insulting you
> that doesn't make them poor quality
Was not trying to imply that
Charles Barnes
Repeal is 1/4 on
Colton Moore
How can it be a decent Tuesday if it's the anniversary of the Good Friday agreement?
Liam Martinez
>What universe does it depict?
It's fantasy/post apocalypse, haven't started it yet so don't know what caused the apocalypse.
Levi Powell
Do you think he's wrong?
>Bertie front and centre
He's is looking well too. He doesn't appear to have aged much since he stepped down as Taoiseach.
Jason Stewart
Would like to know what caused Wallonia to be renamed Conaught, perhaps because of a certain prinZipal invader from the west?
Ryan Cruz
>anniversary
>hot topic lately
Could today be the day, lads?
Blake Johnson
Apparently there's some huge fundraising effort going on for the Repeal side today because they're strapped for cash. Seems to be going well so far.
Michael Morris
Overate.
Charles Turner
>Scotia
>lowlands
Peaceful settlement desu. Those Walloons kindly donated their homes and voluntarily went to live in Summer camps patrolled by armed guards.
Gavin Bennett
I'm sure you lot will make better neighbours
Benjamin Morales
>Connaught fucks off
>Ireland falls into the sea
What is meant by this
Brandon Williams
>deich
Gabriel Myers
>Do you think he's wrong?
That's not what I was alluding to in that post and I wasn't attempting to mock him or anything.
I'd like to think that if they were putting a border up we'd be there every weekend in our hundreds of thousands with JCBs and tricolours, though I don't believe that is likely.
I support what he is saying there and was actually starting to warm to him, until two minutes later in the interview he went on about how, similar to Leo, it would need to be more than 50% + 1 votes for reunification and we shouldn't be looking at a border poll in the near future. There is some merit to what he is saying, but I still don't like hearing people say it.
>He's is looking well too
Too bad he has the face of a clown.
>How can it be a decent Tuesday if it's the anniversary of the Good Friday agreement?
I didn't get it at first but I believe this was to be some form of joke.
Samuel Ortiz
>Was not trying to imply that
I understand desu, but when I first read it I (wrongly) got the impression you were trying to belittle them or suggest they were very "basic".
Plus you said light novels had light/simple language, I believe, which maybe didn't help.
It's ok though Lux, I forgive you horrible unforgivable mistakes.
Justin Sullivan
>I'd like to think that if they were putting a border up we'd be there every weekend in our hundreds of thousands with JCBs and tricolours
I think you're taking his words too literally.
Brandon Anderson
>Summer camps
Those were the days desu. Did you ever go to any?
Easton Foster
>I think you're taking his words too literally
Are you suggesting the people of Ireland won't rise up against the foreign menace?
If they did it for a sup of water, then surely they'll do it for this?
Andrew Myers
>"Why Arlene Foster is right to consider emigrating if there is a united Ireland"
I like how all of their theories for potential treatment of Protestants in a United Ireland are based on things that happened in the period 1920-50, along with the "ethnic cleansing" conducted by the IRA during the Troubles. Ireland has changed so much in even the last twenty years that I don't know how you could go back that far for valid evidence.
Another article or opinion piece goes on about how a United Ireland could lead to the IRA being legitimised, and how 1916 centenary celebrations showed a support for violence if the impact was large (independence, or reunification).
I could've explained all that better but I couldn't be arsed reading anymore.
Grayson Sullivan
Nein. I didn't like leaving home nor was I fond of having things take up time in my Summer holidays.
Well I did go one once but it was only for a week and I didn't stay overnight so I don't think it counts.
Nolan Martin
>I didn't stay overnight so I don't think it counts
Are Summer camps not local sports camps and such that you go to? Maybe we are thinking of different things?
Benjamin Ward
I suppose, as I said I don't have much experience with camps here so most of my knowledge comes from television and whatnot.
Luke Long
Bertie's on the news after the break.
Christopher White
>I don't have much experience with camps here
Did your local GAA not run any? I went to a rural national school and every year basically everyone in the class would go to the camp for the week.
>image
Is she eating her hair desu?
Connor Smith
>Did your local GAA not run any?
I think I was at one in Junior or Senior Infants, or at least I assume it was one since it was in the middle of Summer. The mother didn't want me going back and I didn't have enough interest to care desu.
>Is she eating her hair desu?
Duce's wig is very tasty.
Colton Torres
/éire/ summer camp when?
Asher Walker
>that first beer of the evening feel
Adrian Adams
#imwithher
youtu.be
William Rogers
How big?
Xavier Sanders
>Ireland has changed so much in even the last twenty years that I don't know how you could go back that far for valid evidence.
You forget that the DUP exist in some sort of time warp where it's still the 1970's.
>/éire/ summer camp
That would be one way to get on the news.
Andrew Jones
These revelations about Bertie funneling money to Dublin GAA during the boom times has made me feel very conflicted about his upcoming presidency.
Brandon Walker
>"Jewish parents used to warn their children to keep a suitcase packed because they argued “you never know when you might have to flee”. The Protestants of Ireland retain that same sense of dread. Things may have changed on the surface but suspicion remains that trouble is never far away. “Brits Out” is the old dog-whistle for “Prods Out”. They haven’t gone away you know"
That's one hell of a persecution complex.
Ryder Phillips
Did not mean to reply to that post.
Jaxon Price
Is the Free Derry house the most recognisable landmark in Ireland? You'd never see the Spire in an anime.
Image editing tutorials interspersed with the adults in charge arguing over their tastes in anime?
That's a happy Graf.
Connor Wright
Had a piece of Kerrygold cheese today
You may thank me for supporting the Irish industry
>That would be one way to get on the news.
>"Troubles erupt in rural Tipperary as communist and fascist youths clash together in a pseudo-war led by their camp overseers"
>You'd never see the Spire in an anime.
Didn't know about its existence before I came here desu
What would you propose as landmark?
Nathan Martin
>"You are now entering free Derry" mural visible
Based Nippon.
Adrian Taylor
>image
She steal from Shiggy?
>revelations
You mean common knowledge?
>Is the Free Derry house the most recognisable landmark in Ireland?
If it is we clearly don't have much in the way of landmarks.
And that's likely a symbol of terrorism for most Irish people.
>Had a piece of Kerrygold cheese today
Was it nice?
Brayden Mitchell
>Was it nice?
Cheddar isn't really my prefered cheese but it was nice as far as those kinds of cheese go
Have you ever had it before?
Jordan Diaz
They say their fears are justified because of that one massacre 300 years ago, while conveniently ignoring all the atrocities their community inflicted upon the natives.
>Kerrygold cheese
I didn't know they made cheese, I only know their butter.
>What would you propose as landmark?
A monument to the brave and noble warriors of Connacht that fell at the hands of Cú "proud Ulster-Scot" Chulainn.
Xavier Turner
>She steal from Shiggy?
Steal what?
>You mean common knowledge?
It was a revelation for me.
>while conveniently ignoring all the atrocities their community inflicted upon the natives.
It's this collective amnesia on the part of loyalists that is one of the most annoying and offensive things about them. Pure arrogance and entitlement.
How are you enjoying 00 by the way?
Aiden Brown
>quote
Believe I read that quote earlier. Newsletter opinion piece?
>I didn't know they made cheese
They make a lot of stuff, I believe.
On a slightly unrelated note, apparently Kerry Group have over 25,000 employees.
>that one massacre 300 years ago
More often they mention the policies of newly independent and conservative Ireland and the "ethnic cleansing" by the IRA, as I mentioned earlier.
>Steal what?
Hair ornament thingy on her chest.
Ian Williams
>Believe I read that quote earlier. Newsletter opinion piece?
Yeah, I googled the headline you posted because you didn't link the article.
>apparently Kerry Group have over 25,000 employees.
Aren't they the biggest private employer in the country?
>Hair ornament thingy on her chest.
Nah, Shiggy's are slightly different.
Isaiah Myers
Who the fuck is donating all this money to the Pro-Repeal campaing? They've raised €250,000 in about 12 hours.
Granted, it won't come close to the funding that the Pro-Life side have, but it's still worrying.
James Barnes
Are your Garda cucked like our police in the U.K?
Cooper James
>you didn't link the article
Sorry, maybe I should've posted them. I was reading so many different ones I was beginning to get a headache and so promptly closed all the tabs after making my post.
>Aren't they the biggest private employer in the country?
I wasn't aware but I guess it is certainly possible. The number is I believe worldwide, but the majority is probably in Ireland.
>Shiggy's are slightly different
Suppose they are. Shall still be taking the kudos for having an incredible eye for detail for noticing.
>it's still worrying
What do they even spent it on? Posters and Facebook advertising?
Would people wouldn't be swayed by either.
Eli Jenkins
*Would hope people
Jace Gutierrez
No. We some corruption issues and rural crime is a serious problem, but at least they're not afraid of taking action where necessary for fear of being called racist.
>What do they even spent it on? Posters and Facebook advertising?
Probably paying people to tear down Pro-Life posters and screech on social media.
>Would people wouldn't be swayed by either.
Yeah, surely there can't be that many people left on the fence at this stage? A few weeks ago, maybe - but we know what legislation will replace the 8th now if it is repealed, so all outstanding questions have been cleared up.
Jaxson Carter
>A monument to the brave and noble warriors of Connacht that fell at the hands of Cú "proud Ulster-Scot" Chulainn.
>be a boy from Sligo
>get hurl'd to death by an ulsterian Israelite named after a dog
>What do they even spent it on?
They commission most precious OC to undermine the anti-abortionists
>Pic
Haven't seen that one in a while
Ryan Johnson
why were you clicking on my post then faggot?
Joseph Lewis
>They commission most precious OC to undermine the anti-abortionists
You going to whore out your talents, Lux?
I was reading there recently that Luxembourg's abortion laws aren't quite as liberal as those of your neighbours? Seems sort of redundant considering hopping over the border would be no trouble at all. Is it just a matter of principle?
It's a mystery.
Samuel Brooks
>How are you enjoying 00 by the way?
It's alright so far but I get the feeling it's the sort of show that gets good when it gets going. I don't like how a lot of the episodes so far have been "thing happens, next 10 minutes cutting to the extended cast reacting and commenting on thing, Gundams go in and do something", it's a lot more dialogue than I feel is usually necessary. Related to that I feel it's given more time to the side characters than it has to the main characters, I'm seven episodes in and enemy army generals have gotten more development time than the Gundam Meisters.
I do like that the politics of the world are a lot more realistic and modern compared to most Gundams when it's mostly about spacenoid independence or whatever. It grew a lot in my eyes when it turned out that what first appeared like the Earth was divided into those unworkable super-empires you often see in fiction turned out to be closer to EU-style arrangements instead. Though they need better flags.
Overall it reminds me of Code Geass more than anything, and in fairness I wasn't into that until after the island arc so as I said above I expect it to improve as time goes on.
Asher Scott
>Related to that I feel it's given more time to the side characters than it has to the main characters, I'm seven episodes in and enemy army generals have gotten more development time than the Gundam Meisters.
You'll come to appreciate that as time goes on. The main cast aren't very interesting for the most part.
>I do like that the politics of the world are a lot more realistic and modern
Yes, this is one of the best things about the series in my opinion. It's portrayal of their EU equivalent in particular is very interesting.
>Overall it reminds me of Code Geass more than anything
It's very Code Geass-y, especially in the at the end of S1 and into S2.
>and in fairness I wasn't into that until after the island arc so as I said above I expect it to improve as time goes on.
If I recall correctly, 00 also has an island episode after which the series gets better. Although that might be in the second season, I'm not quite sure.
Nathaniel Scott
>surely there can't be that many people left on the fence at this stage
>we know what legislation will replace the 8th now if it is repealed, so all outstanding questions have been cleared up
Have most people actually paid much attention to it though and fully decided in their heads?
I know personally I've kind of just disconnected from the whole thing with the view "well I'll pay attention when we're a week or two out from the vote and the TV debates start".
Christian Hill
>You'll come to appreciate that as time goes on
I'd still rather character interactions and exposition delivered in a more natural way. Formulaic episodes tend to be a sign of lazy writing.
>The main cast aren't very interesting for the most part
I was worried that might be case but was hoping I'd be mistaken. At the very least Setsuna has the autism of a true Gundam protagonist.
Also pic related is the ugliest damn mobile suit I've ever seen.
Thomas Brown
>Have most people actually paid much attention to it though and fully decided in their heads?
Good point. In my experience, picking a side in this referendum debate seems to be fueled a lot more by emotion than anything else.
>Formulaic episodes tend to be a sign of lazy writing.
That should change by the mid-season point of S1 if I recall correctly.
>Also pic related is the ugliest damn mobile suit I've ever seen.
With a few character-specific exceptions, all the non-Gundam mobile suits in 00 are awful.
Jordan Perez
>Seems sort of redundant considering hopping over the border would be no trouble at all.
They ware made back in the 70s I believe when it was much more difficult to cross the border like that I suppose, also the G-D makes the laws, and he's very sceptical of euthanasia and abortion and such,the parliament had to take away his veto for a while to be able to pass them
>You going to whore out your talents, Lux?
Never,the corkian furry is against abortion and it would be wrong of me to hurt such a gentle creature
Easton Johnson
Damn I love Italy so much
Cooper Roberts
>also the G-D makes the laws, and he's very sceptical of euthanasia and abortion and such,the parliament had to take away his veto for a while to be able to pass them
Does the G-D just sign off on laws like our President, or does he have more significant powers? Our president can refuse to sign off on new laws, but it rarely happens. And even when it does happen, the president better have a damn good reason for doing so.
>Never,the corkian furry is against abortion and it would be wrong of me to hurt such a gentle creature
Very honourable of you.
Andrew Myers
>corkian
Believe the correct term is Corkconian, something shit like that. Don't feel the need to remember it.
Is that anime good?
Evan Turner
>image
Far too lewd.
Charles Barnes
Very good, mate
Hunter Carter
>That should change by the mid-season point of S1 if I recall correctly
That's good. I kind of understand the reasoning behind the format as they've been trying to keep Celestial Being's motives as much a mystery to the audience as they are to the world in the show but still.
>With a few character-specific exceptions, all the non-Gundam mobile suits in 00 are awful
Oh God damn it. It's bad enough the regular green grunts look like Zakus made out of Lego.
Thanks Serbia.
John Jackson
>Corkconian
"Corkonian" is what a Cork person is called according to Google.
Cameron Hughes
I heard it was only ok.
Benjamin Ortiz
>Does the G-D just sign off on laws like our President
He does have an actual veto to stop certain laws in addition to just not signing them I believe
>or does he have more significant powers?
Of course, he does not use his powers unless it's really necessary but in theory, he can just ignore all forms of democratic elections for ministres, judges and all other government officials because they are all elected in his name, the parliament only "proposes" them,but I believe only during WW1 did he actually make use of this to prevent elections.
Also he is head of the whole executive branch of the government making him head of the army giving him the power to reestablish conscription and all other things related to the military if he so desires
Believe I'm going to stick to "Corkanese" if I may
Kevin Morris
>He does have an actual veto to stop certain laws
On certain grounds or just at his own discretion?
>he can just ignore all forms of democratic elections for ministres, judges and all other government officials because they are all elected in his name
Much like the Queen of England then. Our president has similar powers, but they wouldn't be quite as robust since the the government doesn't operate in his/her name.
>Also he is head of the whole executive branch of the government making him head of the army giving him the power to reestablish conscription and all other things related to the military if he so desires
The President is technically the commander in chief of the Irish armed forces too, which I always considered to be a bit weird.
Angel Jackson
>The President is technically the commander in chief of the Irish armed forces too
Believe the main difference between the two is that the G-D can't be held accountable for his actions and decisions by tribunals and such, which I imagine is not the case for the president?
>On certain grounds or just at his own discretion?
The latter, but he's well aware that the socialists are lurking in the shadows waiting to get rid of him so he won't be upsetting anyone soon
Juan Nelson
>socialists are lurking in the shadows waiting to get rid of him
What are your thoughts on that? Do you like him?
Isaac Davis
>which I imagine is not the case for the president?
Correct. Sounds like the G-D has a pretty cushy gig.
>but he's well aware that the socialists are lurking in the shadows waiting to get rid of him so he won't be upsetting anyone soon
Who is next in the line of succession by the way?
Nolan Foster
>the G-D can't be held accountable for his actions and decisions by tribunals and such, which I imagine is not the case for the president?
Not true, Michael D. has yet to be held accountable for his leading role in the Galags.
Alexander Bailey
What are we all up to?
I like his father and I like his son,I don't particularly like him but I'm aware that "Republic of Luxembourg" sounds pretty boring desu and I can't imagine sending Xavier to visit other heads of state
Guillaume or Wilhelm or whatever you would like to call him version 5.0
Owen Jackson
>I'm aware that "Republic of Luxembourg" sounds pretty boring desu
Isn't the concept of monarchy and nobility a bit outdated in the modern world though? Especially if they have actual power and are exercising it?
Austin Clark
Lads, is there any reason to get an Xbone controller over an Xbox 360 controller for PC gaming?
Luis Gomez
>What are we all up to?
Who said I was up to something?
>"Republic of Luxembourg" sounds pretty boring
What about Poblacht na Dún Solas?
Jackson Taylor
>Especially if they have actual power and are exercising it?
Most don't though, which is sort of the point. They are retained for ceremonial purposes and as a living connection with the history of the state.
Hunter Mitchell
The current XB1 controller is designed to work out of the box on PCs far better than the Xbox 360 one in my experience.
Ryan Thomas
No
They both work out of the box on Windows 10
Aaron James
>Isn't the concept of monarchy and nobility a bit outdated in the modern world though?
Tricky question, one could argue that it's more reasonable to have one person who gets prepared to fill in the role of head of state since his youth instead of some guy who got elected by accident and only wants to make as much money as possible during his time as head of state and then fuck off
Especially if they have actual power and are exercising it?
As long as the Teutons stay on their side of the Moselle there is no reason to actually make use of these powers
>Who said I was up to something?
I did and now tell me what it is
>What about Poblacht na Dún Solas?
Charming but it lacks GRANDness
Bentley Fisher
>Windows 10
Jordan Edwards
>They both work out of the box on Windows 10
Do they? I thought you needed a special adapter for the 360 controller? The XB1 controller does have the added benefit of bluetooth though if your PC is compatible.
Carter Carter
It's plug and play, drivers are automatically installed. The 360 controller is by a long way the most frequently used pc controller.
Wired at least, there may be some other complications for wireless if that's what you mean.
Jose James
>I did and now tell me what it is
NEVER
>Charming but it lacks GRANDness
Poblacht Mór na Dún Solas? I'm not sure what a grand republic would be though.
Wyatt Cruz
>Most don't though, which is sort of the point
You don't have an issue with them then? Would you like us to have one?
Justin Smith
>I'm not sure what a grand republic would be though.
A pretty good one I suppose
>NEVER
So be it
Dylan Ward
>Wired at least, there may be some other complications for wireless if that's what you mean.
Yeah, that's what I was getting at. The XB1 can still connect with a PC via Bluetooth if you don't have a cable or don't want to use one. For the Xbox 360 controller you needed a special adapter.
>You don't have an issue with them then?
Not particularly.
>Would you like us to have one?
No. It wouldn't be appropriate given our history, nor would it be Irish freedom fighters fought for. It's about respecting history after all. Countries with long-established monarchies retain theirs in part because its a recognition of their history and the country's desire to retain a living connection to the past. Countries like Ireland don't have such a history, so establishing a monarchy would be pointless, hollow, and unpopular.
Hudson Richardson
>and the country's desire to retain a living connection to the past
For what purpose? Maybe I'm being somewhat ignorant or perhaps I just can't think of a similar sort of thing here but why would one want to fondly remember an outdated form of government?
I can understanding honouring people and events. Is us remembering 1916 the equivalent for people in other nations retaining and celebrating their monarchy, or do we just not have any similar sort of emotional/memorable event/thing?
>It's about respecting history after all
Any thoughts on all those statues people want torn down in the US?
Jaxson Rodriguez
>It wouldn't be appropriate given our history
It was more of a progressive insult towards the brits for having what the republicans viewed as an archaic model of government. The issue was always foreigners controlling Irish affairs. If the UK was a republic (that would probably require them to change their name) it wouldn't ease nationalist minds in the slightest. I'll remind you that Cromwell was a republican who killed the king of England and most of the time English monarchs were much friendlier to us than the English parliament.
>nor would it be Irish freedom fighters fought for
I believe it was Dev who said that he wouldn't be against a monarchist system of government if that's what the majority of Irish people desired one, and on the condition that no relative of the British royal family would be permitted to take the position. He didn't want one though, his point was more that Ireland's independence takes precedence over how the country works.
>Countries with long-established monarchies retain theirs in part because its a recognition of their history and the country's desire to retain a living connection to the past
We do have the oldest surviving dynasty in Europe, even if they've been off the throne for a few centuries.
Easton Wilson
Do you have to post anime every time you type something?
Dylan Fisher
>For what purpose?
Is it not important to retain a connection with the past? Where you country came from, what it achieved, and the difficulties it overcame.
>But why would one want to fondly remember an outdated form of government?
Governments evolve and become more democratic. Constitutional monarchies retain the elements of the monarchy that work for them because they consider the monarchy to be a core part of their national culture and history.
>Is us remembering 1916 the equivalent for people in other nations retaining and celebrating their monarchy, or do we just not have any similar sort of emotional/memorable event/thing?
Well considering the Queen's birthday is the closest thing the UK has to any sort of independence day celebrations, I'd say yes.
>Any thoughts on all those statues people want torn down in the US?
Similar to the destruction of Nelson's pillar, I understand the reasons behind the desire to remove the statues, but I do consider the screeching to be a bit of an overreaction. It should be at the discretion of each individual community as to what commemorations of the past they erect. If they choose to maintain tasteless statues and such, let them be judged for their actions. But nothing is achieved by forcefully attempting to erase history.
Jackson Sanders
Do you have to complain about anime in every thread?
Xavier Taylor
>it was Dev who said that he wouldn't be against a monarchist system of government
How does one go from founding "the Republican party" to saying they wouldn't mind if there was a monarchy?
>We do have the oldest surviving dynasty in Europe
Who?
Ryan Garcia
>complaining about anime on an anime website
Carter Garcia
>It was more of a progressive insult towards the brits for having what the republicans viewed as an archaic model of government.
While I won't deny that was a factor, by 1918 the people if Ireland wanted a republic regardless of what type of government the Brits had.
>I believe it was Dev who said that he wouldn't be against a monarchist system of government if that's what the majority of Irish people desired one
He (or some other prominent member of the provisional government) went as far as contacting the descendants of the last Irish king I believe, but they turned him down explicitly because they knew that the Irish people wouldn't settle for anything less than a republic.
>How does one go from founding "the Republican party" to saying they wouldn't mind if there was a monarchy?
Dev was a man of many contradictions.