I just leaned the British don't use "gotten" as the perfect form of to get

I just leaned the British don't use "gotten" as the perfect form of to get.

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They also don't have a one word plural for 'you' weird. How are you supposed to determine whether they mean an individual or a group of people?

lots of brits use 'yous' but it depends on their accent of course

we have a plural in the north east

Surprised you can afford plurals up there tbqh

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just jokin' lad, i'm a filthy poortherner too (yorkshire)

you is the plural, they lack the singular word

what is it?

>tosser is a bad word

What even is got?

>I've got a question
>I've a question
Like literally why does that got exist?

>you've got to be joking
>you've to be joking

>Did you get that?
>Did you that?

>I haven't gotten there yet
>I haven't there yet

>you've to be joking
that's a weird contraction
you gotta spell it out

I got a car. Means I obtained a car in the past.

northumbria when
youse

it doesn't make sense haha

Makes sense tbqh

No, you dumbo.
Got isn't the verb "got" in those statements.

>I have a question
>I have got a question

The past participle of "get" is "gotten"
>I've gotten better at math

So again, where does this "got" come from or why is it used?

>I have got something to tell you
>I have something to tell you
No difference.

i think he is confused because "i got a car" could also mean "i have a car" in which case have=got, but that's just one case.

if you have a car it also means that you obtained it in the past. Otherwise, you wouldn't have it.

>I got an A in my exam
>I have to get this job or I'll hang myself

It's singular you gowl. It just conjugates verbs like a plural because it once was plural.

you are trying to make it even more confusing. got may denote the past tense (obtained) or the present tense (have).

If you've got a question it means a question came to you.
The thought came to you and now you want to ask it.

As far as I know "thou" used to be the singular word, but anglos got rid of it because they are so polite that they even refer to dogs as "you".

I am legitimately confused

got means you now obtained something you previously didn't have
have means it's currently in your posession

>you've GOT to try it
has a much nicer rhythm than
>you have to try it
for some reason even though I know "you have got to try it" doesn't really make sense

>88121206 (Thou)
lol

I have =/= I got

Have implies possession.
Get implies obtaining something

This "got" is not being used as the verb "to get"
And even then, the past participle structure of a "I have" sentence uses "gotten"

Again, this is the "I have got" that is exactly the same as "I have", not "I have gotten"

>I have a pencil with me
>I have got a pencil with me
There's no difference. They mean exactly the same thing. It has nothing to do with the verb "to get"

auxiliary verb.

i think it's because
>you have got to try it
is more words than
>you have to try it
so it adds more emphasis

that's not the whole story. my point is got may be used in place of have but not the other way around.

i got that car from the dealer (i obtained it, you can't replace it with have in this case)

i got a car (or i got news or whatever) - can be replaced with have.

What about "You aren't" vs "You're not"

What's so perfect about it. It's like a 5/10 word at best

Ahhh you are talking striclty about "have got" right? Phrasal verbs are fucky like that, this might help english.stackexchange.com/questions/76126/have-got-verb-form-and-tense

We do, if you're taking about real standardised English (and not accents).

Trying to make sense of English is pointless. Just accept that it's a mongrel language with butchered grammar and vocabulary. For every rule, there are dozens of exceptions. If you ever have a question about "why English is x", the answer is usually the Normans.

i take my posts (, and ) back. the more i think about it, the more i am confused. it seems like it's just the fashion.

"you aren't" and "you're not" are identical really

You don't contract have like that when you mean it like you must or like the French "devoir", you only do it when it you mean like the French "avoir". "You've to be joking" sounds weird.

If you use "gotten" you may as well use foughten and helden while you're at it. Same principle.

Sounds like really bad German.

So, dutch?

It clears up the ambiguity between having gotten something in the past and possesive “to have got” something.

Thou is the informal, you the formal. Just like du and sie in German. You became the default due to writing as it was impolite to address informally in letters if you were not writing family. After awhile "thou" just fell out of common use.

sound more posh than Y*nk """"english""""