AMERIFATIA IS DA STRONK

Is this what it was like when Iraq was beginning? Are we going to be looking back at this in a decade when Syria is in the middle of an Islamist civil war and Rand Paul is running for president promising non-interventionism?

>WE'RE GONNA DESTROY UR PLANES, SHIPS, AND MISSILES IF U ATTACK SYRIA
>in reality Russia sits by sucking its thumb while Assad gets pounded

Fucking lmao.

They claimed they shot down 13 missiles. Incidentally, Russia claimed a different figure. Neither provided any evidence to show that even a single missile was intercepted.

Non-interventionist traitors are the reason things have been allowed to get this bad in the first place. We completely lost the initiative in the Middle East thanks to Obama's weak foreign policy.

no one claimed 13 missiles
there were more videos than 13

How do americans retain the notion that they are not the aggressors?

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>all UK missiles were shot down
Nice """military""" you got there

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twitter.com/DavidADaoud/status/984972339728273409

On top of claiming they shot 13 down, they were also trying to claim that none of the targets were hit.

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The 13 number was reported by local Syria media before the 2nd wave of missiles. So during the 2nd wave they probably managed to shot down way more, since they were on full alert by then.

18:51 - 13 apr. 2018

>all UK missiles were shot down
Lol, cucked by old like mammoth shit soviet anti-air.

>So during the 2nd wave they probably managed to shot down way more
They didn't shoot down any.

twitter.com/LucasFoxNews/status/984985693666660352

If Russians had used their S400s they could've shot some down, but they didn't.

>source: my ass

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This obviously bullshit. I personally saw at least a few video of intercepting.

As OP noted
some arabian shithole downed 71 out of 103 coalition missiles
L M F A O why do we still take anglos seriously?

Didn't we jokingly destroy like 30% of their airforce last year?

Dunford made that statement like 10 minutes after the attack, there was no way he could know what really happened, that's why he said that in the morning there would be a full briefing of the attack.

Also UK's attack was reportedly an absolute failure and all storm shadow missiles failed.

this is your mind on coca cola

>traitors
jesus christ you warhawks really drunk the fucking kool-aid huh
Iraq was based off shit that didn't happen too like WMDs and other "atrocities"

71? sauce?
I hear 13 over Damascus.
If there was any positive outcome for the US it would be this. It's not much and it wasn't worth raising the tension so much, though.

Would now be a good time to get the whole gang together and start negotiating for peace, trying to reach a compromise? The US would be "dealing from power" like Trump likes and we would all save face.

>Civilians haven't been dying
>They gassed themselves, we swear

Is this the Bosnian war all over again for fucks sake? They are not gassing themselves. Get your head out of your ass.

They did the exact same thing a year ago (they claimed they intercepted ~30 Tomahawks with fighter jets, not a joke), then backpedalled and pretended they didn't activate any air defences to "avoid escalation". If Russian bullshit were gold they'd be the wealthiest nation on Earth.

>traitors

It's pieces of shit like you who were hooting and hollering for invasion in 2003 that ME is in the mess it is. Thanks for the rapefugees I guess, every single rape victim or van of peace is your fault. Fuck you.

Boomer retard, fuck off war hawk.

We should not invade, but there needs to be a response to violations of chemical rules or blatant genocide.

Some ISIS jihadi scum getting gassed is not my problem.

People who aren't teenage edgelords do.

They do that themselves every time they attempt flight

Well congratulations, you'e a brainlet who doesn't understand precedent or that you may one day be the group the world views as undeserving of defense against such violations of the rules of war.

Most of pics are Syrian (maybe even Russian) long-range AA missiles that failed to hit their targets.

>war goes on for 7 years
>The US launces a couple of missiles years later

Yeah, they totally started it. It

we don't even have proof assad did it
does everyone just seem to ignore this

>unironically proofposting
>in 2018
Back to 2chan, Ivan.

France says they do.
Russia says Syria dindu nuffin.

It's far from certain, but I'd much rather believe France than Russia.

Remember the last time they bombed syria over a gas attack
There's still no evidence the Syrian government had anything to do with it

>all storm shadow missiles failed.

Now we have visual confirmation that the storm shadow missile did in fact fail. This is an embarrassment to the EU.

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wow, imperialist powers make up casus bellis to justify wars
what a surprise
I don't exactly trust Putin and his ilk either but that doesn't mean I'm going to blindly trust the US gubmint and its butt buddies
Also, they didn't even release proof, they just said "we believe they did it"
do none of you even remember the WMD shit? or the attack last year?

This. If it's a free-for-all, mind-your-own-business kind of world without big alliances and superpowers and shit, we'd have land grabs and invasions all the time, like what Russia did with Crimea last time, not what ultra peace-loving fags envision to be a mundane world.

Make no mistake. I wouldn't want any war if possible. A waste of many things. But they're inevitable, at least in this era.

Literally Kremlin boilerplate. It's like you work from a script.

That picture doesn't prove that the missile didn't hit the target.

Parts around the missile engine are designed to tolerate high temperatures and forces and can therefore survive the missile exploding upon hitting the target.

>Well the US says that Spain blew up their ship
>Well the US says that there are WMDs in iraq
>Well the US and their allies say that Assad gassed his people con a city whose scheduled surrender was days away

They didn't. Al-Qaeda WITH HATS™ did.

Go bomb them so we can be done with this mess.

Oh, perpetuating the war was your only goal here? Regime change in which the new regime consists of jihadi terrorists who actually will use chemical weapons? Well done.

>being anti-imperialism makes you a "kremlin agent"
you're pulling my leg, right?
the spaniard gets it
anyone who wants war will make shit up to justify it

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Russia also said the soldiers in Crimea equipped with the most modern Russian equipment were civvies with PKPs bought from the local gun shops and denied any presence in Ukraine.
This might be bullshit, but as I said, I'm much more trusting of France than of Russia.

The whole "everyone lies and the US is just as bad as Russia, remember Iraq" thing is straight from their playbook.
>At the heart of this mind-set is the idea that there is no such thing as objective truth or even facts, because everything is spun or disguised to reflect advantageously on one group or another. “The whole idea of values has been thoroughly debased [in Russia], to the extent that if you talk about Western values you’ll just get a laugh,” says Ben Nimmo, a research fellow at the Atlantic Council. This environment of toxic cynicism allows Putin’s word to be as good as anyone else’s, because according to Moscow’s worldview everyone, including and especially westerners, is a self-righteous hypocrite and a liar. “There is definitely the approach by the Kremlin-funded media that everybody is equally bad; therefore there is no such thing as bad anymore,” Nimmo says.
That isn't to say someone cannot be a principled "anti-imperialist" and hold those positions without being on the Kremlin payroll, but to espouse near-identical views that just happen to align with Russian goals is suspicious in the extreme.

>This might be bullshit
Unless you're operating under the assumption that Assad is both functionally retarded and cartoonishly evil, this is bullshit. You don't risk losing a war you're going to win by gassing a few civilians on a town that is about to surrender
Also
>Russia arming ukranian rebels means that France isn't making shit up to force a war

they specially hired civilians/former militaries and gave them equipment in fact they were civilians

Ah yes, the esteemed military experts of Spain come to weigh in on the efficacy of chemical weapons during prolonged guerilla conflicts. Truly we are blessed by your perspicacity.

Give me a reason why the SAA would risk a foreign intervention instead of waiting a few days for the evacuation of Dhouma to end.

The old Syrian Syrian air defense system could even knock down the jewish F-16. Subsonic non-maneuverable missiles are much easier for them. But your British missiles are not so good, if they were really all intercepted. One has only to imagine what will happen to this against the echeloned air defenses from S-400, S-300VM Buk-M3, and Pantsir.

>oh look it is the same diaspora shill looking for kremlinbots

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Has Russia already destroyed launching sites like they promised?

>do not fuck with retards
Message received.

>The Ukrainians were real in my mind
Grow up.

>One has only to imagine what will happen to this against the echeloned air defenses from S-400, S-300VM Buk-M3, and Pantsir
Yes, "imagine" being the key word. Why didn't you activate S-400 last year? Is it because once again Russia wrote a cheque it couldn't cash out?

Are you incapable of critical thinking at all? You think that just because governments say so that Assad is going to do something that retarded? Against all logic and reason?
He's an asshole dictator, not a cartoonish villain. There's literally no way he could benefit from it.
Is this the new fucking Red Scare? Anyone who's skeptical of imperialism, NATO, and war is some sort of spy, or shill, or some shit? "Yes, be a good little citizen and never question anything or you're a Russian agent!"
It's like a boy-cried-wolf situation. American and NATO pull this shit all the time with the Gulf War, the Iraq War, and the like. We even did the same "chemical attack" shit last year. There's never been any proof for this shit other than "uh, the government said it happened and this group is responsible!" or "witness" testimony.

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He's from the same batch of ME dictators who used to hang people in the streets and whose sons abducted and raped whoever they wanted. He's done much worse.

Are you mad? Powers with nuclear weapons never attack each other, a typical proxy-war.

So you're telling me that, without evidence, intervention is Syria is justified because Assad is "Just that Evil"
He's so evil, that he prioritises killing a few civilians with gas over winning the war, of course! How could I have been so blind!

Honestly glad the Russian government isn't as retarded as ours and the Y*nks in terms of foreign policy.

Fow what? Even if the old Soviet air defense can shoot down the 4th generation aircraft with the pilots with a long hours flying and even more so it can intercept subsonic missiles.

And 0 casualties.

I'm unsure, but I'm slightly more inclined to believe France than Russia, as I said. It might all be bullshit, but it's ok, because I'm not one of the people making decisions about this war.

That's what they were aiming for.
BTW, pretty sure Russia reported a few civilian casualties in some airbase.

The mutts did no damage to anything, why start a war over it?

Says 0 casualties in Belarusian media.

There is no evidence that S-400 can do any of the things it's been claimed to. They (supposedly) moved a system to Hmeymim in 2015, they had a chance to shoot down Tomahawks in 2017 with the strike on the air base. So why didn't they? And what will be your excuse if they haven't done it this time?

You shouldn't be more inclined to believe anyone. France does not have the moral highground, they're as interested in Assad falling and Syria becoming a nice jihadist hellhole for them to get oil out of as Russia is in Assad staying and them having an ally right in the centre of the middle east.

You're right, it says Syria reported three injured civilians, but no deaths.

dw.com/en/us-uk-france-launch-strikes-on-syrian-chemical-weapons-capabilities/a-43384179

All in all, this is pretty pointless. I wonder if it would be possible to start negotiations now.

You can't get oil out of a jihadi shithole, though. Their goal is to either push back the Russian influence or install someone friendly on the government. Which isn't going to happen unless they look for some sort of a compromise with Assad. There's no winning for the rebels now and the Kurds would probably fine with some autonomy by now.

>You can't get oil out of a jihadi shithole
ISIS didn't seem to have trouble selling their oil.

it's not like oppressive islamic regimes have trouble selling oil

>There is no evidence that S-400 can do any of the things it's been claimed to
Argument level: there is no evidence that the F-22 stealth and that he fights well in the Dogfight, he did not shoot down anyone and fly with a lens to increase radar-visibility.

Through some underground black markets.
they're as bad as ISIS, but the difference is they're not publicly yelling "death to America and all of the West".

wut

black markets known as Turkey, a NATO member?

A NATO member who is fighting one of the groups supported by the US and is currently in a diplomatic crisis with most of Europe.

They weren't in 2015.

>jihadi shithole
laughs in Saudi

Also, cruise missiles are not a target for the S-400.
This is target more for Pantsir and Buk-M3.
The S-400 is made to shoot down maneuverable fighters, bombardments, tactical missiles and so on.

Well, imagine?

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yfw America, france and britain are such bros they btfo Russia and even with promises of retribution to defend their civilian massacreing proxy state they don't do shit.... lel. Draft me into a war against russia please it would be a fucking joke

>google " 71 out of 103 your missiles"
>"Russian claims"

ahahahahah fuck off with your russia today bullshit

Except the hit facilities are in ruin. Keep eating Russian dick while your own language dies out due to them, though.

t. American puppet state

Little russia pls.

m8

he's not wrong

Keep sucking American dick while they fill you with blacks. I know your girls like it.

Prove me wrong.

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>Against all logic and reason

Yeah, a mwd attack to enforce a peace treaty and to break the will to fight totally is soooo illogical. Oh wait US did the same to Japan and it worked.