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I've heard its the fastest aircraft carrier on the seas, but only in reverse.

>She is the only carrier in the world outside of the U.S. Navy to use catapults to launch aircraft, and consequently carries conventional CATOBAR-capable jets such as the Dassault Rafale and the E-2C Hawkeye. CdG is also the only nuclear-powered aircraft carrier to serve outside the U.S. Navy.
based france
imagine a country building a DIESEL carrier with RAMPS in this day and age haha

based

French Armed Forces are the second best in the world.

haha no

It's also rife with problems and has spent more time in drydock for repair than at sea ever

Who would be second? They probably are honestly, no one else has as much experience or blue water capabilities

Probably still Russia, despite its many, many problems. France would probably settle into third: China's got more money behind it, but lacks experience, and the UK has way too many capability gaps.

>no ramp
Good in my books

>Probably still Russia
LOL
no way
they have no blue water navy, outdated equipment, and barely any global reach
Syria is their last stand really for a push out of the black sea.

France is a global power, with the UK 3rd

UK is investing heavily in navy and will be the 2nd best when the 2 new carriers and frigates are ready

Airctaft carriers are overrated anyway unless you are an actual global power that needs to be militarily respresented in all parts of the world, and let's be honest there is only one such country currently exists, the others just don't need no carriers at all, waste of money.

>Airctaft carriers are overrated anyway
That was proven wrong in WW2

Yes but nuclear weapons didn't exist back then. Nowadays such weapons are basically just something that guarantees that your country won't be directly invaded. I don't see what is even the point of having aircraft carriers if your country is not the global power, and neither France nor Russia is a global power.

t. cuckhom syndrome

>lose a ship against argentinan france equiped aircraft
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>twice nuked
easy to mock

Aircraft carriers weren't about invasions, they were just straight-up more effective than other ships.

Neither France nor the UK can afford a carrier fleet. The only country after the USA is China

They have a limited blue water navy, sufficient so that they can secure local superiority against most countries.

They may suffer from outdated equipment, but they have a lot of top tier equipment.

They can access Europe, the Middle East, and much of Asia by land. That's quite a bit of global reach.

US aside, there are only a handful of countries that could *maybe* go toe-to-toe with Russia, whether on a global or local scale. The UK, though probably possessing the third or fourth most powerful military on the planet, suffers from a lot of capability gaps.

You still don't have enough planes to fill them.

You need naval power to have an empire.

In terms of power projection and supporting assets, UK ranks above France.

France plans to only support a task group upto 15000. UK plans to support a task group of 50000.
You keep repeating the UK has capability gaps, however I assure you France has a much larger gaps in terms of support full-spectrum.

china can't afford a carrier fleet either

yet

Yea that's right "yet" and not for a little big time either
The only other country who could probably field a full nuclear carrier group is Japan

>Who would be second?
USS Gerald R. Ford had a total cost of 13bn $. It would be (13/50) 25% of France's total military budget.

Right, but what does that prove given there's no evidence France would consider getting a Ford class?

It'd be a great ship if it weren't always undergoing repairs in a drydock.

It's almost Kuznetzov tier minus the smokescreen.

Unfortunately, as much as I'd like to bully France, that's not true. CdG as a carrier has a very busy life style.

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what is the point of having a $ 13bn aircraft carrier if she is vulnerable to a single submarine ?

Kek

you think france is weak?

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>In terms of power projection
With our many troops in Africa, influence on the Middle East, several military bases on every continent thanks to our overseas territories(something that the UK also has), our fleet-basing rights in India and our enormous EEZ(largest in the world), I would say that we are above in power projection. But yes, our supporting assets are inferior because we're not willing to invest more in our military than we already are.

>force projection in the 21st century

how does it feel to be an imperialist shitbag nation?

The USS Gerard Ford and the USS Ronald Reagan are different class ships. The Gerard Ford is the new class thats set to replace the Nimitz.

And the events of the war games happened in 2004, I'm not saying technology has come some ways since then, but technology has come some ways since then.

We have numerous states larger than your tiny "country"
In addition to the fact our country is non contiguous factoring in shit like alaska, hawaii, and puerto rico, we are obligated to defend a ton of other countries. Even if we weren't "imperialist" we'd need power projection.

>no ramp
>nuclear powered
I'd say she's good. Welcome to 1975, France

>than your tiny "country"

Sounds something like an imperialist would say. Come on try it fattie, better people than you mutts have tried to conquer my tiny "country".

I have no want to denigrate the Frence Armed Forces, but they have no strategic airlift, far fewer tactical airlift, fewer logistical ships and amphibious ships.

The UK is in a much better position to provide more power at length.

>completely ignores 99% of the post because he knows he is wrong and it is because of the insular perspective provided by living in an irrelevant tiny country

What's it like living on one of those fuckhuge carriers?

lots of anime and maybe buggery

You get to know your fellow sailors inside and out

>hurr, rebut accusations of cowardice with genocidal weapon attack

>genocidal

His next line will be "At least we have a proper carrier" insisting as if his single carrier wjich is a manlet compared to the several US has got could make a difference in these post-Soviet times.

This was true a decade ago

He then goes off in a tangent about Napoelonic victories while Japan was doing nothing of historical importance or some shit

Cant wait until this country is speaking Chinese

>mfw if it wasnt for "imperialism" and force projection, your frozen shit stain would still be sucking soviet dick to get out of going to the gulag

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your top universities are full of Chinese you average mutt

>bantering yourself
what is wrong with you?

>while Japan was doing nothing of historical importance

that's 90% of your history

He's clearly helping you, just state stuff about your history that coincide with Japan's Edo Period circa 1600-1850s

You mean the times when "my frozen shit stain" made mad bank selling shit to the USSR, built up a welfare state and there was no SJW globalist degeneracy? Fucking imperialism.

Isolationism seems to have worked out better for them than imperialism and colonialism has worked out for Britain tbqh.

>there are shitloads of Chinese people
Oh wow amazing.

>You mean the times when "my frozen shit stain" made mad bank selling shit to the USSR, built up a welfare state and there was no SJW globalist degeneracy? Fucking imperialism.

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>I'm proud that my countrymen are slaves to the state
>I'm proud that my country was the Bitch of the USSR

But we wanted a world where millions of Brown people speak our language and wanting to come to live in our country and actually have that privilege because their grandparents were our subjects, too

What does that carrier even do apart from doing US-led errands?

Makes sure countries in West Africa keep supplying France with uranium

>I'm proud that my countrymen are slaves to the state

go choke on ayn rand book, nothing wrong with being proud and trusting your nation to take care of its citizens. the state is the manifestation of the will of its peoples.

>I'm proud that my country was the Bitch of the USSR

USSR was good business partner and that trade elevated my country to a industrialized nation.

It allows France to protect its own interests individual from the US? France isnt completely cucked by the US unlike Japan prox-posting weeb

>nothing wrong with trusting your nation to take care of its citizens
lmao

My master, I cannot imagine a world where our interests do not coincide. Shall I assume the position?

Multicultural nations maybe are different i guess? Were I a native in Canada I sure as shit wouldn't trust the Canadian nation to look after me.

>colonialism has worked out for Britain tbqh.

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>the governments of monocultural nations should be trusted and assumed to have the population's best interests at heart
Read a history book lol. Better yet, take a look at a map.

>>the governments of monocultural nations should be trusted and assumed to have the population's best interests at heart
yes?

I trust my nation, shame that you can't but maybe Canada is a shithole I dunno??

canada is a lovely country

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>genocidal weapon attack
The only time your army was revelant in the world's entire history was when you genocided chineses civilians by the thousands and the US had to drop 2 nukes so you would stop throwing your paperplanes at them.

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