>Russians are completely OK with this
Russians are completely OK with this
Of course they are, he reported something they didn't like.
They should be used to it by now.
>guy falls
>intards think it's a concpiracy
"Falls"
There sure are a lot of Russians "falling" these days. Usually after doing something the Russian state doesn't like. I'm sure it's just a coincidence. It's not like Russia would ever assassinate its own people for political reasons.
Russians have to pretend they're okay with everything if they don't want to disappear
>millions of people post to blogs
>one of them allegedly gets injured
>BOMB RUSSIA NOW
*pats head*
UK is a totalitarian hellhole. Fight for your own country.
You're supposed to alternate your proxy Ivan. Stop making mistakes or it's the gulag for you.
Russia isn't a rouge state like UK, who uses chemical weapons against it's people
>A friend of Max Borodin, Vyacheslav Bashkov, has written about how on April 11 at 5 am Max called him because there were people in camouflage and masks on his staircase and a man with a gun on his balcony. On April 12 Max was found unconscious, and he died this morning.
Do people really believe this?
>a lot of Russians "falling"
Like who?
You're just full of shit
>no source
Ok faggot
You can see the number of posters in the thread dumb faggot.
Bet you're ukrainian or some shit
no russian comment, made me think
its a joke, friendo
Stop making chemical weapons and blame Russia for it.
Help yourself :^)
I dont speak Russian Ivan
Here's the source: bbc.co.uk
Now you'll inevitably say "BBC is not real news" or some equivalent shit.
How long until he falls out of a window?
He further describes in this post how rudely and harshly he was treated by authorities following this incident. Seems as though they were trying to intimidate him, if he keeps his mouth shut I bet he will be fine but yeah. They've killed over less
Dumb fuck leaf
Not supporting this, obviously, but do you think that this anti-government journalism inevitably leads to Guardian-tier stuff?
Can journalists maintain a level of reasonableness in opposing the establishment, or do they always have to find something to whine about to the point of lunacy?
>had contacted him at five o'clock in the morning on 11 April
>found dead on the 12th
Pretty fucking stupid. "Camouflaged men" means there were cops at his house a day earlier with a search warrant. Which is why he was looking for a lawyer.
You do realize how vague the picture theyre trying to paint in that article is right? Theyre intentionally omitting and suggesting shit without saying it directly, hoping you'll fill the gaps with their narrative but without any factual liability to them. That's why the BBC is shit.
Get fucked hohol
From my knowledge of Russia more probable buthert functionaries of the mercenary organization or a state agency that deals with them had him killed for fucking with them and not actually the Kremlin.
Putin's Russia is more like South America than like Stalin's USSR.
But let me tell you Russian opposition and Journalists are the real people with balls. Unlike fucking western SJW's that play in make belief oppression.
What fucking leap of logic do you have to take to think that he jumped out of a fucking window for no reason at all
>means there were cops at his house a day earlier with a search warrant
Which could easily be some kind of excuse when the questions are raised instead of him simply showing up dead "inexplicably"
In the image of his friends Facebook post he describes maxim believing they wanted to search his place, likely due to his journalism. Maxim informed his friend later this morning that they left without incident claiming it was training. He was dead within 24 hours and his friend being questioned.
Only real thing I can see happening other than politically motivated murder is Putin's goons scared this guy so bad he decided to kill himself instead suffer the fate of whatever would happen to him. Maybe the guys talked with maxim and threatened him and coerced him into some kind of agreement and he called his friend downplaying the situation in order to comply before regretting this and killing himself? I am not sure it is hard to spin this into something that doesn't look like murder other than "whoopsie daisy this journalist without putins favor accidentally fell off the very same balcony a gun wielding russian man appeared without warning less than 24 hours later!"
Who said he jumped?
Accidents happen
So it was a search then. That's all we know.
So this is the Russian shill then, nice pretending not to be capable of reading the Russian post
>So it was a search then. That's all we know
Can you read dumb fuck leaf. They themselves claimed it was not a search. If it was a search why did they deny it and why did they not search?
Also no we know other things. We know this man investigated things Putin may not have liked. And we have his friends words and while you can doubt the credibility of what he says I struggle to see any reason for him to do this otherwise. I also find it stupidly coincidental that within a 24 hour span russian goon is on balcony, maxim calls his friend terrified, maxim falls to his death from same balcony.
:^) those silly accidents
>Putin pushes people he doesn't like from their windows
How many other Russians can you name who fell off a building
>Accidents happen
Not as regularly as you seem to think
It wouldn't surprise me if he starts trying to make things look more accidental. It would be in his best interests. Given everything surrounding this it seems more likely than not an accident. Especially when his friend described the authorities trying to intimidate him when he spoke with them
Also
>regional authorities said the door of his flat had been locked from the inside, indicating that no-one else had either entered or left the flat.
But story goes he fell from this balcony? We already know the ""security men"" were able to get on this balcony. What does it matter if the flat was locked?
Seems more likely to *not be an accident
My apologies
Nikolai Gorokhov and Scot Young. Google them.
>russians
"investigative journalism" is a propaganda tool of the western elite; that guy was on the CIA payroll
Vatniks will ignore this post.
So agree the Russians killed him then?
Yeah I don't think much of conspiracy theories
Definitely. All I'm saying is that these "investigative journalists" are always very keen to look into the corruption of those who oppose the western elite, but they never look into the corruption of the western elite. If they try, they get killed just like this guy.
There are 150 million people in Russia. Why is it strange if one of them happens to fall through a window? Plus, it's a journalist, we all know how dumb-dumb journalists can be.
Where is footage of these mysterious men? And if they came for him, he would be dead the same day, not the day after.
And yet you imply the UK is the evil force behind every bad event using chemical weapons. Interesting...
Why would the bother with the corruption of Western elite if they live in Russland?
Why are guys like Snowden and Assange still alive? Why are so many people coming out and stirring shit in this trump shitshow still alive?
I get what you are saying but it is hard to equivocate most western countries and their reactions to things like this with the way Russia has been doing it under Putin's regime
Do you remember that time where whole poland goverment was wiped out?
smolenskcrash.eu
Nah, me neither. They fell out the window.
Why are we concerning ourselves with corruption in Russia if we live in the west?
No I didn't
They tried really hard to get them both. Also both of them knew not to reveal too much. They revealed scandals about the government, but they did not reveal scandals against specific individuals. They were very careful not to anger any specific western plutocrat. That would have been much worst for them.
>abhorrent leaf post
>courtesy of Zhang Sergei Ivanovich
>Why are guys like Snowden and Assange still alive?
Because USA didnt manage to get them. If it did, they would dissapear just like manning
>Why are so many people coming out and stirring shit in this trump shitshow still alive?
Because Trump goes against the Establishment
putinbot
>Why are guys like Snowden and Assange still alive?
Because they fled the country. Why else would they be stuck in the Ecuadorian embassy / Russia?
actually they're not, I bet a lot of them don't even like to think how completely tyrannical their polity is, don't confuse the everyday people you meet on the street who have the same dreams and aspirations as you, with the rulers.
Because we are an international Community with people from many countries, including russia
>why would journalists be concerned when other journalists die under questionable circumstances
>why would the uk report on this issue following recent alleged Russian assassination on their own soil
Unsolvable mysteries it seems
>dozens or possibly hundreds of Russians died, depending on who you ask
>whining
The fact that we don’t even know the real number should answer your question by itself. That’s possibly hundreds of ruined families, hundreds of families who are now short one brother, father, son, husband. That ALWAYS matters.
>They tried really hard to get them both
To take them to court, that is. Not kill them. That's the fundamental difference.
Of course, we still like killing journalists. It's our democratic safari.
First step: Putin killing journalistic bitch.
Second step: telling it's not him and get new sanctions.
Easy, bro!
how about you investigate you own journalists's murders first? you focus on russia so much in order to distract from your own problems. and whenever some random russian dude dies you immediately make a putin conspiracy out of it even when there's no evidence to back that up
The point is that you need to be aware of the propaganda game. It's not as simple as
>Russia bad, we good, m'kay!
They killed Hastings, though.
>using British “””””journalism”””” as proof of repression
>implying it can even be called free press when hurting feeling can literally get you jailed
Britain is the one example of a free press going too far and needing to be taken out behind the woodshed and shot. Every other country does a fine job though, so it is a necessary check on the power of the state.
america never lies! we would never make propaganda against their enemies! no no! stop questioning our conspiracy theories you putin bot!
Difference is these committed "crimes" they wouldn't be shoved off a balcony. If we really wanted Snowden dead it could have been fine effortlessly and you all know this. Same goes for Assange. I regretted picking those two examples as soon as I said it given the rationalizations that would follow but it does not detract from the point. You can commit treason and not die, you can voice your very hostile opinions and attempt to expose our president and hardly suffer (well a few people got fired i suppose.) In Russia you die really often for much less. Western countries are most certainly getting rid of loose ends i am not naive to this but, again, you cannot seriously try to equivocate the west on this issue with Russia under putin.
serial suicider strikes again
You think Russia is weak?
None of this has to do with America you retarded kraut. None of the sources in this thread are tied to American in any way. How butthurt do you get over America for no reason? I repeatedly said western countries are guilty of similar things. Question this article and retards like you come out of the woodwork spouting America is evil and russia dindu nuffin for absolutely no reason relevant to this discussion
And there are plenty of threads calling out USA on their bullshit. We should be allowed to have a thread discussing corruption in Russia, as well
Of course you could kill Snowden or Assange, but killing a person who is under the protection of another country would have diplomatic consequences, and the two are not as important as it would be worth the consequences.
Also, the difference between USA and Russia is that Putin is really the one who is in charge. Meanwhile in America, presidents don't remain long enough on their position to consolidate power, leading to deep state having the real power.
Do you have any evidence of murder or are you just going to respond with "lol where's urs"?
Because there's a clear distinction between dying in an automobile crash and getting poisoned with fucking cyanide
>Of course you could kill Snowden or Assange, but killing a person who is under the protection of another country would have diplomatic consequences
No shit so you get my point... what are you even trying to argue?
>I get what you are saying but it is hard to equivocate most western countries and their reactions to things like this with the way Russia has been doing it under Putin's regime
Is literally what i said
My point is that if Snowden stayed in USA, he would be in a little dark cell right now.
Also, I don't think it is really fair that you measure Russia and USA by the same standard. Russia is a poor third world country that views itself under existential threat from the strongest military in the world.
Meanwhile, USA is the richest and strongest country who considers itself a democratic role model. It should hold itself to a higher standard
I didn't say this particular guy was whining.
>That ALWAYS matters.
>ALWAYS
Utter soy.
Britain is just the worst example and the one English speakers are most exposed to.
The argument precipitated from the dutch poster equivocating the west to russia in situations like these, you can follow the trail upwards if you care enough. I agree with most of what you say but whether or not it is fair to compare russia to the us, uk, germany, france etc is different from equivocating the two approaches to political opposition
>it's OK that Russia is a corrupt shithole because it would be unfair to compare it to the west
I think most westerners believe that Putin personally orders the assassination of those journalists. While in reality, it is more likely that he stepped on the toes of some local people with influence and got killed.
So the killing of political opposition is not a deliberate approach, it is just something that happens because of high level of corruption and limited influence of central government
were the years between the abolition of serfdom and communism the only free period in Russia?
>there's a clear distinction between dying in an automobile crash and getting poisoned with fucking cyanide
what????? do y0ou think a car accident can't be staged????
I know the majority of this board are underage and morons but how would you make Russian into non corrupt country with democratic values?
get a wealthy middle class
I'm sure all these critics and opposition members are just dying in freak accidents, just like how all the names Saddam called out suddenly had to go to the bathroom
Keked from the burger, who translated:
>the police was rude, behaving like "fuck off". They asked why didnt i call the police when he called, it could save his live. I understood they were trying to stir me up, so i demanded to speak only about the case and not speculate.
into
>HE WUZ INTIMIDATED
Crystall clear western media coverage, like always.
Seems like almighty Putin strikes again. Thats his goons that make the last drop to stay at the tip of your pee-pee, remember.
Waiting for claims in press that it was a Novichok poisoned window knob. Such vile intent - the spring came only like a couple days before, its warm, people open the windows more often. INHUMAN.
>non corrupt country with democratic values
Russia is less corrupt than most NATO states
Russia's leader is directly elected. Not so in Canada, Germany, US, probably UK, etc.
Russia is doing fine. Its the constant economic warfare that makes them poor.
An American journalist investigated the secret activities of the CIA and published an article about it.
What would happen to him in America?
>buttmad diasporoids made another circle-jerk thread again
get a life homobots
Awful lot of dead journalists and these are just those actually killed or who died in incredibly suspicious events.
en.m.wikipedia.org
>Why are guys like Snowden and Assange still alive?
>Because USA didnt manage to get them. If it did, they would dissapear just like manning
>Because USA didnt manage to get them.
If we could get Bin Laden we could get them.
>they would dissapear just like manning
Yes, running for Congress must be the same as dissapearing.
baltimoresun.com
bigger private sector, increase the number of people who don't depend from the state.
it's a global endeavour, it can't be confined within one country because of the major connections.
There are big networks operating within and outside of the law as you can imagine and going against them would be like setting up a person who hasn't skated before against Evgeni Malkin, or, to be more precise, make an all-star team of the rest of the world go against an all-star team of both the NHL and the KHL.
It has to come from Putin. He has the power to end the corruption in Russia. So it won't happen.
you could get them, but killing somebody under the protection of another country would cause a diplomatic crisis. Since they already leaked their information, CIA decided that killing them isn't worth it
>Putin is an all-powerful entity who has total control over Russia
Why are Westerners so naive?
Yeah, he just slipped and fell. Or maybe he realized that Putin is an awesome guy and ridden with guilt on besmirching His Name jumped out of the window.
Completely legit.
Never even heard about him really
Russia unironically gassed an entire theatre full of hostages with nerve gas and called it a successful operation.
I still remember as the hostage situation was going on, western media was painting a sympathic picture of the poor Chechens terrorists, who were opressed by Russia
How would he do it? He's in too deep. Let's say he starts going after those oligarchs who fund him (and who basically have the whole country by the balls), what do you think we happen? He'll be out as quickly as he came.