Does Mexico or the US have more Amerindian influence? The US has plenty of native reservations, plenty of places have native influenced names (Illinois, Kansas, etc.)
Does Mexico or the US have more Amerindian influence? The US has plenty of native reservations...
Matthew Garcia
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Cameron Walker
The U.S. is only 1% Amerindian, Mexico is like 15-30% Amerindian
Asher Williams
But most of that "Amerindian" is like 90% Spanish blood while most Natives here are purely native
Kevin Long
like 10% actually
80% is mestizo wich can mean anything from 99 to 1 percent native tho
no you retard, actual natives, as in having a native language as their mother tongue and living in native communities, not your im 1/36 cherokee faggots
and yes Mexico does have more native influence than the US, kind of dumbass question is that?
Camden Gomez
>But most of that "Amerindian" is like 90%
That's false but you are right that U.S. Amerindians are more Amerindians than the Mexican ones
James Reed
our Amerindians are just as Amerindian
you are talking about predominently Amerindian mestizos, but those are two different things
Jaxson Nelson
to set things straight
a predominently amerindian Mexican citizen that only speaks spanish and dosent follow native traditions is not an Amerindian, just a run of the mill mestizo, no different to a predominenlty european mestizo wich has about the same culture and are both mixed
A Mexcian citizen wich his
first tongue is nahuatl/otomi/mayan/huichol and is born within a native communitie and still practicing native traditions IS an amerindian, this particular group of Mexican has a population of about 14,000,000 a little bit more than 10% of Mexicans
there is some overlap, a dude wich knows some nahuatl from his grandma or something but its not his first tongue, this dude is not a native, just a mestizo with more recent indian background.
Chase Campbell
>yes Mexico does have more native influence than the US, kind of dumbass question is that?
How? Where are the reservations? Where are the native foods?
Austin Thomas
>How? Where are the reservations? Where are the native foods
do you wear a safety helmet? if not you should, but ill humor you.
we do not have concetration camos/tax heavens as you do, we do have sistema de usos y costu,bres wich is a form of self goverment recognized in the second article of the Mexican constitution, currently there are over 200 municipalities under this system.
Amerindian Food is the base of Mexican food, Pozole for example was a ritual stew made out of corn wich is sill consumed today (some say the original recipe was done with human flesh), shit look at how much mexican food is made out of corn, plus the fact that many foods name have names originally from nahuatl such as chocolate.
other than that, the very very VERY obvious fact that mexican people have a much greater native admixture than americans, and our number of Amerindians is larger than americas both in total numbers and as per centage of the population, or the Fact that Mexico itself is a word of amerindian origin
Samuel Diaz
How can the U.S. be more Amerindian when they all speak English?
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Aaron Walker
Americans wear Indian culture the way a serial killer wears the skin of his victim.
Jonathan Lewis
No no no no no no and no.
Amerindians from Mexico have NO visible European features, you'd know this had you been outside of the shithole known as new engl*Nd
Carson Cook
Not really.
Austin Cook
Accurate.
Carter Ramirez
10% are tribal Amerindians, the real number of Amerindians (peoples of predominantly Amerindian ancestry) is much higher. Regardless of their culture, they are Amerindian.A Biaka Pygmy brought up in China not speaking a word of the language of his parents is still a Biaka Pygmy, not Chinese. He's culturally Chinese but not genetically Chinese, same thing applies to "detribalized" Amerindians or Hispanic Amerindians or Indo-mestizos or however you want to call yourselves... what's really tragic is many of you have already lost your specific native culture forever so you have to deny being Amerindian. At least, that's my reading of the situation as an outsider.
I remember reading something different but can't find it now, so I'll take your word for it.
>a predominently amerindian Mexican citizen that only speaks spanish and dosent follow native traditions is not an Amerindian
>a predominantly-Zulu Japanese citizen that only speaks Japanese and doesnt follow Zulu traditions is not Zulu
See where that logic leads you?
From wiki:
>Nowadays though, particularly in Latin America, Mestizo has become more of a cultural term, with culturally mainstream Latin Americans regarded or termed as Mestizos regardless of their actual ancestry, and with the term "Indian" being reserved exclusively for people who have maintained a separate indigenous ethnic identity, language, tribal affiliation, etc.
This is retarded.
>A Mexcian citizen wich his first tongue is nahuatl/otomi/mayan/huichol and is born within a native communitie and still practicing native traditions IS an amerindian, this particular group of Mexican has a population of about 14,000,000 a little bit more than 10% of Mexicans
Why are only tribal Amerindians, Amerindian? If a couple of tribal Amerindians leave for the U.S. and bring their children up in mainstream degenerate American culture, do they stop being Amerindian? Are they not Amerindians who are culturally American?
Charles Lewis
Most of Mexican culture has more in common with non-Amerindian culture than it does with Amerindian culture, unlike US Amerindians.
Luke Sanchez
U.S. Native culture is getting drunk, eating frybread, and driving a truck
Ethan Evans
Mexico still has people who don't speak Spanish. I doubt there's even one person in this country who is monolingual and doesn't know a Euro colonial language. I could be wrong as every so often there's another small family band that comes out of the trees and says they don't want to hide out any longer, but even they probably already learned the surrounding language.
>this flag
Jace Price
see we are not Japan, we are not a racially homogenous country where national and individual identity is 100% related to blood, the cultural dimension is more important.
im part amerindian, part spanish, part french and part african, fuck am i supposed to be?, i dont follow no indian, spanish, french or african traditions, my first language is spanish, my whole identity is just regular ol Mexicano, im just a mestizo
Brody Murphy
People with native ancestry in the US identify with being native.
People with native ancestry in Mexico identify with being Mestizo and don't identify at all with the natives
See the difference?
Connor Russell
how is being pasty white guy named steve with a great great great great great amerindian gandma that was raped by an english man and claiming being a native over a stupidly low amount of blood and no actual cultural heritage being more native?
Eli Roberts
>what's really tragic is many of you have already lost your specific native culture forever so you have to deny being Amerindian. At least, that's my reading of the situation as an outsider.
its not like deny it, mestizo identity is already to be implied with a native element, Juan wont tell you he is no dirty injun and he is of 100% iberian stock, nor he will be ashamed of native blood, is just that its not his culture
Jonathan Roberts
Because unlike the average Mexican Mestizo, ""Steve"" knows what tribe he belongs to.
Michael Murphy
Are you fucking retarded?
oh wait the flag checks out desu
Daniel Mitchell
we are not racial autists like you, who cares what exact amerindian (and for that case also european) nation your ancestor come from.
steve is still a pale faced, english speaking, bland food eating white guy, his native """"heritage"""" is just used as an accesory, no more than a conversation piece, it dosent get more white and colonialist than that
Hudson Lee
>""Steve"" knows what tribe he belongs to.
Is this a joke?
Chase Gutierrez
My name is "Grandpa slaughtering the foreign white man" you disgusting wh*te fuck.
Xavier Lewis
How many people have you met saying "I'm part Cherokee" or "I'm part Choctaw" or "I'm part navajo"
Every Mexican just says "I'm Mexican" or "I'm Spanish/French/Italian/etc"
Wyatt Powell
>or "I'm Spanish/French/Italian/etc"
no we dont say that
Adam Murphy
Claiming they are doesn't mean that they actually know. You'd have to be naive to actually believe those claims, or be one of those people yourself. It's not even larping, just attention whoring on a heritage they have no clue about.
Brayden Young
ITT:Amerimutt baiting some dumb mexicans
Dominic Wilson
Whats precisely what makes the US have less native influence. The US way of dealing with natives was driving them off the land/killing them, instead of incorporating them. That's why Indians on reservations don't experience the "American experience" nor do they have any real impact on US culture for the most part.
On the other hand, the Spaniards tended to fuck indios, use them as slaves, etc... Mexican natives were far more incorporated into contemporary culture than their US counterparts, and in turn contributed far more to Mexican contemporary culture.
TL;DR: For the most part, Mexican natives were not isolated from contemporary society. US natives were mostly isolated from contemporary society. Therefore, relatively more US natives maintaining tradition actually indicates how little the US is influenced by them.
Luke Cooper
How exactly does this map define "cultural area"? Because Iroquoians and Hurons were very different cultures. Completely different languages families, matrilinear vs. patrilinear cultures, semi-sedentary (i.e some agriculture and actual settlements with longhouses) vs. nomadic (i.e. no agriculture and no structures more sophisticated than tipis), and so on.
The only similarity seems to be at a geographical level.
Joshua Ramirez
in a nutshell/tl;dr: the housing system
>subarctic
Wigwams, bark tipis
>woodland
Longhouses
>plains
tipis
>arctic
Igloos
>west coast
Plank bighouses
Obviously its alot more intricate than that, but contrast the west coast BC natives with plains indians.
>talking to to a lakota
“Oh hey, you hunt whates and build totem poles?”
>talking with a westcoaster
“hey, where are your tipis and buffalo skins?”
Big of an overexaggeration, but it gets the point across