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Fuck Tuesday edition. Wake up you lazy cunts.

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If you're a person working in reception and you get a call from a person who is being well mannered and nice you shouldn't be a condescending prick to them just because you hate your life reminder.

Excellent post. I always do my best to be polite to anybody I'm talking to, either in person or on the phone. There's nothing to be gained by being a cunt.

>want to escape the Hell of /v/
>decide make a plebbit account again and try using that
>see something retarded
>point out politely that it's bad
>downvoted to Hell and retards spewing shit at me
I can't believe this has happened in two completely unrelated subs about completely unrelated topics both of the times that I've tried to go back to that shitty website on two completely different accounts. Redditors really are fucking retards. I'll never go back there again.

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I agree as well. Too many surface level scum think they're entitled to be hostile.

>point out politely that it's bad
Post the quote. Telling someone their viewpoint is "bad" without engaging in a discussion is shitposting and not polite at all.

>Post the quote
I'd prefer not to even go back to that shithole to even look at it, desu. It was basically me pointing out that creating emulators for current-gen consoles is immoral as it would lead to a shitload of piracy, and everyone who responded claiming that it's a good thing.

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Depends on the tone of the thread I suppose. I guess you were talking about the Switch emulator and they were arguing in favour of game preservation?

C'mon, Reddit is notorious for the hivemind. Someone on /sp/ posted a link to the NFl page after the Patriots beat the Jaguars and all the posts with upvotes were stuff like "Good game, man, shame there could only be one winner" and other posts that seemed like no human would have typed them. Any post with the usual sporting banter was downvoted. It's eerie.

Anyone use a level 5 QQI to find work or are level 5 courses a waste of time?

That seems a good idea, Computer Science courses generally have one of the highest dropout rates since so many don't take to it. What sort of IT course are you thinking of doing?

>which they seemed to struggle to explain the cause of as well.
What do you mean?

>Yes, but each comment is read and treated on it's merit
That's an incredibly naive and inaccurate assessment of how voting works on reddit.

>And besides, is downvoting and hiding something really any worse than things like bait images, "go back to X", "ignore the shitposter" type responses which are effectively just different means of trying to discredit a message for other readers and are quite common here.
If you're downvoted on reddit, by default your comment gets pushed to the bottom of the page making it less likely to be seen. Chronological order is the fairest means of sorting comments/posts. No matter how much you get harassed for a post on Jow Forums, you post does not get less visible (if anything it becomes more visible due to all the (you)s).

Tired.

What's the best energy drink on the market these days, lads? Red Bull has always been my go-to choice when I need an energy boost. I don't drink it often, but it does the job when necessary.

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They were unsure where the nerve agent was applied, refused to allow the Russians to investigate the evidence and the victims recovered which is unusual for a supposed assassination attempt supposedly from government agents.
The UK rushed very quickly to dramatic and extreme action over a case that seemed to have a lot of uncertainty around it.

>That's an incredibly naive and inaccurate assessment of how voting works on reddit.
It's perfectly accurate for the first bunch of readers. They have to read your comment before they can form an opinion on you since viewing your profile is a separate click. Their verdict on the quality of post then influences everybody else.
Every comment you makes starts again on a clean slate

I suppose it's your best choice, they are all the same in the end
Hardly ever drink energy drinks though

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>They were unsure where the nerve agent was applied
The British authorities are claiming that it was delivered in liquid form today. They initially thought it was delivered in powder form, but that appears to have been residue from the initial contact.

>refused to allow the Russians to investigate the evidence and the victims recovered which is unusual for a supposed assassination attempt supposedly from government agents.
Why should the British government allow a foreign power conduct an investigation into domestic assassination attempt? Especially when that foreign power is the prime suspect.

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>It's perfectly accurate for the first bunch of readers
Only a small number of initial readers is required to get voting trends going.

>They have to read your comment before they can form an opinion on you since viewing your profile is a separate click
>Every comment you makes starts again on a clean slate
Browsing somebody's posting history is a very common tactic among reddit users to discredit a comment that they disagree with. This is why I contend that reddit isn't truly anonymous like Jow Forums. Apart from everything else (and I have many other issues with reddit), that lack of anonymity is the single most influential reason as to why I would never participate on reddit.

>Only a small number of initial readers is required to get voting trends going.
That's what I said and there's no reason to believe they wouldn't be representative or vote in good faith unless it's on some agenda driven topic like politics.

>This is why I contend that reddit isn't truly anonymous like Jow Forums.
Is it truly anonymous? Your country is shown on some boards, generals are full of identifiable regulars and images can be backsearched. Not to mention mods and janitors who can see your IP information and commonly share that through IRC.

Feeling optimistic today.

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Just thought I'd come back from America and culturally enrich my ancestors' thread.

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>It's perfectly accurate for the first bunch of readers.
And? No poster here is less likely to view a post because others disliked it, whether they enter a thread early or late. As the other user said, plenty of (you)'s make it even more visible.

>Every comment you makes starts again on a clean slate
No, because other posters check your other posts to see if you're part of the hivemind or not.

>That's what I said and there's no reason to believe they wouldn't be representative or vote in good faith unless it's on some agenda driven topic like politics.
There's every reason to believe they wouldn't act in good faith, seeing as they don't. In any case, the only good faith reason to downvote something would be vulgarity or libel or something. Anythnig else is just downvoting it because you disagree, leading to a hivemind.

Honestly, what is the reason for the upvoting/downvoting system other than to marginalise people who aren't part of the clique?

How's it going boneless Canada?

all eyez on me

>leaves are bones

Canada has a bone on its flag?

>the only good faith reason to downvote something would be vulgarity or libel or something
Or if something was factually incorrect. Last time I checked, the reddit rules state that only posts that don't contribute to the subreddit/discussion should be downvoted.

>it's on some agenda driven topic like politics.
Politics pervades almost everything on reddit (especially in the Trump era). Sure, the same can be said of Jow Forums, but not to the same extent.

Do you really think the system on reddit is conducive to a multi-sided discussion?

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Not at all. I'm not the user you were replying to. I was just clarifying what the official reddit stance on voting is. Of course, almost everybody on reddit ignores this and just uses the voting system as a Like/Dislike tool, which is why the site is so infamous for its hiveminds.

Does anybody here contribute to a private pension?

I'd be surprised if anyone hear has a real job, desu.

*here

>the same can be said of Jow Forums, but not to the same extent.
Ah now, Jow Forums has infested every corner at this stage.

Not really, only on the popular boards when the mods aren't giving a shit.

The Garda couldn't find it ass with both hands.

>No poster here is less likely to view a post because others disliked it
Disagree. Nobody would post "remember not to reply to bait/brits/shitposts" if they felt it wouldn't influence others.

>other posters check your other posts
Nobody would do that unless they had some sort of suspicion towards you based on your comment.

>Nobody would do that unless they had some sort of suspicion towards you based on your comment.
Some people do it just to discredit you in an argument.

I don't understand why you're defending it so much

>Nobody would post "remember not to reply to bait/brits/shitposts" if they felt it wouldn't influence others.
They're just trying to insult them, not censor them. You're taking flag banter way too seriously.

>Nobody would do that unless they had some sort of suspicion towards you based on your comment.
Ah, yes, the impartial philosophers of reddit are really invested in hearing all sides and definitely wouldn't downvote someone they disagree with.

>what is the reason for the upvoting/downvoting system other than to marginalise people who aren't part of the clique?
It's a huge forum with threads that often have hundreds or even thousands of comments. Nobody is going to read them all so a voting system helps to form a shortlist the community consider the most representative. News sites with articles you can comment on mostly use the same system since most people only want to read 4 or 5 comments representative of the community and not all of them. It's more about convenience than anything.

>to form a shortlist the community consider the most representative.
You're denying it's a hivemind by explaining how it's a hivemind.

It's more than that since greentexting "responding to bait" is common as well for scolding those who respond to someone branded to be ignored.

>I don't understand why you're defending it so much
Because these are societal behaviours. Jow Forums posters do exactly the same sort of "marginalising" if you want to call it that, just without an automated system.

>News sites
Not a great example to bring up with how awful the comment sections on those sites usually are.

>4 or 5 comments representative of the community
Those would just end up being from the same side.

Not enough quality images in here.

>Tired
How did the early night last night go?

>contribute to a private pension
No but I probably should, I'm eligible for a scheme.
Shall probably join it in the coming months.

>I'd be surprised if anyone hear has a real job
Welcome to /éire/ user.

>Politics pervades almost everything on reddit
I disagree. I'd be searching for a while to find discussion relating to Trump on the Zero Two fan subreddit.

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Jow Forums posts aren't hidden for being unpopular, they're right up there with every other post for all to see.

>it would lead to a shitload of piracy, and everyone who responded claiming that it's a good thing
Reddit was right, computer game piracy IS good. Same goes for all software in general

t. work in a software company

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That's not what a hivemind is though. You aren't banned on Reddit for having unpopular views, you just get a negative score beside your comment.
The comment hiding and how comments are sorted is entirely down to user preferences.

They don't have to be hidden on Reddit either, that's a user set preference.

>That's not what a hivemind is
>You aren't banned on Reddit for having unpopular views
You clearly don't know what a hivemind is yourself.

The set up of the site makes the most upvoted comments appear on the top though.

>Not a great example to bring up with how awful the comment sections on those sites usually are.
That's just people speaking. Most of it is garbage wherever it surfaces.

>Those would just end up being from the same side.
If there was unanimous agreement. If the community was split you would see both sides. Again if anyone doesn't like only hearing the popular voice they can just sort by New and scroll through the thousands of comments however they wish and form their own opinion.

>driving to work
>see some strange creature on an abortion referendum poster
>try to get a better look and almost crash into a pedestrian crossing
Stupid sexy fetus. I almost aborted some school children with my car.

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>if anyone doesn't like only hearing the popular voice they can just sort by New and scroll through the thousands of comments however they wish and form their own opinion
But most won't rendering it moot.

Tell me, is it a collective hivemind or do each of the 1.2 million subreddits have their own personal hivemind?

I'd imagine each one has their own with certain elements pervading over similar clusters of boards.

>But most won't rendering it moot.
That's because it's the choice of most people. What's the counter argument here, that they should be forced to read unpopular views against their wishes?

I think you're confusing a board culture with a hivemind.

I tried to ask you earlier, but all of the things you're saying, do you think that's what actually takes place? Do you honestly think reddit is conducive to a multi-sided discussion?

The two are related.

Is /éire/ a hivemind? We certainly have a culture here of accepting certain things and ridiculing others.

There's a difference between ridicule and censorship.

Downvoting is censorship?

>Is /éire/ a hivemind?
We're too small to be a hivemind.

>We certainly have a culture here of accepting certain things and ridiculing others.
Because many of our posters have similar views to begin with and agree with one another on those matters.

It literally hides your post.

>you can choose to see downvoted posts
You know that people don't do that and, even if they did, it would still hid them from newcomers.

Considering it blocks the post from being seen to the vast majority of readers, yes.

You're missing the point, we're arguing that the way the site is set up leads to this behaviour, not that reddit is a hivemind because it's enforced by their staff.

>Do you honestly think reddit is conducive to a multi-sided discussion?
As much as anywhere but it's very difficult to judge Reddit as a whole when the communities are so different from one another. I'm sure there are some very insular communities over there as there are here and I haven't spent a huge deal of time over there but from I've never had any problems when I have.
I would say that in any community where 95% believe one thing and you believe something in heavy contrast to it you're probably going to see some hostility unless you pick your words carefully and those who do most of their socialising on Jow Forums tend to post with sharp tongues that other communities aren't used to.

>It literally hides your post.
If you have that preference set. Otherwise it doesn't.

>Because many of our posters have similar views to begin with and agree with one another on those matters.
How is that different to Reddit? /éire/ has collective views and ridicules those that disagree. A subreddit has collective views and downvotes those that disagree.

>If you have that preference set
Which it does by default.

>How is that different to Reddit?
Because the post isn't hidden, are you even reading?

>If you have that preference set. Otherwise it doesn't.
It's the default preference.

>How is that different to Reddit?
Here they don't get hidden.

>pointing out that modern emulators are bad for some reason on a subreddit to dedicated to them
I'm not sure what you were expecting. Reddit in general isn't great for debate or allowing minority voices in a subreddit to flourish.
Has other things that work in its favour though. Every site has its pros and cons, I suppose.

>unless you pick your words carefully
Possibly some merit in that. I posted some anti-abortion comments on r/ireland wasn't downvoted to oblivion as I was careful with my words.
Am super smooth like that so I am.

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>>Do you honestly think reddit is conducive to a multi-sided discussion?
>As much as anywhere
It objectively isn't. On Reddit you just downvote opinions for not conforming to the hivemind, that can't happen on other websites.
It does by default, the vast majority of people who use that website probably aren't aware such a preference exists

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I've addressed that. It's human behaviour to mock or discredit those they disagree with, it happens on Jow Forums and everywhere.
Downvotes and the option to ignore is just a system of convenience for those that want it. Instead of responding "that's bullshit" you can just click a downvote and you've voiced your dissent in a cleaner and quicker way. It doesn't change behaviour.

>majority of people who use that website probably aren't aware such a preference exists
Would you really want such brainlets reading your posts though?

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/brit/ told me you are all communists

When are you going to save us from the American menace, comrade?

>Which it does by default.
It's very simple to change for anyone who doesn't want posts hidden.

>Here they don't get hidden.
Neither are they on Reddit unless the user wants them to be.

>It does by default, the vast majority of people who use that website probably aren't aware such a preference exists
By that logic the vast majority of Windows users should be using Internet Explorer. If people didn't like that setting most would change it. It's a simple click on preferences and on the first page, it's not hidden or difficult to understand.

you mean british menace

>Downvotes and the option to ignore is just a system of convenience for those that want it.
And apparently wanting it is the default setting.

>Instead of responding "that's bullshit" you can just click a downvote and you've voiced your dissent in a cleaner and quicker way.
In an unthinking and cowardly way. Why refute someone when you can just silence them, right?

>It doesn't change behaviour.
It does because it takes a voice away from one side of an argument. It also leads to the pathetic levels of false friendliness you see on reddit. People communicate on there in a way no human actually does in real life. Every posts ends with "but good post, though" or "nice thinking :)".

>unless the user wants them to be
What part of default aren't you getting?

>It's very simple to change for anyone who doesn't want posts hidden
And as we've said before, most people don't which makes the whole thing pointless. If you're going to continue repeating yourself and not bothering to digest the argument presented to you then I don't see the point in humouring you any further.

Why were you browsing their thread then?

>In an unthinking and cowardly way.
That's ridiculous. Strangers don't have a responsibility to listen or interact with you if they don't want to.

>Why refute someone when you can just silence them, right?
Downvoting doesn't silence anyone since hiding posts is optional.

>It also leads to the pathetic levels of false friendliness you see on reddit
If you've ever been on Facebook or in any sort of workplace chat group that's honestly how most normal people interact in trying to avoid insulting you or appearing critical.

>What part of default aren't you getting?
It's a preference. Preferences exist to be changed and often are. You can't claim an optional feature as a forced element of the site.

>Every posts ends with "but good post, though" or "nice thinking :)"
Don't we do that here?

>Downvoting doesn't silence anyone
At this point you've got to be doing it intentionally.

>Facebook or in any sort of workplace chat group
Which reddit isn't. There's a difference between how people who know eachother interact and how strangers trying to appear nice do.