1. Your country????

1. Your country????
2. Do you agree with this??

Canada
YES

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Gender is not a social construct

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Gender is what evolution did, not society

I still don't know if its bigoted to believe men and women are different and you can choose to be either or bigoted to believe they are equal and there are no differences between them other than one gives birth and the other doesnt

It is tho.
Think about it. So much of what it means to be a female/male in western culture, is imparted through media driven, social attitudes. You should really think before you make such an unintelligent post

Mexico
yes

I believe we should be able to decide what gender we put on our ID.

I also believe we should be able to decide what we put as our height, our eye color and our name.

Last, I believe I should choose what conditions I have on my driver's license. I never asked to wear glasses and I should not have to wear them to drive just because I was not privileged at birth.

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you are talking about gender roles, most of which have biological and evolutionary reason behind them, not gender.

Saying they are equal and have no differences is wrong. But saying they should be treated equal no matter their differences is right.

FUCKKKKK WRONG FILE THE PICTURE IS TOO SMALL PLEASE DONT INSULT ME ANYONE

>So much of what it means to be a female/male in western culture, is imparted through media driven, social attitudes.

>Western culture

You know, Western culture is the most liberal of all cultures on Earth.

You're retarded.

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No

Well is it really that much to ask, to not judge people on whether they want to be male, or female. Seriously, it doesn't fucking matter at all. You literally shouldn't get to judge whether someone wants to feel like a male or a female. Science has proven this time and time again, that this is completely natural. You literally CANNOT refute me on this one

"Shouldn't get to judge whether someone wants to feel like a male or a female"
I can and I will, but that doesn't mean i'm stopping you from chopping your dong off.

The fact that you would judge me for it, proves that ads like OP's are needed to counter idiots like you

Hell no

You can do whatever you want as long it doesn't affect other's in a negative way, and in fact homosexuality itself don't. The problem comes when you want to alter physics and biology with just words. Doesn't matter your sexual preferences when it comes to health, a doctor WILL have to take into account the sex you were born with because no matter how much you change you body, your body will stick to certain conditions that arguments won't solve.

>I also believe we should be able to decide what we put as our height
>Last, I believe I should choose what conditions I have on my driver's license. I never asked to wear glasses and I should not have to wear them to drive just because I was not privileged at birth.

Retarded as fuck. Do liberals ever think about consequences or they all are short-term minded naives?

People judge stuff they don't agree with, and I don't agree with your ideals.

Back to your containment board

How hard is it for people to understand the difference between gender and sex? It's two different things.

Do people actually believe this pseudo scientific nonsense, or do they just pretend to because they don't want to get yelled at?

How many times do I need to explain this ITT. GENDER IS A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT. Every legitimate scientific study backs it up. Im sorry if your feeble mind can't understand that

Gender is not the same as biological sex.
Gender is a cultural and social construct

self delusion isn't healthy. you sometimes have to accept the way you're born, least until somehow you could change such variables.

Do they not teach biology in Canada?

Preach

sex and gender aren't the same thing. you born with one of them, and you grow with another.

Gender is a person's state of mind and the social role they have in a society. That's why there's a condition called gender dysphoria. Biological sex is what's inbetween your legs.

sex is biological
gender is the social customs attached to sex
gender is a social construct, but so is most things in society and if your gender is in conflict with your sex it's usually because you're mentally addled.

Yes, and they also taught us that the gender you identify with (male/female) is not always aligned with your sex (penis/vagina)
Penis=/man
Vagina=/ woman

I will explain this to you, how do you know that cars, soldiers and blue color are for boys and princesses and pink color are for girls? that is the gender, is a social construct, pink color doesn't have a pussy and blue color doesn't have a dick.

they assign you one according to your sex but the reality is that it is misinterpreted that both are the same but it is not like that.

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cars and soldiers because men are militant and women are not

princesses because those are literally girls and being the prize of men in marriage is in harmony with the human sexual dynamic

colors are the gender construct, i love pink and purple

You can be a feminine man or a masculine woman, I don't care and I won't bother you. That doesn't mean a feminine man is a woman or a masculine woman is a man. Gender roles are a social construct, biological sex/gender is not.

*cringe

not an argument leafoid

the fact that men have to go to war and women have to stay to take care of children is another role imposed by the gender of past times.

i know girls that are interested in cars and soldiers and i know for sure they don't have a penis inbetween their legs.

im certain that has nothing to do with sexual dymorphism denser muscle mass, leg and hip shape, larger size, and typical mentality between the two sexes, as imposed by millions of years evolution

pic related you fucking cavedweller

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this is a gender reveal cake, when you cut it, inside it is blue or pink, depending on what sex the baby has, I mean, you do not exist yet but they already impose on you what things you will like and what things don't

(Also this is the most american thing I saw in my life, guns or glitter)

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name 1 (one) thing wrong with guns

also girls should e soft to the touch and smell nice, stop ruining all good things

I did not say that this was wrong, I just said that the guns and Americans get along

Boys and girls are biologically inclined to like or prefer certain things, so it's fair to make assumptions.

Of course not.

>you do not exist yet
I usally hate when people ask this on the internet but are you actually mentally retarded?

so when you're born, you already know by nature what color do you like.

are you an idiot? gender roles are not decided by averages, they're decided personally. if a girl wants to be interested in cars and guns and still identify as a "girl" then that's her choice. stop being so pedantic and let people have freedom over their life, it's theirs not yours.

His gender lives in the gallows

Only pic related is the ABSOLUTE truth

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I agree with it once I too can bend reality by claiming my head is where the absolute truth always is.

When i go to my genetics class during the day my professor teaches how behavioral differences between males and females like promiscuity arose from different reproductive strategies but when i'm on Jow Forums at night some turbo autist tells me that scientific studies prove that those differences are caused by the evil patriarcal media. I really dont know who to believe anymore.

society makes freedom for individuality, that's not a whole gender swap lmao

did you just apply facts to feelings-invested phenomenon? you fucking nazi.

>facts to feelings-invested phenomenon
What does that even mean?sorry english isnt my first language

Nevermind i get it now

>that's not a whole gender swap
It isn't, but if a girl likes to be into "boy things" and still be a girl, it's her choice. It's a non binary social construct that changes constantly over time, what was considered male back then is different to what is considered male today. Just because you're emotionally invested in the current version of this construct, doesn't mean all the others are invalid.

Exactly. A girl can be into masculine things and still be a girl so why is it necessary that we pretend that she is a boy?

>what was considered male back then is different
masculine*

Btw while some social norms may change over time a lot of what is considered masculine or feminine behavior is rooted in evolutionary biology and has been associated with males or females for millions of tears across a large portion of the animal kingdom. You shouldn’t just pretend that these things don’t exist because they might make a couple of outliers feel bad

You're making the mistake of mixing up sex and gender together. You're right, sex is fixed, you can either be female or male, but gender isn't. I'll give you another example, if a dude likes to wear skirts and put on makeup, and say he's a girl then he's a girl.

Gender is psychology, sex is more biological. I don't believe in this stuff thankfully, I am born male and think male, but some people are like this. You're just gonna have to accept that not all people fit into an either/or category, people are unique.

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I'd agree with that is twats didn't holler to the heavens every time a trans-"men" gives birth

No you are wrong. Some of the «psychological traits» that you claim to be a socially constructed phenomenon like for exemple males being more inclined to look for multiple sexual partners or acting in a more possessive manner towards their partners have evolved biologicaly because they offer males a better biological fitness and not females. They were thus selected in males more than in females through millions of years natural selection not social conditioning. Once again i am not claiming that there aren’t some caracteristics of male/female identity that are socially constructed but the main ones aren’t.

Define "biological fitness" please, I don't understand this term.
>through millions of years natural selection not social conditioning
I agree with you, but why do you think social conditioning can't be a part of natural selection?

Overall, we roughly have the same opinion, we just disagree on certain semantics.

Biological fitness might not even be the right term. Im from Québec and in french we call it «aptitude phénotypique» but i have heard the term fitness used in english before. It’s essentially just the ability of an individual to transmit his genotype to a large number of descendants so it takes into acount not only the number of children that you eill have but their ability to reproduce as well.

Ah alright, thank you for clarifying desu. I looked it up, it's really interesting and I can see how it's relevant to this but I personally don't think gender is genetic, more it's a product of the society and upbringing the child is in, sex is genetic though I fully agree.

And no i don’t think social conditioning can really be seen as a component of natural selection because it isn’t directly transmitted to your offspring at least not genetically. Then again my background is in genetics/molecular bio so i tend to focus only on that.

Alright well i have to go to sleep but i just think you should consider the fact that a lot of the things that you associate with gender and therfore separate completely from biology happen to coincide perfectly with observable biological differences between the sexes.

Slovenia
no