Russia stops being communist

>t. Homo Insipiens Mutticus

T-I-G-E-R-S???

>ck. Unfortunately they seem to consider violence and intrigue the only valid ways to get that.
The USA are doing precisely that. Ignore international law, bomb whoever they want, ignore WTO norms and regulations, etc etc etc
Also the states are really upset about losing their ideological war against the world.
lol.

The USA won though. And at least the countries they bomb are militant, autocratic shitholes to begin with, while you are deliberately promoting neofascists throughout Europe and otherwise undermine legitimate democracies just to make yourselves looks less bad by comparison.

>ukraine
>legitimate democracies

pick one

It is more so than Russia is.

you forgot to switch your proxy

The Maidan Coup was unconstitutional

That's what you say.
Regardless, it was more democratic than what's going on in Russia.

Kind of ironic to talk about ukraine and neofascism.

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because the US started being communist, in the worst sense of the term

can you please point out what is undeomcratic about Russia?

It boils down to
Russia: USA, get out of my sphere of influence
USA: What sphere of influence, lol? *proceeds to politically support rebels in Chechnya, arm Georgia against is separatist enclaves, expand NATO, help dismember yugoslavia*

>russia
>influence

nice1 pidorashka

Indeed.
Pictures like this - if they're real - certainly show them in very bad light, especially considering past crimes committed by ukrainian nationalists.

That doesn't however change the fact of the matter that the fight has been started and is continuously supported by Russian operatives, and that neofascist groupings in other european countries receive funds and support from Russia.

Geopolitics never change.

suppression of opposition media
suppression of political opposition
murder of journalists and opposition politicians
"unexplained" deaths in Russian prisons
140% election results

Russia should not have a sphere of influence, especially if it needs to use force to keep it.

Old cold war meme.
USSR collapsed, now it's USA's turn.

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This shit happens all over Eastern Europe, it is not something unique to Russia

Ok.

t. russian spy

> Russia should not have a sphere of influence
It should, for its own benefit. It outweights other concerns
And hey, it's not like Russia is unprofitable to do business with. When you get down to it, "teh western" encroaches never were economical in nature, but political. NGO, "opposition leaders" with western education/wifes, politically motivated sanctions that amount to blatant meddling in internal affairs - not economic overtake. That is more of the Chinese thing

> the fact of the matter that the fight has been started and is continuously supported by Russian operatives
Blatantly false
It can be easily shown, that things like
> street violence
> murder on the streets
> political repressions
> overtaking of goverment buildings
> raiding of police arsenals
> usage of army against protyesters
> bombardments and bombings
were all started by one side, namely collective "Maidan" (including ukrainian nationalists and goverment they put in power)
They drew the first blood

> 140% election results
Meme
or, more accurately
> mistake in election coverage that was elevated by hearsay into a meme about russian politics
that goes for meme-tier analisys like "10 mln votes must be fake because bell curves" as well

>It should, for its own benefit. It outweights other concerns
So you're saying Russia should have "sphere of influence" because it wants and it can get away with. Might makes right.
In that case don't be surprised if the nations that Russia wants to dominate will fight it with any means available and convenient.

>blatantly false
1. it's not maidan who started shooting into itself.
2. it's Russia who committed an act of aggression by seizing crimea and launching hostilities in doneck area

hello kamikadze. hows czechia

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They hacked literally everything you could imagine.

hello Nikulin, they let you access internet in Guantanamo?

>critizises Russia for preventing opposition
>automatically assumes that every American who opposes his government must be a Russian plant
wew lad

it's nice that volga germans are assimilating at least the stereotypical german autism.

ad hominem

> 1. it's not maidan who started shooting into itself.
a) it were people from maidan who started shooting at policemen . To the best of my knowledge, police never fired back, wasn't given weapons or authorization for doing so
b) organizers of maidan are literally responsible for the mass shooting which occured on the bloodiest day of the whole affair. You can easily find it by searching "maidan georgian snipers" - together, of course, with usual dismissals of those testimonies as russian propaganda
> 2. it's Russia who committed an act of aggression
Hmm? How is that answer to my points? I will restate it once again that every single elevation of hostilities came from the same side
And for your information, there was a literally a single incident with hostility during the proccess of Crimea secession and consequent reunification with russia
But before that, there was so-called "Kerch pogrom", where people from Crimea, who were in Kiev on "Anti-maidan" demonstrations were stopped in transit, beaten and abused. After that, measures were taken to prevent another similar incidents

There were also no hostilities in Donetsk area until mr Turchinov sent army, with tanks and aviation, to there.

> Might makes right
Such is the world. Mighty countries can make whatever claims they want and do things without regards to anything. In such a world, there is no reason to stick to "rules"
For example: if one country depelops economic ties with another, then third party organizes a coup there and reverses all the progress - what sit he worth of economy and diplomacy?
On a side note, of course Russia would like to bring prosperity and jolly economic cooperation to their allies and such. Alas, it can never do that to itself, and practice of last half a century shows that even direct economic subsidies do not do much

Because communism being the enemy was just an excuse

Russians didn't stop being imperialistic and paranoid.

>Russians didn't stop being imperialistic

So did the US

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Everything is not about economics. Jew.

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You mean the Russian snipers that murdered couple dozens of the protesters in hopes that it would scare the people into submission.
>occupation of krym was peaceful
Yes, because the Ukrainian army didn’t defend itself. Of course you would murder them all if they had. It’s a good thing for families if those involved it turned out this way but certainly not a valid defense of Russian invasion. Neither is the fact that Ukraine brought army in to keep Russia from seizing more.

>such is the world
In that case there’s no point in further discussion. You will never admit wrongdoings of your government because you will know it would hurt it’s cause.

>There were also no hostilities in Donetsk area until mr Turchinov sent army, with tanks and aviation, to there.

Is your argument really: "Well there was no fighting until the Ukrainians defended themselves from our invasion"? This has to be the most blatant nigger logic I've ever heard coming from a Russian.

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>There were also no hostilities in Donetsk area until mr Turchinov sent army, with tanks and aviation, to there.
And another Russian lie
youtube.com/watch?v=YQ4MJCRc9AA
youtube.com/watch?v=awBWyNj89qc
youtube.com/watch?v=cbsYACGpqQ8

Many ukrainian officers actually joined russian military

ideology doesn't change geo-politics interests

So American narrative of "Free Democracy vs Evil Commies" was dishonest?

>geo-politics interests
I not sure but this post look like russian stupid stereotype.

He's right though.

soviet russia - communism

United States policies are heavily influenced by a certain tribe that HATES Russia for some reason.
I really don't know much about Russian history other than Catherine the great had sex with a horse.

Right what? Russia's geopolitical interest in the sale of gas and oil, but the dumds russian did everything to expel them from this industry. So I do not see any interest in the confrontation between the United States and Russia.

geopolitics is not about selling stuff

Because ideology was just an excuse

Russia has no inherent claim on keeping the baltics/georgia in it's sphere of influence. If they want to join NATO, they are free to do so.

Russias influence is falling and they're reeeeeing that they can't dominate neighbouring states as much anymore. Fucking pathetic.

Economics drives every human interaction, including geopolitics.

Because the USSR not collapsed.

Here, even Russia does not exist:
un.org/en/sections/un-charter/chapter-v/index.html

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security is a more fundamental need than wealth

NATO wouldnt even exist anymore if the US kept its word

Now I am sure that you are Russian, only they can say such stupid things.

The discipline of economics is more than just money

On what promise?

>Geopolitics (from Greek γῆ gê "earth, land" and πολιτιkή politikḗ "politics") is the study of the effects of geography (human and physical) on politics and international relations.[1]
>At the level of international relations, geopolitics is a method of studying foreign policy to understand, explain and predict international political behavior through geographical variables. These include area studies, climate, topography, demography, natural resources, and applied science of the region being evaluated.[2]

>If they want to join NATO, they are free to do so.
You know... Putin was trying to do this in 2000's. Also people were talking about visa free... Stuff... With eu. Nothing of this happened. Russia is not free to join nato because nato was created as opposite side to russia

And how will you make security without a strong army? And a strong army needs money, a lot of money, dummy.

still, economy is not fundamental. It can only exist within the frame of a entity that guarantees stability through militaristic supermacy (monoploy of violence)

Right. So why can't the baltics join NATO?

Not really. War itself created money and central banking as we know it.

Yea, it's all a conspiracy, not because Russia did not want to reform army according to NATO standards

Cause Russians are more or less niggers, however since they have no white guilt or jew influence to make people look the other way to their savage nature, people can actually freely hate them for acting like niggers.

Compromising security to get more money to get a bigger army isn't really worth it.

War destroys wealth. There is an estimate that rebuilding of Syria will kost 400 billion $

>Compromising security
Where? Oh yes, for the Russians, if they cannot threaten the country with violence, then it is hostile country for them. The usual barbarians who got stuck in the last century and are not able to produce their own oil without the help of the West, but actively conflicts with it . This is called idiocracy.

>War destroys wealth
Depends. But not my point.

Again, economics is more than money.

Russia made the experience of getting invaded time after time from Europe, first Sweden during the Northen War, then Napoleon, then Hitler.
Naturally, they are incredibly vary of a new invasion from NATO forces, thus they are trying to create a buffer zone between themselves and NATO

Being friends would be nice. Unfortunately, it seems that they'd prefer to culturally regress into slavish authoritarianism and play cold war intrigue games instead.

And why in name of fuck NATO needs invaded Russia? Say again - this is idiocracy and russian just stupid retards, all fuckin nation.

Why did America need to invade Iraq?

Just answer the question instead of evading

because they presented no real military opposition and had oil and weren't using the us dollar, russia's safe.

Because Saddam was an idiot who wanted to war with the whole world and finally got it?

because Saddam Hussein was a psychotic lunatic who repeated tortured, murdered and gassed his own population
Russia is now in the process of propping up another example of such a man.

My answere is that America has a history of invading other nations. Russia has every reason to be vary of America and it's allies

Russia probably thinks it is better to be safe than sorry

Maybe Russia is afraid that America could suddenly start viewing Puting as an "idiot who wanted to war with the whole world and finally got it", or as a "psychotic lunatic who repeated tortured, murdered and gassed his own population".
Western media works in mysterious ways ;)

sott.net/article/371465-Declassified-US-documents-prove-Gorbachev-WAS-promised-no-eastward-NATO-expansion
The pretext was weapons of mass destruction (that were never found). By invading Iraq and Libya the US destabilized the entire ME and allowed ISIS to take hold

>Putin was trying to do this in 2000's
That is a lie. If anything, putin wanted to get special, preferential treatment.
Bullshit narrative of Russian victim complex that conveniently glosses over Russian own ambitions, like a murderous psychopath with his hands still bloodied requesting pity because it’s the society that made him that way.

You are right that in their imperial delusions Russia is trying to make a bunch of buffer states for itself. That is no reason why those states in question should be silent about it or obediently allow it to happen.
Same goes for disruptive activities in other countries. Is it, from a cynical. “Realistic” perspective, natural to pursue own interest with any means available? Yes. Should it be accepted as “morally right”? No. Should the recipients of such treatment be expected to roll over and submit without resistance? Absofuckinglutely not.

>arguing with nationalistic diaspora
why not just go argue with a wall? It would probably be more fruitful and intellectually fulfilling.

>all those wrong answers

Because the US is trying to keep Europe and Russia divided, retards. It was never about capitalism or anti-nazism, it was about not letting one European country unite the rest. Everything else around that is lies and propaganda

You should not accept it as morally right, but you should stop pretending that the west has a moral highround, and that america starts all the wars for humanitarian reasons

Putin doesn't need to gas Russians to get them to submit to him, most of them seem to do it willingly (aside from the odd murdered journalist/activist, of course).

>Be Russian
>block half of the internet to deny access to a furry im client

the diaspora is more intellectual than the rest of america

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What was the point of your post?

Now you're just seething

>european union exists
Are you a literal retard?

that explains why the post quality all over Jow Forums seemed to have improved over the past few days desu