Talk to germans

*cough cough*

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That's manstein being a coward. He had defied Hitler before and he could have again, as he was the superior to Paulus at the time. Can you blame Hitler for everyrhing that went wrong with the war,? yes, Should you? no

>mad only because hitler was stupid and inefficient
Why the fuck would anyone with half a brain trust some art school reject from a neighboring country to determine their national destiny?

I'm not saying we Japanese are not retarded for not backing down from China when the West imposed trade sanctions on us and doing random shit after losing Midway

They're mad cause they lost.

U.S intervention opened up the second front though. Battle for Britain was not a front, and if you think so you are a deluded anglo. Hitler actually avoided fighting on two fronts. He still wasn't a good general though.

this is dedicated to the poor german

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Us intervention only happened because of the battle for britain. Hitler failed to prevent a two front war. The condition for opening a European front for America was only after the strategic defeat of the japanese carrier force. Tunisian campaign happened soon after midway

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>Hitler failed to prevent a two front war.
This is true. I read the canucks post as implying that Hitler consciously started a two front war, which is false.Hitler did not start a two front war, he failed to stop the war escalating into a two front war. Because he was a poor statesman and a leader.

US intervention only happened because Soviets were already pushing in Eastern Europe and USA didn't want entire Europe to be under Soviet influence

Midway was like the only decisive international battle fought and won by the US, but not many Americans give a shit. They care more about Civil War battles like Gettysburg and Antietam or plowing through second rate Germans in the Ardennes with air superiority

he needed their oil you moron. Do you really think he invaded one of the superpowers of the time for some fucking farmlands?
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True but it was also because his generals were very afraid of him. I know people hate to talk about Rommel but all German generals learn in their school to act independently when required. Rommel did and was banished and he was a genius at the time. After the Blomberg fritsch affair the German generals pissed their pants everytime Hitler spoke

The Americans only won Midway because Japanese combat air patrol didn't have radar vectoring

In my school teachers said: Dont speak with germans about those times, it traumatize their psyche.

Nobody today cares

This was when operation Barbarossa had failed and the German army should have been retreating. Hitler ordered them to stand their ground because he was scared of losing his lebensraum. It didn't go well.

>They're mad cause they lost.

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Lol no. Us military wanted to invade Italy in 42 but Churchill and FDR would rather America engage axis elsewhere to tie them down
He wanted oil all the time but it was only after Moscow that he decided to concentrate a new offensive on the Caucasus
Because midway wasn't was cool as watching american marines fight through tiny islands in the pacific

>Nobody today cares
so could happens again

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as soon as the US is internally destablized the fun begins

We do care about the war and want to stay out of trouble (unlike France, UK and USA) but it's a meme that we feel personally responsible for the war or that we don't want to talk about it

Yes? okay. Then what do your teachers told you about those times? Was it something like: dark times for germans and Germany, mad evil Hitler forced us to do war. Or it was like: evil enemies invaded innocent Germany?

>Because midway wasn't was cool as watching american marines fight through tiny islands in the pacific

I bet most Americans think "Guadalcanal" is some Mexican resort

well he could have handled some things a little better.

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The first one, Germans were the bad guys. We didn't learn much about the actual war but more about the Holocaust but that might be different in other schools.

Probably
But it was in the tv show pacific and a level in cowadooty

I'm sure a 18-25 year old Canadian in 2018 would have done better than than the head of state of the main nation participating in the war in 1945.

O, we learned much about ww2. I read Guderian and Manstein's memoriez about that war.
You had very good army and soldiers.

>Us military wanted to invade Italy in 42 but Churchill and FDR would rather America engage axis elsewhere to tie them down
I think you mean France. He said we weren't ready/prepared and we should go after Europe soft underbelly (Italy). Anyways the real reason for our intervention is dip shit declared war on us after we declared it on Japan for Pearl Harbor.

Yes, I'm sure it will. We warriorz after all

>american guys invite foreign students
>"so user do you want juice?"
>"no i don't like juice"
>chuckles and spaghettis everywhere

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Us was going to fight Germany regardless of declaration. In 1940 there was already a plan to defeat Germany by 48 after japan. However developments on the Russian theater showed that the us must do something for the war to continue because if Hitler won he could dictate any terms to Europe as he wished. Japan declaring made declaring war on Germany much easier. Saved us the hassle of waiting when he did it first. For him he did it because he didn't want to repeat the sub fiasco of ww1 again and that's why american shipping was attacked immediately. Even if us population didn't think they were in it Germany did and that's all that matters..

In December 1941 Japan attacked the USA and Germany declared war on them.
This was happening while the battle of Moscow was still going on.

The German people I know just feel shame talking about the war.

When I visited Germany and got told about areas of towns bombed by my country I felt a bit awkward and shameful too. I can't feel proud about bombing civilians.

War isn't something to be proud of. Civilian always died, world war 2 just made it more obvious.

He was neither stupid nor inefficient, just evil and overambitious
Much of the memes about Hitler being a dumb retard comes from post-WW2 stories of former German commanders using him as a scapegoat for their own fuckups

100% this.

Why do germans love talking about world war 2? you guys need to move on.

kys

Juice is tasty

Most WWII Koowatitty games were about fighting Germans and for good reason. Many Germans had some other weapon than a bolt action rifle at their disposal.

It's mainly anglos who keep bringing it up.

well, your lifes aren't any better because of the war. so it makes sense.

it's not like french/UK colonialism

It's true tho, he was a micromanaging maniac, the economic system was a goddamn mess as well, not mention that saying that you'll kill/enslave all of the people you conquer is not really the best way to win any favors. It really is a miracle that they even made it as far as they did.

Imagine if Japan didn't chicken out fighting the Soviets after Khlakin Gol and opened up a Far Eastern front concurrently with Op. Barbarossa, No Gommies

Hokushin-ron got ditched too fast. It was so stupid. The navy should have never been allowed to wield so much power.

>Japan
>Invents one of the earliest radar aerials before the war
>Doesn't apply tech to their military
>Lose