>your country
>what is your opinion about china?
Germany
Very good. We had military advisors there before WW2 started, and to this day China and Germany share a tight network of mutual economic investment and development. China is viewed as a massive country with a rich history here, in fact many Germans would rather see China be the global hegemon than America, especially now that Trump has come to power.
Your country
Gabriel Murphy
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Noah Cruz
I didn't know about the military adviser stuff, but I also have a high opinion of China.
It is a great achievement how CPC managed to lift so many people out of absolute poverty, and I hope that they will manage to replicate that success in other countries with the One Belt One Road initiative.
Mason Foster
Hate them and love them.
Love them because they have such a strong interesting history and culture. Hate them because they are a massive shithole with almost no care for human life.
Bentley Rivera
>Hate them because they are a massive shithole with almost no care for human life.
Where does this meme that they don't care for human life come from? You realise that all these webms of road accidents that get posted here are simply caused by China's massive population? A webm of a horrific accident means nothing if we don't know how frequently accidents like that happen on a per capita basis.
Based on how they have been treating their rural farmers and citizenry, it seems that they have quite a high regard for human life.
Christian Rodriguez
I agree that their achievement has been massive, but to be fair the "New Silk Road" will mostly run through countries that are already fairly developed. It's not like they're building this in sub-saharan Africa or rural Brazil.
Gabriel James
I was thinking more about their government not giving a shit about their citizens rights treating them all like a cog in a machine.
That's not to say they have been doing marvelous things lately and trying to unfuck their shit, even if they just took a huge step back.
Lucas Ramirez
wh*Tes have zero regard for human life.
Dylan Garcia
>flag
>ambivalent
on one hand it's a fairly well developing country, if the statistics are to be trusted, that tries to present itself as technocratic, rational and long-term oriented, and aside from its communist past and present, it also has very rich history and cultural legacy.
On the other hand it's authoritarian state that struggles with corruption, pollution and numerous human rights issues. Especially the way it treats dissenters and seeks to control its society is disheartening and unattractive.
Camden Moore
A big problem of central Asian countries is being land-locked, thus it is very costly to import things there. If they get better infrastructure through the new silk-road, it will drastically decrease the prize for transportation and improve their quality of life a lot
Ryder Cruz
Diasporafag so
>Canada
Too many rich, corrupt ones that shit up my university and ruin the housing market. 3rd gen cantonese are alright and the ones descended from railroad workers (100k) are all pretty much entirely canadian much like the Japs who turn into hockey playing maple nips.
New chinese are way, way too insular and introverted and do not fit in with muh multicultalism
>Vietnam
Country is too pathetic to make friends, claims literally the entire coastline of Vietnam and an unimagineably shitty neighbor to have. e.g. they forced a Spanish oil company to stop drilling for oil with Vietnam because its in their "territorial waters" thousands of miles from their coastline and decided to enact a fishing ban off the coast of my grandma's home town again thousands of miles away.
Under the new government the country is slowly turning even more autistic, shitty and beta and becoming mini-Korea or mini-Japan full of hiveminds.
It could be worse, Vietnam is both and it has a rising undercurrent of european turbo-liberalism that will conflict with it, pic related is a pro-gay rights movie that topped the charts a few years back in Vietnam.
Jonathan Murphy
>south asia
Landon Fisher
What huge step back?
China’s economy today is booming relative to 2015 and pollution rates are down 40%.
Oliver Baker
If they do manage to chase the US juggernaut out of asia it will be interesting to see what they do about Indian, Vietnamese and Japanese resistance to their hegemony.
Dominic Sullivan
They literally see it as, China will produce for European buyers as the model. Make no mistake Hans, China is planning to take over your economy and exert "soft power" by pulling bullshit and making veiled threats.
The PRC literally threatens to fuck up the Mekong every so often and refuses to cooperate. It'd be like Romania pulling bullshit on the Danube except the Mekong is much more important for the region.
Ryder Gutierrez
Removing the term limit. Then again I guess having a term limit dosn't really matter when you can vote for a leader in the first place.
Nathaniel Butler
I know they want to do that, and we would do the same if we could. There is nothing wrong with economical competition. I just hope we manage to federalize as EU until then, so we can meet China at equal level
Jayden Bell
sugar daddy
america is even more ridiculous than vietnam desu
>supports vietnam claiming south china sea because fuck china
>forget that vietnam's claims clashes with thailand, malaysia, philippines and brunei
>all 4 flocks to china
Brayden Jackson
The CCP has no term limits. The most powerful position literally has no limit. Jiang Zemin, the de-jure ruler until 2002, held onto the CMC position until 2005 while cucking Hu Jintao.
The ban on permanent office was strengthened in return for removing the presidential term limit.
Very brainlet analysis. Nothing fundamental changed because of the amendment.
Kevin Lopez
>flag
>Good luck, we're behind 2000km of ocean
Ryder Harris
>wahhhh they use water on their rivers!
Should China just not use their rivers?
Oliver Sanchez
Shut the fuck up you malayshit chinkaspora, we have rightful claims according to UNCLOS.
China literally assumes the entire coastline is theres and buys out the shitty beta asian countries too pathetic to fight.
>Dams the upstream of a country
>Don't share data
>Country's coastline starts eroding and salinizing
Yes, sure, this is all fair competition. You can build dams without fucking up the environment and you can share data on river flow with your neighbors. China does neither and fucking builds a capacity to store it in case their southern neighbors get uppity.
Blake Bailey
>tfw you have no Manwan so you can't cruse around along the rivers china and pick up cute peasant women
John Russell
>Japanese resistance to their hegemony.
How exactly will Japan resist China, if it isn't even allowed to have a proper standing army?
Did you know that even in the anime industry more and more studios choose to make shows that appeal specifically to the tastes of the Chinese audience, not the Japanese one? Nips can't even resist Chinese cultural influence.
Adam Mitchell
>>we
>>flag
hrmm
Ethan Richardson
So China should have to use their own water based upon what foreigners tell them?
Levi Adams
>Nips can't even resist Chinese cultural influence.
Have they ever?
Daniel Green
It would help you to get your point across if you weren't so rude and nationalistic, especially when posting under the flag of a foreign country
John Foster
totalitarian shithole with no concept of human rights
Camden Smith
>posts map showing vietnam has zero UNCLOS rights over any spratley islands
>WE
Brayden Perry
>>Dams the upstream of a country
>>Don't share data
>>Country's coastline starts eroding and salinizing
>Yes, sure, this is all fair competition. You can build dams without fucking up the environment and you can share data on river flow with your neighbors. China does neither and fucking builds a capacity to store it in case their southern neighbors get uppity.
That's very interesting, thanks for sharing.
Parker Mitchell
China has more economic rights and economic freedoms than my country.
So what exactly do you mean by “human rights”?
Chinese added 40 years to their average lifespan in a few decades with no “human rights”.
Or maybe just maybe they have some human rights but less than Western liberal democracies.
Owen Murphy
Can someone explain to me why China using its own water and its own rivers in its own sovereign land is bad? Do other countries not do that?
Joshua Moore
I'm more canadianer than you Justin, this is just personal to me since China literally bans fishing off where my grandparents live thousands of miles away from China's coastlines and uses their navy to enforce it.
>Cooperating with other people is a bad thing
Every country shares data, every country except china is part of the Mekong River Commission. Countries share rivers and regulate it, China doesn't cooperate and thinks everything is their's.
Nah, just a bunch of "Malays" who are chinese diaspora yet hyper-nationalistic about China trying to re-write politics.
Dylan Adams
"Human rights" are a meme term used to by western-aligned "democracies" to spread their ideology. It is an empty word with no meaning by now, just like "racist" has become an empty word since it's being overused and applied to cases where racism isn't present. "Human rights" are just propaganda nowadays.
Even European countries like some of our eastern neighbours get accused of not respecting human rights, which is, of course, ridiculous.
Mason Hall
what i mean by human rights is HUMAN rights, not economic. seriously stop being a contrarian, everyone knows china does not set an example for the world when it comes to human rights. alone the system they want to imply that give 'good boy points' to their citizen if they behave like the goverment want them to is enough to place them in top 30 human rights abusers. they are only getting away with it because of their economic growth
William King
Except their water actually is their water.
Leo Barnes
haha fucking hilarious you complain about 'malayshi chinkspora' when you are fucking Vietnamese diaspora. two faced piece of shit.
fuck off you muh heritage faggot.
Jason Wright
i can't believe how clueless some of you fucks can be
Jace Howard
I don’t care.
China clearly has some human rights. You said they have none. You’re a fucking lying faggot.
Grayson Davis
The way I understand it is this:
>China controls the upstream of the river and is building a series of dams there
>They could potentially cut off the entire river from flowing into downstream countries if they so choose
That's a huge amount of pressure potential that can be used to unfairly coerce a government into cooperation. Egypt and Sudan had similar disputes over the flow and development of the Nile, as most of Egypt's agriculture is centered in the Nile's basin. If a downstream country just cuts off the water supply of a downstream country, or somehow manipulates the water with chemicals or otherwise, this can have disastrous consequences for the people living there.
Carson Clark
>behaving like an autistic country
>not even forgetting they invaded Tibet to literally control waters and riverways
China is a menace, their leaders are autistic and shit.
>Vietnam has already resolved its dispute with SEA countries
>China meanwhile still enforces a retarded muh coastline policy
This is why China has no friends except North Korea and Pol Pot in the past. They can't make friends with reasonable people.
Hunter Turner
no concept of human rights =/= no human rights. go back to china if you love it so much zhang
Tyler Evans
>ad hominem
Sorry that facts hurt your feelings
Nicholas Thomas
Where were the human rights in Guantanamo? Where were they in Iraq? Where were they in Belgrade, in Mali? Where are they in Donbass, Syria?
In what way exactly does China, or in fact any other country, lag behind western democracies when it comes to the respect of "human rights"?
It's an empty term that is used to justify western ideology, just like the right and freedom of the workers and farmers was the basis to justify communism.
Sebastian Ramirez
>Vietnam has already resolved its dispute with SEA countries
Source? Because the Vietnamese government’s official website disagrees.
Justin Harris
What's your point mate? I'd still defend Canada and not sell out the country and start taking bribes directly from the CCP like you and Gregor Robertson lmao.
China's already started pulling their bullshit and declaring they will change the Arctic status quo and doing the same shit they are doing in the south china sea over here.
Jose Ward
>you are against china so that means you're pro-usa hurr durr
dumb fuck do your country a favour and drink bleach
Luis Kelly
>Nips can't even resist Chinese cultural influence.
Okay children, in today's class we learn another 300 Chinese cavemen emojis
Justin Wright
>>Vietnam has already resolved its dispute with SEA countries
I live here, you fucking leaf
Talks collapsed, they infringe on the Philippines' seas
Also, this line
>The submission of Vietnam and Malaysia, even without objection, won’t be heard until 2035.
Isaac Perez
isn't it obvious with what i said? you're a two faced piece of shit. you bitch about diaspora when you are diaspora.
Jack Morgan
I doubt you could read their website chang.
Leo Evans
Yeah why does that contradict then mate? I support Canada and Vietnam, but not shilling for one country over the other.
Landon Bell
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Joshua Brown
>dumb fuck do your country a favour and drink bleach
And you're a two faced retard with double standarts. Did the Dutch blue-helmets respect human rights in the Balkan wars? Hmmm? Yet no one cares.
Nobody gives a shit about a fucking piece of paper called the declaration of human rights. It's meaningless, stop whining about it.
Adam Lopez
do you not see the hypocrisy in complaining about someone else being diaspora while at the same time being diaspora?
>>mate
wow, even with the cultural appropriation.
the boat people were a mistake.
Nathaniel Bell
>you are against china so that means you're pro-x country hurr durr
the bleach is getting cold hans
Matthew Gray
I see that you are missing a certain ASEAN country east of Vietnam...
Dominic Russell
Why are you fucking twisting things around?
You point out that China has human rights issues.
I point out that most other countries do too.
By that I imply that the "declaration of human rights" is meaningless and a mere propaganda tool. I do NOT imply that you're pro-X country.
Do they not teach you fucking reading comprehension up north? How about you follow your own advice and go buy some bleach at the nearest industrial supplier? Jesus fucking Christ.
Gavin Moore
>bribes a drug-addicted retard to do their bidding
>bitches about shit
>cultural appropriation
mate i've literally worked in the federal government, awful pay but I was proud of doing environment-related stuff then.
i don't see why feeling and having ties to two countries is hypocrisy. i don't care if the other guy does too, and i'm not criticising him for it.
Josiah Cook
>when you point out china has human rights issues you imply that other countries don't
hans pls, just a sip! make your country proud
Dominic Reyes
if you weren't criticizing him for being diaspora, then why mention it at all? what's with this coy shit? just admit you are being a fucking hypocrite and end it retard.
>>mate
nobody but larping brit/aus fags use mate in canada. fuck off.
Aiden Baker
ah, the familiar tune of moral relativism. Obviously any criticism is invalid because everything is equally bad everywhere and everyone is out for themselves.
That's the good thing about not having any offspring, you don't have to worry about the state of the world you're bringing them into and can shit it up with abandon.
Cooper Robinson
i use it day to day life you fucking autist and have used it before i went on this board.
i don't care what fucking /general/ claims it lmao.
Jaxon Bell
the boat people really were a mistake, should've just put mines on the entire western coast.
John Cook
shithole
Jaxon Bennett
UK
Meh. I've met lots of nice Chinese people and they've got lots of cool food/culture but their government is creepy and some of them live/work in absolutely appalling conditions.
Nathaniel Russell
CAUTION. THE OP IS A RUSSIAN DIASPORA WHOSE PARENTS FLED THAT SHITHOLE IN THE 90s AND RUN A RESTAURANT IN STUTTGART. HE SPENDS 16 HOURS A DAY EVERY DAY SPAMMING ANTI-WEST PROPAGANDA. DO NOT REPLY TO HIM IN A SERIOUS CAPACITY.
Joseph Clark
I'm shocked...
Germans love China (´･ω･`)
China invade our national airspace and territorial sea every day
Tyler Morris
It's easy to love something when you have 6000 miles of distance between you and them. There seems to be a correlation between geographical proximity to China and strong dislike of China.
Cooper Rodriguez
US
I like then and wish them well. It will be nice for America to have competition and for a new multipolar world to arise.
Parker Powell
US
Fuck China. I can't wait for their economy to collapse under its own weight.
Gavin Thompson
yep. it's true.
Hudson Myers
I love China like most of my fellow countrymen.
Hunter Allen
Jonathan Ross
China is an absolute dumpster fire of a nation. The amount of utter cultural destruction and loss of life set forth by the CCP is just mind boggling. It's basically a nation of a billion insects assimilating everything in their path with absolutely no regard for human life. Even the Soviet Union while communistic had some soul to it, you could tell they were human, but China? Soulless people.
Tyler Martinez
>thailand, malaysia, philippines and brunei
because those 4 are weak as fuck and wouldn't conceivably be a real ally anyway
Bentley Brooks
Also there are other "communist" nations like Vietnam where the people actually have souls. You'll be hard pressed to find videos of escalators collapsing in Vietnam with people around having absolutely no reaction or peasant women giving birth on the streets and just chucking the baby into the gutter. I don't know how to explain it but there's something seriously wrong with mainland Chinese people.
Jaxson Gutierrez
Be that as it may, Mao went much further in eradicating China's traditional culture than was the case in the Soviet Union, where after some early efforts in the 1920s, the CPSU largely co-opted Russian nationalism.
In China, all traditional literature and art was banned for a decade. Nothing but propaganda works praising Mao and the revolution were permitted. The devastation was enormous and China has never really recovered from it.
Oliver Thomas
maybe good
because they shot democrats.
japanese democrats are bad people
Isaac Carter
The bigger China gets the better.
t. Thucydides
Jeremiah Roberts
It's far shittier now than in the 1970s when they still had some kind of idealism about the revolution and all that. Since the 90s, the CCP cynically decided to just get rich as all fuck by using their vast slave population to produce sneakers and Barbie dolls.
Nolan Price
Vietnamese are much better diaspora than Chinese from any region
by the way if you were not born in china then you are not Chinese, not in the slightest. go ask anyone from the mainland, you're just another brown monkey to them
Adam Richardson
>literally going around the world to steal other countries' fish because they exhausted their own waters
Aiden Green
Ivan your proxy is too obvious at this point
Jacob Walker
Very sad stuff. The world of difference between Taiwan, Hong Kong and Mainland China is just unreal. Same goes for Chinese Americans or Canadians. Can mainland CHinese ever be saved?
Logan James
Honestly, at this point China is pretty much the only hope for North American infrastructure to modernize some day.
Sebastian Wilson
Most Vietnamese diaspora were people from the South who fled communism though, so it was mainly middle class and not uneducated peasants who'd never used indoor plumbing.
Chase Price
People in Taiwan and Hong Kong hate mainlanders anyway and don't consider them to even be the same race. In any case, Taiwan really has more cultural commonality with South Korea and Japan than it does mainland China.
Matthew Davis
Again, a couple of webms of accidents or crime happening are in no way representative of a nation of almost 1.4 billion people. It just doesn't work that way.
Brody Jones
>Most Vietnamese diaspora were people from the South who fled communism though
Maybe in your part of the world, but certainly not here. East Germany imported thousands of communist Vietnamese workers to work in factories. The Czech Republic has a massive Vietnamese diaspora to this day, to a lesser degree other post-commie countries like Slovakia and Poland do as well.
Luis Hall
You would rather be ordered by Hans (Chinese version) rather than Hans (German version)?
Ian Hernandez
>high educational merits
>minor role in international affairs/politics
>logical reproduction quota to stabilize age disparity
>no-nonsense but sensible trading/business partners for mutual benefits, even if you're ISIS
>government is heavily invested in AI to help recess or wipe out h*Manoid existence completely
good country
William Taylor
>You would rather be ordered by Hans (Chinese version) rather than Hans (German version)?
Brody Torres
I'll put it this way. We have them ringed with military installations for a reason.
Robert Edwards
We don't recognize the PRC and we only recognize Taiwan, how fucked are we?
Brandon Garcia
Daily reminder not to reply to Volga German threads.
Christian Hughes
>Paraguay
literally who
Hudson Ramirez
>I was thinking more about their government not giving a shit about their citizens rights treating them all like a cog in a machine.
Let me ask you this: does India value human rights more by letting its population stay in poverty for longer?
Blake Williams
>China has more economic rights and economic freedoms than my country.
All possibility of rational discussion ended here.
Angel Cox
>China has more economic rights and economic freedoms than my country.
no they don't you dumb neet abc
t. normal abc